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We seem to get no respect from these refs. Here are some horrible calls that I saw tonight.

Bohannon slipped on his own and slid on the floor. It should have been a walk. Instead a late whistle said he got hit and made 2 foul shots in a 1 and 1.

Basket interference was claimed on Johnson and we lost 2 points off the board. It was not interference.

Early in the game Mathis drove and got sandwiched & mugged by two guys. No call for 2 foul shots.

Kiss got hit really bad trying a three with no call. Pathetic.

Mathis got grabbed on a breakaway with no play on the ball and the refs said it was a normal foul. we should have has 2 shots and the ball.

These things keep happening in our games. I just think the refs subconsciously give the top teams in the league the benefit of the doubt. No respect at all for us.

I only listed those from right off the top of my head. There were probably even more.
 
In bounds pass late. Iowa player pushed Eugene almost to the basket. Last time I checked can’t just push your way past defenders to try to get open. Amazed that whistles were in pockets.......again!
 
They were awful tonight, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt cause I know it is a thought job, but it was bad. The reviews and random ticky-tac calls ruined any rythym to the 2nd half
 
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Big 10 refs will side with the Big 10 "bluebloods" on debatable calls for sure.

The 2 worst refs in the Big 10: The midget tonight (Young Joe Pesci with hair lookalike) and Courtney Greene (who is also anti RU).

Most of the calls above were Pesci's calls who after McCaffrey went apeshit on him 2 minutes into the game - every debatable call by him went against us.

Pike needs to get in the faces of the refs..granted he's been better at it as of late...but he needs to get a T and go apeshit himself to make a point.
 
There was one call on Geo in the last 4 or 5 minutes that was a "nickle dimer." That was the only ticky tack call all night. They were hitting each other hard with no call but then they decide to give Geo a call for nothing. Very inconsistent.
 
Big 10 refs will side with the Big 10 "bluebloods" on debatable calls for sure.

The 2 worst refs in the Big 10: The midget tonight (Young Joe Pesci with hair lookalike) and Courtney Greene (who is also anti RU).

Most of the calls above were Pesci's calls who after McCaffrey went apeshit on him 2 minutes into the game - every debatable call by him went against us.

Pike needs to get in the faces of the refs..granted he's been better at it as of late...but he needs to get a T and go apeshit himself to make a point.
I have been saying that all year he needs to get a technical or he will never get any calls. I think last game the announcers said he has never gotten a technical in Big Ten league play
 
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We seem to get no respect from these refs. Here are some horrible calls that I saw tonight.

Bohannon slipped on his own and slid on the floor. It should have been a walk. Instead a late whistle said he got hit and made 2 foul shots in a 1 and 1.

Basket interference was claimed on Johnson and we lost 2 points off the board. It was not interference.

Early in the game Mathis drove and got sandwiched & mugged by two guys. No call for 2 foul shots.

Kiss got hit really bad trying a three with no call. Pathetic.

Mathis got grabbed on a breakaway with no play on the ball and the refs said it was a normal foul. we should have has 2 shots and the ball.

These things keep happening in our games. I just think the refs subconsciously give the top teams in the league the benefit of the doubt. No respect at all for us.

I only listed those from right off the top of my head. There were probably even more.
Watched the DVR replay of the game (had to get it out of my system). Bohannan didn't trip on his own. It was a trip by McConnell so they did get that one right at least. The slapping the backboard after the dunk by the Iowa player with no T sticks in my craw because those are obvious and Eugene just called for it last week.
 
We seem to get no respect from these refs. Here are some horrible calls that I saw tonight.

Bohannon slipped on his own and slid on the floor. It should have been a walk. Instead a late whistle said he got hit and made 2 foul shots in a 1 and 1.

Basket interference was claimed on Johnson and we lost 2 points off the board. It was not interference.

Early in the game Mathis drove and got sandwiched & mugged by two guys. No call for 2 foul shots.

Kiss got hit really bad trying a three with no call. Pathetic.

Mathis got grabbed on a breakaway with no play on the ball and the refs said it was a normal foul. we should have has 2 shots and the ball.

These things keep happening in our games. I just think the refs subconsciously give the top teams in the league the benefit of the doubt. No respect at all for us.

I only listed those from right off the top of my head. There were probably even more.

So many bad calls, but taking away Johnson’s put back late on a bogus goaltending call was a back breaker. They can review when a player’s foot is on the line for a three pointer they should be able to review goaltending especially when it’s so important
 
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There had to be at least 3 or 4 times Mathis took the ball to the basket with a ton of contact....not one call.
When you're attacking the basket in out of control fashion like Montez does A LOT you're just not going to get rewarded a lot of times. Not sure if he got hosed or not tonight. Hard to really tell.
 
The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.
 
Just assuming you are right, lets say the team wins a couple more games. This one and one more. It’s still basically a .500 team.

Long way to go.
 
Even if all fouls and no-calls even out in a game like this, waving off a legal tip-in and calling it goaltending is just unconscionable.

RU clearly got hosed on that call. Could have been the difference in the game.
 
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Even if all fouls and no-calls even out in a game like this, waving off a legal tip-in and calling it goaltending is just unconscionable.

RU clearly got hosed on that call. Could have been the difference in the game.

Thought the offensive goal tending call was the worst of the game too.

Whether the reach by Bohannon was flagrant IMO was 50/50 but you would like that call at home.

The comment that Bohannon wasn't fouled was silly----McConnell tripped him.

Mathis is athletic and hard nosed but he has a long way to go as a basketball player. Just forces things way too much------hopefully he learns patience.

Losing on a throw like that at the horn is terrible----feel bad for the players but no one feels sorry for you on the other teams so have to regroup and get ready for Sparty.
 
The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.
Neither of your examples are accurate takes on those plays. The hit to the Iowa players face was completely unintentional, and the charge Omoruyi drew inside the three point line was 100% legit when Bohannon plowed into him. I don’t recall any other charge so you must mean that one.
 
Thought the offensive goal tending call was the worst of the game too.

Whether the reach by Bohannon was flagrant IMO was 50/50 but you would like that call at home.

The comment that Bohannon wasn't fouled was silly----McConnell tripped him.

Mathis is athletic and hard nosed but he has a long way to go as a basketball player. Just forces things way too much------hopefully he learns patience.

Losing on a throw like that at the horn is terrible----feel bad for the players but no one feels sorry for you on the other teams so have to regroup and get ready for Sparty.
Well balanced response to officiating calls. Rutgers didn't lose the game because of referee calls or poor foul shooting.They loss because they failed to defend Hail Mary pass with 3 seconds remaining.One play was the difference and Rutgers had opportunities during the play to stop the shot from being taken.
 
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The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.
Having seen the TV replay, I am surprised that a Flagrant wasn't called on Johnson when he whacked the guy in the face. More often than not these days refs would seem to call that even if you want to claim that Johnson had no idea the guy was there. Iowa already fouled on the play so Iowa was going to the line but they would've retained possession. RU got a break.

If they called a Flagrant on Bohannan for "grabbing" Mathis on that breakaway there could be several like that made every game which would not be right. Not in RU's favor but definitely the right call.

Bohannon's charge on Omoruyi near half court was 100% a charge. Omouruyi picks up at least two charges a game and replay also confirmed what I saw in person that it was a charge and not a laughable flop. So views of refs calls can be one-sided both ways. Correct call.

No excuse for no T for slapping the backboard after a dunk by Iowa in front of 8,000 people. If they don't enforce it that's one thing but they just nailed us with one last week. You'll excuse us if you think this is just sour grapes when these types of things completely comparable never go our way in this league.

Bohannan was literally pushing his defender all night to get free and going around a ton of absurd moving screens and I don't think Iowa got called for one moving screen. Given the emphasis that's been placed on that all season, that's not possible. Not sure if you're watching on TV or in person, but these are the kinds of things that you can see in person that you can't necessarily see well on TV nor can the announcers from their perch in the RAC.

Sure, there's a bit of sour grapes going on. That's what all fans do. What I see in person with my own two eyes and what I see on TV replay are often completely different - but having been in this conference for a few years, the fact is that we never get a positive whistle overall and when it's close like the goaltending call against Johnson they almost always seem to go against us and with the bluebloods with winning traditions.
 
Biggest gripe I would have about the officiating was a lack of consistency. They were letting them play, which allowed us to play a pretty aggressive brand of defense in the first half. McCaffrey starts working them and things start to change. Yes they missed an obvious push on Caleb and the goal tending call was close, but incorrect, but that is not in my opinion, why we lost this game. The guy made a prayer of a shot at the end. If want to dissect every thing that came before it to figure out where another couple of points could have come from, then certainly you don't want Pike getting a T, which was almost automatic with Bohannon on the line.
 
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Maybe McConnell did trip up Bohannon but in person I didn't notice that. The hitting the backboard was a joke as well as all of the moving screens and Bohannon pushing off several times. Even the announcers once again claimed RU gets very few calls. I feel horrible for the coaches and our players who played their butts off. McCafferty was crying all night as he usually does. Don't get me wrong Iowa is very good but they definitely got some away from home cooking. Pikiell does cry like that. The last play was beyond luck but it happened.
 
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The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.
Yes because you were able to see on video evidence that the calls you are talking about were difinitively flat out wrong, without question, like how the refs said the ball was on the rim for Johnson and didn't count it when on TV it was clear to anyone with half a cup of brain matter in their head that it was clear of the rim. Shhhhhh and just accept your gift horse because you're ranked.

You just played a team where we play only freshmen and sophs about 85% of the time, with the vast majority being freshmen. We will be back.
 
The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.

You could have just taken the win and shut the f up. No, you come on our website and try to rub it in with your bullish?t.

Congratulations, Iowa is a B1G blue blood and you played us which means you will get some calls and we won’t. After the under 12 timeout, you guys got a bunch of calls and we didn’t.

Nothing worse than a cry baby after their team wins.
 
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We got hosed on many calls

The little ref that called the offensive goaltending WAS NOT IN POSITION to make that call. The other ref that was in position, saw it correctly as a good basket and didn’t blow his whistle.

The horrible calls all started right after the under 12 minute timeout in the second half. I thought that game was called very well until then.

We absolutely got hosed. Those calls/non-calls equates to a bunch of points for them/less points for us. It is tiring to play so well against a really good team and have to also overcome the refs.
 
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Iowa fans especially on their board seem to be smug a holes . Ripping on jersey and still saying we don’t belong in big ten . I informed that our b-ball team is on rise and yes our football team does suck but mainly because our coach is from Iowa
 
The little ref that called the offensive goaltending WAS NOT IN POSITION to make that call. The other ref that was in position, saw it correctly as a good basket and didn’t blow his whistle.

The hiding on the calls all started right after the under 12 minute timeout in the second half. I thought that game was called very well until then.

We absolutely got hosed. Those calls/non-calls equates to a bunch of points for them/less points for us. It is tiring to play so well against a really good team and have to also overcome the refs.
Maddening that the refs wouldn't get together to discuss it and I can't understand why that call isn't reviewable - it's not a subjective rule and there's minimal impact to the flow of the game - if it's called, the play is stopped anyway. If it isn't called but should have been, at least it's still a made basket and an inbounds play and you're not interrupting a break with replay. Seems like it should be a reviewable call.
 
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Early on, Geo should have been shooting two free throws after a blocking foul on Iowa, but they ruled it wasn't a shooting foul.

The refs were horseshhitt all night
Especially the one with black hair
 
Iowa fans especially on their board seem to be smug a holes . Ripping on jersey and still saying we don’t belong in big ten . I informed that our b-ball team is on rise and yes our football team does suck but mainly because our coach is from Iowa

You would think Iowa would have mostly classy fans, but I've learned that they are hated by many B1G fanbases .
 
Reffing a fast-moving basketball game is not easy. There are a lot of things to watch, on and off the ball. So refs are going to miss some calls, or call some incorrectly. Better refs are going to make fewer errors and inferior refs are going to make more errors. Even if the Big Ten uses the creme de la creme, some are still going to be better than others. The Big Ten, like all conferences, reviews refs, so they should know which refs are better than others.

I'm not sure how the Big Ten assigns refs to games, but assuming it is not random or just based on availability, then ref rankings probably are part of the decision. If that's the case, then the best refs would get assigned to the most important and most meaningful games. And as much as Rutgers fans don't want to hear it, games with a team expected to finish in the conference basement aren't expected to be meaningful or important.

So it might not be that refs are out to stick it to Rutgers, but instead that Rutgers games include more inferior refs who are likely to make more mistakes.
 
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Reffing a fast-moving basketball game is not easy. There are a lot of things to watch, on and off the ball. So refs are going to miss some calls, or call some incorrectly. Better refs are going to make fewer errors and inferior refs are going to make more errors. Even if the Big Ten uses the creme de la creme, some are still going to be better than others. The Big Ten, like all conferences, reviews refs, so they should know which refs are better than others.

I'm not sure how the Big Ten assigns refs to games, but assuming it is not random or just based on availability, then ref rankings probably are part of the decision. If that's the case, then the best refs would get assigned to the most important and most meaningful games. And as much as Rutgers fans don't want to hear it, games with a team expected to finish in the conference basement aren't expected to be meaningful or important.

So it might not be that refs are out to stick it to Rutgers, but instead that Rutgers games include more inferior refs who are likely to make more mistakes.

The issue is when reviewing their calls last night, Rutgers got hosed on the majority of the whistles
 
And I'm suggesting that it is because the refs (especially the one dark-haired ref) were just prone to making more mistakes.

Wouldn't the calls balance out then?

Any officials on this board?
Should a trailing official make a goaltending call from beyond the 3-point line?

Or should the official on the baseline make that call?

The officiating was gross last night.
 
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Wouldn't the calls balance out then?
Not necessarily. An inferior ref will see that something happened, but because he missed part of what happened, he needs to make assumptions to fill in the blanks on the play. Those assumptions are usually going to benefit the better team.

But sometimes the assumptions benefit us. I think one of the reasons EO gets so many charge calls is because he gets so many charge calls. A ref sees the contact, but isn't quite sure if EO was in position, but the ref gives EO the benefit of the doubt and calls a charge instead of a block because the ref knows that EO is really good at getting into position to take charges.
 
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They r a bunch of losers . Calling our program and Harper classless . Also calling us thugs for our tough d
Their bigs were shoving through the backs of our guys under the basket all night along with the moving screens. If you’re going to allow for a physical game, then to quote Al Czervik from Caddyshack, “keep it fair.” I even commented to a buddy at the game that it was a fairly clean game in terms of officiating at half. The second half, not so much. I’ve given up on expecting a fair shake from the officials in this league. Every single game, there is something egregious against RU. Last night’s “goaltend” and the “common” foul were it.

Our guys fought their tails off for 40 mins in what was an instant classic. The bottom line is this, even 5 on 8 for long stretches in 2H, we went toe to toe with a B1G power. Unlike in past years, we’ll be better for this. If we hit our FTs and Iowa doesn’t hit a near-physically impossible shot, we’re all on cloud 9.
 
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The refs were bad both ways. In particular, the no call on the flagrant foul (that should have been) in the 2H was ridiculous, and there was a laughably terrible flop that one of your post players drew an offensive foul on around half court. Aside from that, Rutgers was mugging Iowa’s ballhandlers and cutters all night with near impunity. To claim that the refs were one-sided in favor of Iowa is laughably inaccurate and simply sour grapes.

Dude...I sit in the second row...and I can tell you point blank that Iowa
Ballhandlera we’re doing anything but getting mugged. In anything, the off arms pushes
To create spaces that weren’t called 5-7 times in the second half that created offensive space for flow that created a shot

The game should be sent to the league for review...I am telling you point blank that Iowa was plus 10 to plus 15 in calls
 
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