The Office of Athletic Director
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"• $4.2 million in revenue from the American Athletic Conference, which included the $1.5 million payout for participating in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl."
No she wasn't getting rid of the soccer coach. I was saying the fans on the other board were quite frustrated with Donigan and wanted to remove him. I'm not a soccer fan in the least or any Olympic sport fan but I do like to pay attention and see how we're doing and see what fans closer to the program are thinking. The fans on that board wanted Donigan gone. I don't know that JH actually wanted to get rid of him. People were actually complaining that why isn't she it's her job etc...just like you see here now with Flood.
I think it's more like he accidentally sees the result while reading a report on how the team's trip to Ann Arbor went.
Bingo. None of us would know anyone on the BOG except Brown if they walked up to us but they're the puppet masters pulling the strings. Everything that we can't fix with the athletic department department goes back to their chicken-sh*t flat out refusal to borrow against future Big Ten earnings. End of story.
Yes and and I'm wondering if that doesn't subtract out the 5M exit fee which is part of the 11.5M total exit fee. If you look at that secondary link in your article it leads to another. I actually want to say it's closer to 9.8M from what I remember in that tax return Upstream showed but I can't remember for sure. Might be for a different fiscal year. Nonetheless, here you see at the very least a 9.2M figure.
For the 2014 fiscal year, Rutgers received slightly more than $9.2 million from the American Athletic Conference.
"If you compare what Rutgers is spending and receiving (in revenue) as compared to our Big Ten counterparts, the biggest number that you can look at would be the NCAA/conference distribution,'' Purcaro said. "We received just under $9.3 million.
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...look_at_rutgers_athletics_ledger_reveals.html
It's a pretty commonly held business tenet that you don't incur long term debt to meet operational expenses.
If you want to borrow to build a multi use arena, like Leonard always suggests, I can see the business case.
If you want to borrow to upgrade your coaching staffs, only to use those funds as salaries, I tend to agree that that is a poor idea. The money needs to be gotten some other way.
This is my take on it. She had no idea of what kind of hostile media exists here and how they will try to play "gotcha" on any little thing real or imagined. She likely isn't the most media savvy but again she probably didn't think she had to be. Honestly, I don't think just about any other athletic director in the country could step in to the position and realize how hostile the media can be here and be able to handle it. If you've seen quotes from Barchi, he too is surprised by it. Frankly, I think any outsider would be. Mind you, it's not like insiders like Mulcahy/TP fared any better.
Anyways now after having realized that interacting with them and their gotcha games leads to nothing but trouble she's cut them off for the most part and communicated through RU media platforms and statements. Like I said I think that should be the blueprint for any future AD as well not just her. You get nothing for being buddy buddy and they will jump on you the first chance they get. Just focus on the real objectives of the job, hiring good coaches and fundraising.
She also hired the women's soccer coach. And Women's soccer was recently ranked #6 in the country and competing for the BIG tourney title.
And yes, she kept Donigan as HC of men's soccer in the face of increasing chirping about letting him go.
And people forget JH also tried to get rid of Flood in her first full year here. Perhaps she saw something early on that concerned her? (And yes, she did come up short on buyout and replacement funds).
It's a long slow slog. RU and the PTB allowed a lot of processes and infrastructure to decline over the years (or never created it in the first place).
JH is one of those hired or promoted by Barchi and the BOG charged with a pretty massive turnaround and culture change.
And part of that culture change is the culture of alumni giving, no matter how much people want to push back against that idea as a cause of our failures and inability to make a major breakthrough.
From the IRS Form 990's that the BE/AAC filed, following is the annual distribution provided by the conference to Rutgers:
Fiscal Year ending ($ Millions)
June 30, 2006 6.279
June 30, 2007 7.384
June 30, 2008 8.024
June 30, 2009 8.230
June 30, 2010 8.600
June 30, 2011 8.158
June 30, 2012 10.411
June 30, 2013 10.604
June 30, 2014 8.330
Hermann is an apparent light weight.
She is supposed to lead, not follow. If you blame Barchi or the BOG, she has failed. That's it, if she is failing to lead, it doesn't matter why.
Barchi too! He pretends not to care about football. That way, he can leave the failure on Hermann and Flood. It's the weak, hiding behind the weak.
She is supposed to lead, not follow. If you blame Barchi or the BOG, she has failed. That's it, if she is failing to lead, it doesn't matter why.
Barchi too! He pretends not to care about football. That way, he can leave the failure on Hermann and Flood. It's the weak, hiding behind the weak.
If Hermann tried to get rid of Flood and failed, that tells you everything. She is weak.
Thank you I knew it was in that 10M vicinity and thought it was you who posted it. The last figure doesn't jive with that link above from the SL sayin 9.2M in 2014 but the general vicinity of all these figures are the same. Point being we're not making a ton more in the B10 than we did in the last year of the AAC/BE and we won't be for a few years.
I asked almost an identical question on another thread. I see many people saying she's "not allowed" to speak to the media and have asked someone to verify that that's correct (with an appropriate link, or at least, say, "I've heard this directly from X and my credentials are beyond reproach," which is obviously very unlikely to occur), but have never seen anything definitive on the topic. Typical rumor-mongering as far as I can tell.
I've seen her speak at RU functions a few times and have had a few 1:1 conversations at Rutgers events I've attended, and have always been impressed with her speaking abilities, so despite her earlier gaffes, which are well documented, I do believe she's more than capable.
To me what it tells us is that our donor pool hasn't been big enough and has been too small forever. I never complain or admonish those here because I think by and large most here donate big or small, that's fine with me. If you can donate more great and if you can't that's okay too.
She failed but it doesn't sound like it was by much. I could point out that TP failed to get rid of FHJ with much smaller finances necessary. He was originally bringing him back until that whole Pitt baseball game thing. He didn't get rid of Rice either. Nothing stopped him from firing him. He could have fired him without cause if he wanted to but no funds. How many times did Mulcahy get rid of a coach with some other side pretenses rather than just fire outright. Why all these "unorthodox" kind of firings? Because there's no money whether it was BM, TP or JH. You can say it's the school as much as you like but it's the donor base not being large enough.
We don't have enough donors and to me that network is only being built out now under JH. It's in its infancy at best even if she's been here 2 years. Did we even have a position like SB before JH got here. I've never been engaged as an alum/fan (be it for donations or just customer service wise) as much as I have been since JH took over and I'm a nobody donor just like most of the board. I'm not donating 6 or 7 figures but the engagement is there and that's how over time you can build out your donor base and possibly squeeze more out of your current one..
How are hiring mistakes fixed at other schools? Donations help wipe away the mistakes. Do you think these big schools hit every single time they make a hire? Nope. What they have is such a big donor base (large and small donors) that they can wipe away those mistakes and start afresh. Whether it was Chizik being fired by Auburn 1 year after an extension and 8M or Hoke or Will Muschamp or Tenn at their misfires and the list goes on and on. Every single dollar we donate will not always be put to the greatest use or be maximized. It's the nature of the beast, mistakes are going to be made whether it's JH or any other AD. But having that large donor base who continues to donate through thick and thin helps you wipe away those mistakes and recover from them quicker.
How is infrastructure built at other schools? In large part through donations. I was just saying Minnesota was being characterized as having trouble raising funds for their 166M athletic complex. I was like wow really. I thought it was going well. I looked it up and found out they raised 76.5M in private donations. They wanted to raise 80% of the total and borrow the rest with athletic revenue bonds instead they got a little less than 50% and will have to borrow for more than half the cost. I was like "rich AD" problems" lol. The AD here who can raise that kind of money (10s of millions) will be the first and IMO will be entitled to a few misfires on hiring. That's how significant I think that kind of fundraising is to us given our history.
Point being again you see it's private donations that drive these things. I've said the B10 revenue is going to be great but it's not a bottomless pot of gold and private donations are still necessary to get done all that we need to get done. Our donor network and engagement only now is being built out after decades of neglect. We have a long way to go but JH is the first one I've seen who's actually taken it seriously and given it the attention it deserves and this is across all sports too not just the big ones. You never know where that next big whale donor will come from and there's also the ability to cross promote between different projects. If you neglect the Olympics sports and the passions of those alums why would they bother to take a second look at anything else. Students who play sports like lacrosse, soccer, wrestling, golf are more likely to come from affluent backgrounds and will also likely go on to do well in life by neglecting those athletes passions you lose a very good pool of potential donors, Again JH is the first AD I've seen who's trying to put the backing of the AD behind these sports. Honestly, I'm not even a fan of them but I understand the practicality of it and I still want them to do well anyway.
Not if that AD is good at the first job they have. #Fundraising
I don't know why the numbers in the SL don't jive. The FY2014 numbers I posted are from the AAC IRS filings. The SL numbers appear to have been received from the Athletics CFO. Unfortunately the SL isn't very good at reporting financials (and they are often just wrong with what they report). So I don't know why the CFO's numbers don't agree with the IRS filing. My guess is that the CFO is reporting conference distribution prior to givebacks that Rutgers was required to make related to leaving the conference, while the IRS filing is the net distribution. Certainly if I were a reporter getting conference distribution numbers from the CFO, knowing that Rutgers had to pay an exit fee, I would ask if the numbers were gross or net and what they included. I wish the SL was a better newspaper.
JH has been very quiet the last six months or so. You never hear from or about her. Maybe the reality of the B1G and the mountain she has to climb is starting to sink in. I know she is getting paid but that doesn't make it any easier. She may not be here long term. $$$$
so now her employee tells her what to do ?, some on here make too many excuses for Julie--its barchi, its the board, its the press--this as well as the fund to fire flood honestly makes Julie look weak and ineffective --unless you're bac or a few others, most who find fault with our athletics feel the "whole " organization is a mess from top to bottom
I guess we will just disagree on this one. I think the basketball program has spun it's wheels for the last two years (at best). Yes, we've gotten Sanders and some players who show some promise but we've also graduated Mack and Jack and lost Etou through a transfer. In my opinion, our incoming talent does not match what we lost (and we were bad even WITH these players). Season tickets are down and I don't necessary think there is no where to go but up. A last place team can still get worse.
I think that is the whole reason to disbelieve the "Julie isn't allowed to talk to the press" myth. It is one thing if there were evidence that Barchi or the BOG prohibited her from talking to the press. But the claim by Politi and others that it is Luicci that is prohibiting her from talking to the press is just laughable. Maybe Luicci advised her to avoid the press, and she took his advice. But I'd be really surprised if it is Luicci and not Hermann who made the final decision.
There are two guys who post on that board, one who only post when we lose or kids are academically ineligible, the other who pretty much only post when we lose, who absolutely hate Dan. The one moron even had to compare Danny's coach of the year award, to the one Terry Sheareceived, in the thread I started about that the other day. They are really the only ones who started any trouble, about wanting him fired, a few others haven't been happy, but that was about it and now that should be put to rest for a while.
Almost as if they have a school to run, and running up a big credit card tab at the same time that the school is taking yearly hits to its budget might be frowned on.
The admin basically told donors to shove it today.
Not sure what role JH had in that, but she is a total fool for not reaching out to talk to the bigger donors and ask how to involve them.
Flood has to go and if he takes more people down with him, I don't really care anymore. I cannot believe the mickey mouse operation right now.
Not sure what role JH had in that, but she is a total fool for not reaching out to talk to the bigger donors and ask how to involve them.
Flood has to go and if he takes more people down with him, I don't really care anymore. I cannot believe the mickey mouse operation right now.
Considering how fast this all happened -- donation site goes up and within 35 hours Rutgers responds the way they did. I get the feeling this was not very well thought out. There may not have been too many people involved, just a gut reaction from someone. I'm not saying Julie was or wasn't involved, but I have a hunch people above the athletic department handled this (and did so very poorly).
A few different things in regards to the AD:
- Fundraising. Julie did a great job of fundraising for Louisville. If ADs can do the job elsewhere but struggle to have similar success reeling in the money here, maybe, just maybe, we have to look in the mirror for the problem with that. You can't get blood from a stone, and you can't get money from a donor base that is cheap and has no pride in their school. I think Julie has shown some successes in fundraising so far, but it is way too early to give a good evaluation of this aspect of her job. When we do evaluate her, it should be based on RU's previous history of fundraising, not the history of fundraising of other schools.
- Media Relations. I do agree with Bac that this is a minor job of the AD. In most places, the AD is behind the scenes. The Football and Basketball Head Coaches are the faces of the program and the ones that are dealing with the media for the most part. That said, RU needs to take off the kid gloves with her and let her interact more when appropriate. She doesn't need to be available on a weekly basis, but should be available to the media quarterly. I do think the scrutiny she gets from the media is a bit ridiculous. She was "loved" out in Louisville, yet our media tries to take her down for some ridiculous stuff. I do think she was media naive when coming here, because other places don't treat ADs or coaches like the media does in the NYC-NJ area.
- Her scope. If the BOG/President limit her use of funds and direct her to eliminate/reduce the subsidy, then that is the parameters she can work in. It doesn't matter if she wants to spend more, or if she thinks its wise to make a change. Any AD is going to be limited by these guidelines set forth by our administration.
- Her hires so far. This is pretty limited, but she did hire the Womens Soccer coach, an internal promotion. She did facilitate getting Ralph Friedgen here. She did facilitate getting Pritzlaff here for wrestling. She has worked with the coaches to get appropriate support staff in place to improve the liklihood of success in a few sports.
- Athletic Department Organization. Most of this is behind the scenes, so it is difficult to evaluate thoroughly from the outside. That said, from everything we hear, improvements have been made in organizational structure,
