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These refs suck

Have you met the R U Screw? If not well now you've been properly introduced. Lanape Indians burial ground curse alive and well.
 
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In the first half we had a receiver man handled twice before a ball even got to the receiver. On the Iowa touchdown the replay showed his knee touching the ground at about the one and a half yard line and he still had the ball in the air. Lastly I felt that the fumble that gave Iowa the ball on their winning drive should have been a play stopped before the player was pushed back. We seemed to definitely get shafted at least 4 times today.
 
2 offensive PI's yet Iowa was mugging RU's receivers with nothing being called?

As our PSU friends have been warning us since we joined the B1G. New schools don't get the calls
 
I usually appreciate that B1G officials tend to "let'em play" a little, HOWEVER, seemed to me like there were about 2-3 blatant calls that we didn't get today. Could have been big ones for us, too, IIRC.
 
The two offensive PI calls were outrageous considering nothing of the sort was called on Iowa and there several good cases for it.

Really I would expect that BS against Michigan or tOSU but not Iowa.
 
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Holding by the offensive line and DB's is rampant in the Big we need to get better at it, because it isn't going to get called.
 
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The two offensive PI calls were outrageous considering nothing of the sort was called on Iowa and there several good cases for it.

Really I would expect that BS against Michigan or tOSU but not Iowa.

I don't know if I've ever seen that twice in one game against the same team. Were they legit? The 2nd one, to me, appeared to be our guy (Arch?) simply running into their LB, no?
 
2 offensive PI's yet Iowa was mugging RU's receivers with nothing being called?

As our PSU friends have been warning us since we joined the B1G. New schools don't get the calls


I'm still trying to figure out that OPI against Tsimis. I get the hip-check... but how does a receiver cause PI when he hip checks AS he's catching the ball?
 
2 things:

- those offensive PI calls are freakin' KILLERS! 15-yards from the LOS! WOW!

- 2 penalties on our FG block unit for climbing on guys. REALLY?? How legit were they? I mean that guy was gonna put the ball into the end zone as he did on the opening kick, regardless, but geeze!
 
Holding by the offensive line and DB's is rampant in the Big we need to get better at it, because it isn't going to get called.
I said this two years ago. I thought we did a good job of it yesterday ourselves.

Calls seemed pretty even IMO. They made 2 big plays and we also made a couple. That's why the game was close.
 
2 things:

- those offensive PI calls are freakin' KILLERS! 15-yards from the LOS! WOW!

- 2 penalties on our FG block unit for climbing on guys. REALLY?? How legit were they? I mean that guy was gonna put the ball into the end zone as he did on the opening kick, regardless, but geeze!

It was kind of comical to see them climb over the OL to be honest.

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Also Quanzell got absolutely manhandled on the go ahead TD run.

If it's not a hold, it's a damn obvious block in the back.

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Also Quanzell got absolutely manhandled on the go ahead TD run.

If it's not a hold, it's a damn obvious block in the back.

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He was engaged by the Iowa lineman while in the free blocking zone. There is no such thing as a block in the back by an interior lineman when they engage another player inside the free blocking zone. A player cannot come from outside the free blocking zone and hit a player who is inside it in the back(ie. a wide receiver cracking down). The block was legal in your clip.Almost anything goes in the free blocking zone if it is 1 on 1. It changes when O-lineman double team a player. If it is 1 on 1 the officials will only look at both players arms/hands for holding or hands to the face.
 
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There was a play sometime in the first half where (after play was over) the Iowa player took a swipe and hit Harris in the face across his helmet right in front of the field ref. The ref just shook his head and did nothing.

In regards to those that counter the 'ref sux' argent with Iowa got bad calls too---doesn't that still mean the refs sucked? Making bad calls on both sides maybe some to even out prior ones still doesn't bring it to equal and say they did a quality job.
 
We noticed most of the bad calls people are referring to here. Has anyone watched the game on TV afterward to see if these calls and non-calls were in fact bad ones? Especially interested in the very obvious pass interference by Iowa (the first of the two mentioned above) and, of course, the apparent incomplete pass that was ruled a fumble that ended up being the deciding factor in the game.

In instances where there is a turnover, isn't there a rule stating that the play must be reviewed? Why was there no review? I thought that RU would challenge the call but were we unable to do so as we were out of timeouts?

Thanks.
 
I don't know if I've ever seen that twice in one game against the same team. Were they legit? The 2nd one, to me, appeared to be our guy (Arch?) simply running into their LB, no?

I really hate being someone who attributes a loss to the refs in significant part but I cannot disagree...there were also at least two calls on Iowa for PI that were not made and the fans made that quite clear.
 
I thought the one sequence that was pretty funny was the fathom fumble by the Iowa qb that we apparently recovered, but I didn't see any signal from any official. Both teams jogged off the field to get ready for a 4th down play. Then the ball was placed down and the chains reset as a 1st down for us. Neither team was back on the field nor did anyone except maybe their qb even realize what had happened.
Then Iowa finally asked for a replay and it was overturned and they punted. Not sure if the officials really knew what they were doing.
So in the end the officials were either equally equal or equally bad !
 
He was engaged by the Iowa lineman while in the free blocking zone. There is no such thing as a block in the back by an interior lineman when they engage another player inside the free blocking zone. A player cannot come from outside the free blocking zone and hit a player who is inside it in the back(ie. a wide receiver cracking down). The block was legal in your clip.Almost anything goes in the free blocking zone if it is 1 on 1. It changes when O-lineman double team a player. If it is 1 on 1 the officials will only look at both players arms/hands for holding or hands to the face.

Understandable but that doesn't allow the lineman to hold the defender well after the ball is beyond their area...I've seen numerous times where they call a holding call well behind the action of the play.
 
Understandable but that doesn't allow the lineman to hold the defender well after the ball is beyond their area...I've seen numerous times where they call a holding call well behind the action of the play.

With the 2 being out of the play there wasn't even an official looking at them really. It had no effect on the play and they aren't going to call it. The Iowa back was cleared of the RU player running him down.
 
With the 2 being out of the play there wasn't even an official looking at them really. It had no effect on the play and they aren't going to call it. The Iowa back was cleared of the RU player running him down.

Agree, Quanzell allowed himself to be blocked out of that play. Nothing wrong here...
 
All of this may be true but we lost because we sucked on red zone offense, plain and simple. Both the play calling by the coaches and the execution by the offense (primarily Laviano was "Floodlike".
 
Also Quanzell got absolutely manhandled on the go ahead TD run.

If it's not a hold, it's a damn obvious block in the back.

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Why do most DBs hand check with the blocker on running plays like this? I was taught that the best move is to shove the blocker back into runner. One of our DBs brilliantly did this in the second half to great effect for a 2-yard loss.
 
Iowa fans think the holding on Iowa that called back the TD run was b.s. - so, yeah it works both ways.

but, two (2!) OPI against RU calls and not calling 2 pretty blatant PI's against Iowa was frustrating...
 
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