The Big Ten says top-ranked Oregon has clinched a spot in the conference championship game
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Its kind of bad though having one big group with the potential for so many tiebreakers needed. Divisions would reduce the need for arbitrary tiebreakers somewhat
The Big Ten announced Tuesday that after extensive evaluation, there were “no conditions whereby the Ducks do not finish No. 1 or No. 2” in the conference.
Thank you,
here's an article from Oregonlive that puts the Ducks in that position
Why hasn’t Oregon football clinched a Big Ten championship game appearance yet?
While it seemed on the surface like Oregon punched its ticket to Indianapolis on Saturday, the reality is much more complicated.
So we can see that weak ass West setup again. The East was LOADED and some West Scrub team would get their clocks cleaned in the B1G championship game. The West never won one of those championship games. That was a complete joke.
And let's be honest, the 12-team Playoff is all that matters from here forward. Don't know how many people will care about the B1G champion like they use to
I was thinking maybe they should scrap the Championship Game. Would suck for the loser to be kicked out of the playoffs.
I was thinking this could become a major issue for the CFP model.
They should lock the field before conference championships.
If a team is in the playoff bracket before championships they should only be knocked out if they are playing against another team and it’s known only 1 of those 2 teams will get a spot.
You shouldn’t lose a spot to an idle team if you lose a championship game. Should be a rule
How do you lock the field when all the AQ teams aren't set?
Suppose Miami loses the ACC championship game to a non CFP team?
The ACC winner gets into the CFP by rule (if they are one of the top 5 conference champs).
It is almost to a point where conference championship games should be tossed in favor of the expanded playoffs. Declare an in-season champion by record and ranking and be done with it. The trophy is the same either way.
heck.. give everyone a 13th game instead. More legit OOC games early season.
I think the playoffs will get expanded, especially if the SEC or B10 start squawking that teams they deem worthy are left out.
IIRC a 14 team playoff is already written into the ESPN deal.
Conference championships wont go anywhere because money or they would have to find a suitable alternative to generating that money lost.
Then it would have to be stated before that game kicks that the winner of the game is in and the loser is out. Not sure of another fair way to do it.
There was a story today where Lane Kiffin said there are SEC coaches he thinks don't want to be in the conference title game because the loser could miss out on the playoffs.
Yea posted that in the games thread but don’t think it will happen unless they find an alternative to make up the lost revenue.
It’s more likely they might expand the playoffs to 14 to make sure their teams get in. Autobids per conference where the B10/SEC get more than the ACC/B12 might come into play too.
This is the way it will go. Now that 12 teams qualify there is no need for a conference championship game. B1G and SEC will have years where they get 4-5 teams in the playoffs. 2 teams playing in championship game will be at a significant disadvantage.
With The playoffs going to 12 teams, I think the top two big ten teams will always get in, and probably more teams
That's not fair at all though.
Suppose Miami still has a Top 12 resume.
The #1 seed loses to the #20 ranked team in the conference championship and they get bumped out of the entire playoffs?
You can't set the field or put stipulations with games still to be played.
The fair way to do it is play all the games and then determine the field.
Not complicated.
That should usually be the case, same for the SEC. The logjam in the SEC is what's causing some consternation. Maybe they should play 9 games instead of 8 and get rid of 1 of the 2 cupcakes most of them play. It might help break that logjam.
Part of the reason for scrapping divisions was to avoid some crazy upset scenario by a weaker division and steal a spot from a more deserving team. The expectation they have is that both teams in the conference championship game in the P2 should get in. We'll see if that's the case this year but really it's only something you can determine after observing for some time.
We all know money drives everything and the champ games are also written into the tv deals so it's not so easy to just rid of them, at least until the contract comes up for renewal. Even at that time, what replaces the lost revenue especially at a time where schools paying players is about to start and they'll want more revenue sources not less.
Expanding a playoff to 14 (already in the ESPN deal) or 16 can bring new revenue but would they take that as a replacement for lost revenue of a conference championship game or in addition to conference championship game revenue. Follow the money is usually the trend rather than not.
ONLY if we (IU and Rutgers) can be in the Western Conference ... I'm guessing both our schedules would have at least 2 more wins a year if we were not in the East.
SEC is crazy. You could see 6-2 finishes for
Georgia (done)
Alabama (at Oklahoma, Auburn)
Texas A&M (at Auburn, Texas)
Texas (Kentucky, at aTm)
Ole Miss (at Florida, Mississippi State)
Tennessee (at Vanderbilt)
All have playoff hopes, which is why the loser of a title game could slip out of the top 12. That doesn't sound fair, but it is realistic.
Georgia (done)
Alabama (at Oklahoma, Auburn)
Texas A&M (at Auburn, Texas)
Texas (Kentucky, at aTm)
Ole Miss (at Florida, Mississippi State)
Tennessee (at Vanderbilt)
All have playoff hopes, which is why the loser of a title game could slip out of the top 12. That doesn't sound fair, but it is realistic.
Divisions are obviously the most sensible way to sort out standings in a league where the teams don't play a balanced schedule, that is why just about every other sports league uses them. Someone always makes the argument against divisions stating that the East was far better than the West, but anyone with half a brain should be able to figure out that the issue was the disparity between divisions and not the existence of divisions themselves.
The problem with the disparity was that some teams had much easier schedules than others, but that is still the case, except now it's a bigger problem because at least with divisions, the division standings compared teams with similar schedules. Seems like most Rutgers fans are happy with eliminating divisions since we got an easy schedule this year, but I bet that tune will change when Rutgers has to play Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan and finishes lower in the standings than a team that avoids most of the powerhouses like we did this year.
Imagine a team finishing 3rd in the conference and missing the championship game with one fewer loss than a team that had a much easier schedule. It's only a matter of time before that happens, and then since college football never gets it right, I bet instead of setting up divisions that are relatively level, the solution will probably be to have a committee determine conference rankings.
The problem with the disparity was that some teams had much easier schedules than others, but that is still the case, except now it's a bigger problem because at least with divisions, the division standings compared teams with similar schedules. Seems like most Rutgers fans are happy with eliminating divisions since we got an easy schedule this year, but I bet that tune will change when Rutgers has to play Oregon, Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan and finishes lower in the standings than a team that avoids most of the powerhouses like we did this year.
Imagine a team finishing 3rd in the conference and missing the championship game with one fewer loss than a team that had a much easier schedule. It's only a matter of time before that happens, and then since college football never gets it right, I bet instead of setting up divisions that are relatively level, the solution will probably be to have a committee determine conference rankings.
