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THE OFFICIAL 2016-2017 RUTGERS BASKETBALL SEASON PREDICTION THREAD

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Here we go...

11/11/16: Molloy W 1-0
11/13/16: Drexel W 2-0
11/17/16: at De Paul L 2-1
11/20/16: Niagara W 3-1
11/23/16: North Texas W 4-1
11/25/16: Hartford W 5-1
11/30/16: at Miami L 5-2
12/3/16: Morgan St W 6-2
12/6/16: C Conn St W 7-2
12/10/16: at Stony Brook L 7-3
12/14/16: FDU W 8-3
12/18/16: Fordham (MSG) W 9-3
12/23/16: at Seton Hall L 9-4
12/27/16: at Wisconsin L 9-5/0-1
1/1/17: Penn St L 9-6/0-2
1/4/17: at Michigan St L 9-7/0-3
1/8/16: at Iowa L 9-8/0-4
1/12/17: Northwestern L 9-9/0-5
1/15/17: at Indiana L 9-10/0-6
1/21/17: Nebraska W 10-10/1-6
1/24/17: at Maryland L 10-11/1-7
1/28/17: Wisconsin L 10-12/1-8
1/31/17: Iowa W 11-12/2-8
2/4/17: at Penn State L 11-13/2-9
2/8/17: at Ohio State L 11-14/2-10
2/11/17: Minnesota W 12-14/3-10
2/14/17: at Purdue L 12-15/3-11
2/18/17: at Northwestern L 12-16/3-12
2/22/17: Michigan L 12-17/3-13
2/28/17: Maryland L 12-18/3-14
3/4/17: Illinois W 13-18/4-14

non conference: 9-4
Big 10: 4-14
Overall 13-18
first round Big 10 loss
Final Record: 13-19

I think RU will win anywhere between 10-14 games so I think I fall on the slightly optimistic side. Non conference wise I dont think RU can go better than 11-2 or worse than 7-6. Split the difference here. I think RU wins only one of the 3 tossups of Fordham, Stony Brook and De Paul..and if they do win 2, I expect maybe a WTF loss so I am pretty confident of a 9-4 non conference

In league its hard to move up in this league. The usual suspects of Nebraska, Illinois, Penn State, Minnesota and Northwestern are the best shots at wins, however some of these schools have higher expectations to move up in the standings. I like RU to get a surprise upset win this year and Im going with Iowa at the RAC where it comes together. I can see some close games at the RAC against some of the better schools but consistently falling short. Lets go with wins over Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota and Illinois. Its just too much to expect more than that...could they get 6? I suppose so but ask the other bottom feeders in this league how hard it is even to get to 6 wins

I am going to consider anything more than 11 wins a very successful season for the program. This is a program that has lost 40 of 47 games. Wins are going to have to be fought for. Program needs to learn to win. I dont see them coming so easy, I hope people keep the expectations in check. What will be more important than wins and losses will be the improvements in all the things that make a difference...better rebounding, better conditioning, better IQ, better teamwork, better hustle, better fight.
 
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Malloy W 1-0
Drexel W 2-0
DePaul W 3-0
Niagara W 4-0
N. Texas W 5-0
Hartford W 6-0
Miami L 6-1
Morgan St. W 7-1
C Conn St. W 8-1
Stoney W 9-1
FDU W 10-1
Fordham W 11-1
Seton Hall L 11-2
Wisconsin L 11-3 0-1
Penn St W 12-3 1-1
Mich St. L 12-4 1-2
Iowa L 12-5 1-3
Northwestern W 13-5 2-3
Indiana L 13-6 2-4
Nebraska L 13-7 2-5
Maryland L 13-8 2-6
Wisconsin L 13-9 2-7
Iowa L 13-10 2-8
Penn St. L 13-11 2-9
Ohio St. L 13-12 2-10
Minnesota W 14-12 3-10
Purdue L 14-13 3-11
Northwestern L 14-14 3-12
Michigan L 14-15 3-13
Maryland L 14-16 3-14
Illinois W 15-16 4-14



OOC 11-2
B1G 4-14
B1G Tourn. 0-1
Final 15-17
 
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OOC 9-4
Big Ten: 3-15
Tourney: 1-1

13-20 but lots of close games and optimism going forward.
 
OOC 10-3 creating real interest leading to fun at the RAC again
Big Ten 5-13
Tourney 1-1

16-17 with Fun at the RAC restored including a couple near misses on upsets
 
11/11/16: Molloy W 1-0
11/13/16: Drexel W 2-0
11/17/16: at De Paul L 2-1
11/20/16: Niagara W 3-1
11/23/16: North Texas W 4-1
11/25/16: Hartford W 5-1
11/30/16: at Miami L 5-2
12/3/16: Morgan St W 6-2
12/6/16: C Conn St W 7-2
12/10/16: at Stony Brook L 7-3
12/14/16: FDU W 8-3
12/18/16: Fordham (MSG) W 9-3
12/23/16: at Seton Hall L 9-4
12/27/16: at Wisconsin L 9-5/0-1
1/1/17: Penn St W 10-5/1-1
1/4/17: at Michigan St L 10-6/1-2
1/8/16: at Iowa L 10-7/1-3
1/12/17: Northwestern W 11-7/2-3
1/15/17: at Indiana L 11-8/2-4
1/21/17: Nebraska W 12-8/3-4
1/24/17: at Maryland L 12-9/3-5
1/28/17: Wisconsin L 12-10/3-6
1/31/17: Iowa L 12-11/3-7
2/4/17: at Penn State L 12-12/3-8
2/8/17: at Ohio State L 12-13/3-9
2/11/17: Minnesota W 13-13/4-9
2/14/17: at Purdue L 13-14/4-10
2/18/17: at Northwestern L 13-15/4-11
2/22/17: Michigan L 13-16/4-12
2/28/17: Maryland L 13-17/4-13
3/4/17: Illinois W 14-17/5-13

non conference: 9-4
Big 10: 5-13
Overall 14-17
1st Round B1G Tourney win, 2nd Round Loss
Final Record: 15-18
 
10-3 OOC
6-12 B1G
0-1 Tourney
16-16
(Same picks as Bac except wins at home vs Northwestern and Penn State, and a road win vs Stoney Brook)
 
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8-5 OOC.....4-0 vs Automatics, 3-1 vs. Better win, 1-2 Could wins (SB, Ford, DePaul), 0-2 Dreamers (SHU and Mia)
3-15 B1G with 1 upset at home
0-1 B1G tourney

11-21 overall.
The product on the court is much better and we lose a lot of close games. We finish in the #140 area in kenpom. When we look at 6 games in B1G where we were ahead or behind by less than 4 with 10 minutes left and lost we enter '17-'18 very optimistic.
 
For the record kenpom has us at 12-19 entering the B1G tourney and starting out #191. It has us at .991 on offense and 1.006 on defense (points per possession). last year we were .963 and 1.069. So of the improvement 70% of it will be on the defensive end (1.006-1.069) vs. (.991-.963)
 
was thinking 13-19 myself but can "feel" maybe 2 more wins if things really click the right way. 15-18 (one of them round 2 of the tourney)
 
9-4 (OOC)
5-13 (B1G regular season)
1-1 (B1G tournament)

15-18

Defense and rebounding are markedly better. Freeman stays healthy and becomes a legit #2 option and pain in the arse for our opponents. Sanders 3rd Team All-B1G. Freeman gets Honorable Mention All-B1G.

Go RU!
 
Here's my (very optimistic) take. When expectations are nil, that's when the unthinkable can happen.

11/11/16: Molloy - W
11/13/16: Drexel - L
11/17/16: at De Paul - W
11/20/16: Niagara - W
11/23/16: North Texas - W
11/25/16: Hartford - W
11/30/16: at Miami - L
12/3/16: Morgan St - W
12/6/16: C Conn St - W
12/10/16: at Stony Brook - W
12/14/16: FDU - W
12/18/16: Fordham (MSG) - W
12/23/16: at Seton Hall - L
12/27/16: at Wisconsin - L
1/1/17: Penn St - W
1/4/17: at Michigan St - L
1/8/16: at Iowa - L
1/12/17: Northwestern - W
1/15/17: at Indiana - L
1/21/17: Nebraska - W
1/24/17: at Maryland - L
1/28/17: Wisconsin - W
1/31/17: Iowa - W
2/4/17: at Penn State - W
2/8/17: at Ohio State - L
2/11/17: Minnesota - L
2/14/17: at Purdue - L
2/18/17: at Northwestern - W
2/22/17: Michigan - L
2/28/17: Maryland - L
3/4/17: Illinois - W

non conference: 10-3
Big 10: 8-10
Overall 18-13
first round Big 10 loss
Final Record: 18-14
 
I understand everyone's prediction and show me

I just really buy the concept that we were a RIDICULOUSLY young 11-20 team that was worse because of a a ridiculous amount of front court injury thar made matching up almost impossible

If you subscribe to that concept, with added pieces, better S&C and better coaching

Thinking 10-3 out of confrence
A competitive 6-12 big ten play

16-15 heading to DC with the entire team returning for 17/18 (except Gettys) thinking NCAAs

I actually think if it comes together we could be 18-13 but I can't expect an injury free season and everything to break right
 
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Since the Wisconsin win we are 0-41 vs. teams rated 191 or better by kenpom. Minnesota win last year was 192.
 
Scarlet Shack said:
I understand everyone's prediction and show me

I just really buy the concept that we were a RIDICULOUSLY young 11-20 team that was worse because of a a ridiculous amount of front court injury thar made matching up almost impossible

If you subscribe to that concept, with added pieces, better S&C and better coaching

Thinking 10-3 out of confrence
A competitive 6-12 big ten play

16-15 heading to DC with the entire team returning for 17/18 (except Gettys) thinking NCAAs

I actually think if it comes together we could be 18-13 but I can't expect an injury free season and everything to break right
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Shack's scenario is EXACTLY how I see it playing out.

But let's dream a little too. IF (humongous if) EVERYTHING goes right -- i.e., Freeman averages 15 ppg/8rpg; Sanders averages 16 ppg/5 apg; Williams, Thiam, Sa, Johnson, and Bullock raise our 3-pt shooting percentage to 34%; our defense and rebounding are way better (especially because we have pretty big and athletic "bigs" and a coach who actually stresses defense and rebounding); and we avoid injuries -- maybe we can go 10-3 OOC and 10-8 in conference, for an overall 20-11 record heading into the B1G tourney.

There, I said it.

Do I think there is a good, or even decent, possibility of this actually occurring? Well, no. But I think it is an "outlier" scenario that is CAPABLE of happening, IF everything goes right (which it usually doesn't).
 
I'd say 12 or 13 wins, if everyone stays healthy. Depending on the health of other teams, we may be able to squeeze another win or 2 out. I think with the increased focus on defense and rebounding, we shouldn't see any more 30 point losses.
So more wins and playing competitively (and hopefully bigger crowds) will build momentum on the recruiting trail, for the 2018 class.
 
This is all good fun as long as everyone promises not to crucify the coaching staff in December if we go 7-6, a la the football board.
 
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Woo hoo bac posted the prediction thread!

So everyone here probably knows how optimistic I am with this team, this is my prediction:

11/11/16: Molloy W 1-0
11/13/16: Drexel W 2-0
11/17/16: at De Paul W 3-0
11/20/16: Niagara W 4-0
11/23/16: North Texas W 5-0
11/25/16: Hartford W 6-0
11/30/16: at Miami L 6-1
12/3/16: Morgan St W 7-1
12/6/16: C Conn St W 8-1
12/10/16: at Stony Brook W 9-1
12/14/16: FDU W 10-1
12/18/16: Fordham (MSG) L 10-2
12/23/16: at Seton Hall W 11-2
12/27/16: at Wisconsin L 11-3/0-1
1/1/17: Penn St W 12-3/1-1
1/4/17: at Michigan St L 12-4/1-2
1/8/16: at Iowa L 12-5/1-3
1/12/17: Northwestern W 13-5/2-3
1/15/17: at Indiana L 13-6/2-4
1/21/17: Nebraska W 14-6/3-4
1/24/17: at Maryland L 14-7/3-5
1/28/17: Wisconsin L 14-8/3-6
1/31/17: Iowa L 14-9/3-7
2/4/17: at Penn State L 14-10/3-8
2/8/17: at Ohio State L 14-11/3-9
2/11/17: Minnesota W 15-11/4-9
2/14/17: at Purdue L 15-12/4-10
2/18/17: at Northwestern L 15-13/4-11
2/22/17: Michigan W 16-13/5-11
2/28/17: Maryland L 16-14/3
5-12
3/4/17: Illinois W 17-14/6-12

non conference: 11-2
Big 10: 6-12
Overall 17-14
1-1 in the BiG Tourney
Final Record: 18-15

I agree with bac we will win a huge game at home, I picked Michigan but it could very well be Iowa. I think the RAC will be back this year, giving us home wins against all the mediocre Big 10 teams (and its very convenient that we have many home games this year against the bottom part of our league).

And here's the final prediction, that B1G tourney win, plus 3-4 top 50 wins including a huge one at Seton Hall, plus a respectable 4-4 down the stretch, puts us in the NIT!
 
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Only a few more days until the season, can't wait! The key to this season is to show improvement, we need something to give future recruits a reason to believe we can become competitive.

OOC- 9-4
B1G- 3-15
B1G Tourney- 1-1

Overall: 13-20 (A very competitive 13-20)
 
Four to five wins in conference. Thirteen to fifteen wins overall. And well played games. I think if this occurs we can all agree that Pikiell will be taking this program in the right direction moving forward. And for once in a long time the future will be bright again in men's BB.

I also expect better recruits for the following year because now Pikiell has something tangible to sell recruits (our new facilities).
 
I think we can win anywhere between 14-18 games. I think we split with PSU, Minnesota, Northwestern, and Nebraska with each taking a step back this season. I also saw someone having us lose to Fordham which I feel that we will win. I have a lot of confidence in Pikell and I think that he has RU playing defense or ride the pine. Also if we can win those 4 games and have a 500 record, i would not be surprised if Coach P wins Coach of the Year. Might be a stretch but lets see what happens.
 
nirrad said:
I think we can win anywhere between 14-18 games. I think we split with PSU, Minnesota, Northwestern, and Nebraska with each taking a step back this season. I also saw someone having us lose to Fordham which I feel that we will win. I have a lot of confidence in Pikell and I think that he has RU playing defense or ride the pine. Also if we can win those 4 games and have a 500 record, i would not be surprised if Coach P wins Coach of the Year. Might be a stretch but lets see what happens.
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Haha I was the one with the Fordham loss. I don't think we are past having wtf games yet. That was my wtf prediction
 
Greene Rice FIG said:
Since the Wisconsin win we are 0-41 vs. teams rated 191 or better by kenpom. Minnesota win last year was 192.
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I already see people giving RU wins in all the possible swing games. I see some even predicting sweeping of Northwestern and Penn State even though both bitch slapped us recently and they have high hopes. I realize RU will be better, but whether they can win or not you have to look at the rest of the league which isnt just standing still. Just annexing wins over schools that do not have the big name is setting some up for disappointment
 
Fordham was pretty good last year and the game is at MSG. I could see that game going either way but I think we will win it.
 
Just like in football I'm not going down the list this time around. After watching Jordan tear this program down to the worst level I've ever seen, I just can't wait to watch a coaching staff work hard again and a program begin to rebuild. I feel like I'm always too optimistic with games I mark as wins and know nothing about the opponent and the conference games are just all very good teams.

I'm hoping we have some surprise wins and that the RAC is fun again. Papa johns pizza at the half and give me a team who fights, plays defense and rebounds and I'm more than happy.
 
OOC: 10-3
B1G: 4-14
Tournament: 0-1
Final Record: 14-18

14 wins and heightened optimism.
 
I predict that we will be 1-0 on Friday. Then 1-0 on Sunday. Kurt Flood style.
 
Without knowing how effective the team will be scoring more than 65 points per game I think 14 wins is my best guess.Winning any league games on the road will once again be difficult to achieve.
 
Ole Cabbagehead said:
This is all good fun as long as everyone promises not to crucify the coaching staff in December if we go 7-6, a la the football board.
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7-6 would be an awful job by coach. Eddie went 6-7 with worse players and a more difficult schedule. 9-4 should be worse case.
 
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