Guys. I have heard from someone who is very close with a member of the former staff, that the firing of Eddie was handled very disrespectfully by Hobbs. He was basically given a 2 minute meeting with Hobbs after team got back, and told he was done, with very little in terms of conversation. Not the way you treat a former legend who many older boosters respect. I know it's a business, but a public thank you for your service in helping us thru a bad period would have done wonders in the eyes of many older boosters who loved Eddie. So, water under the bridge, but that's what was told to me.
The firing of Eddie Jordan
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Good guy. Horrible coach. He got paid a lot of money for not doing much and he will live. Let's move on.
No one needs fluff and sit more than 120 seconds with a guy giving you the axe.
I have ZERO problem if this is the way it went down. Best for both parties.
I have ZERO problem if this is the way it went down. Best for both parties.
Here's the Hobbs public statement that was published in the media - yes, short - but definitely not disrespectful -
"I have decided that we need new leadership for our men's basketball program," Hobbs said in a statement. "Rutgers University is deeply appreciative of Coach Jordan's efforts these past three years. He is and will always remain a valued member of the Rutgers Community."
"I have decided that we need new leadership for our men's basketball program," Hobbs said in a statement. "Rutgers University is deeply appreciative of Coach Jordan's efforts these past three years. He is and will always remain a valued member of the Rutgers Community."
After being let go, do you really believe Jordan wanted to stay longer than 2 minutes? What exactly were they going to talk about?
At the end of the day Eddie was a high level executive in a multi-billion dollar organization. The part he was in charge of was not performing so he got fired. A senior guy does not need (or want) a long winded speech, just the facts and the compensation he is owed.
2-minutes seems plenty sufficient to explain why Jordan was fired. It doesn't take long to say "seven win season", "zero recruits signed" and "best players suspended".
Jordan was publicly thanked via the press release announcing his release. Was he expecting something more? A retirement party perhaps?
the fact Jordan was able to finish the season instead of being fired before the last several games was enough leeway and consideration.If he wasnt an alum and former player he wouldnt have lasted till seasons end IMHO.
if you have ever fired someone or been fired you would know that two minutes is eternity and the more you say at that point may create legal issues in the future. Short and sweet.
Op is trying to stir the pot.
Legal issues firing people especially state employees. Short and too the point.
Legal issues firing people especially state employees. Short and too the point.
This was not a "no fault" lay off for economic reasons. A big mistake many people make in a termination for cause discussion is trying to "soften the blow" by saying some nice things about the soon to be departed employee. But that only confuses the fired employee when they hear a lot of stuff about their value and service and then be told, and now despite that, you gotta go. It causes the sort of cognitive dissonance that can make people really confused or mad. The plan is be direct, informative and brief.
At Eddie's level of experience he must have been through these before on both sides of the table. I can't believe this was news to Eddie, Hobbs only had to finalize what he must have imagined was a highly likely outcome.
At Eddie's level of experience he must have been through these before on both sides of the table. I can't believe this was news to Eddie, Hobbs only had to finalize what he must have imagined was a highly likely outcome.
if i was fired i would not want a 20 minute convo, a press release and banner honoring the poor job i have done. This was the proper move. No need to sugar coat an obvious decision. Onward to hopefully greener pastures. No problem, Hobbs is all business as it should be.
The nature of sports is that most coaches get fired sometime during their career.The less said during the meeting the better other than the pay out on his contract.
There was a scene in Money Ball when Brad Pitts character, GM Billy Beane was teaching his guy how to cut a player. Basically, he said these guys are professionals so all you need to do is be straight and to the point. No need for a lot of conversation, no need for the coach to try to change his mind. The decision is final. I'm sure in the history fired coaches, not one has convinced a GM or AD to change his mind.
Unfortunately for us, he was not a program builder and would have needed more time to develop as a college coach. Eddie is an excellent NBA assistant, hopefully he lands on his feet somewhere. I can't imagine that there would be any good way to have told him he was being let go.
- the guy sounds like he fancies himself to be a part of Eddie's entourage - and probably holds Eddie in very high regard - puts him up on a basketball royalty pedestal - and as such, felt that Eddie was "owed" something - that Eddie was in some way benevolently doing Rutgers a favor by serving as the basketball coach.
.... pretty sure that Jordan does not see it that way - he is a professional - Eddie has been around enough to know how it works - and - Eddie certainly did not desire some lengthy touchy-feely dismissal conversation.
Short and sweet is the only way to go. That's what any employment lawyer would recommend. There's nothing disrespectful about that, especially in light of the public statement thanking Eddie for his efforts. SBP, what do you propose Hobbs should have done, bring flowers and chocolate?
What? You expected Jordan to put up a Defense? (would be a first)
The guy OP spoke with obviously had his own agenda. OP should seek out new friends or new sources. Better yet, keep unsubstantiated bull crap off this site. But that would be a first as well.
What are we supposed to do? Treat him to a steak dinner? Man didn't recruit.
I don't believe unless you have a source. Too much crap goes taken on fact on these boards and it makes people think a certain where. Where is your source?I heard I heard.
Feel the same way. If you have information with a source, post it. If you don't want to name the source, don't make a post.
No way I am believing this.
Read Carino's tweet about the Foreman transfer and recruiting. I'd like to fire Jordan again if I could
More importantly - is he still good for the $50K he put up for the Building fund?
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well, I hope it is all right to feel a bit bad about having to fire him, because he was a former player..... a former player who expressed his love for
RU far more than most players who have moved on.....He loved RU, and I hope he still does.
I felt bad for Wenzel when he got canned also.... just can't help it.... yes I understand these guys move on and are all right, but the human side, not the business side of me, hurts a bit.
I would be the 1st person to feel that you dont FIRE an icon.....you just let him go and thank him for his service.
Ive read nothing that leads me to believe we have done otherwise. Everything said in public has been respectful.
EJ surely saw this coming and frankly had to be relieved.
We gave him the shot he deserved...and he was far from "the answer' to RUs Bball woes
He leaves a millionaire with respect from all.....
Ive read nothing that leads me to believe we have done otherwise. Everything said in public has been respectful.
EJ surely saw this coming and frankly had to be relieved.
We gave him the shot he deserved...and he was far from "the answer' to RUs Bball woes
He leaves a millionaire with respect from all.....
I would have expected Hobbs to have said, "It's not you, it's me. I'm just not ready for this type of commitment."
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