This stinks
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They usually screw us by putting us out west this time they keep us east only to lose in the second round to U Conn. We would have been better off out west this time
*sigh*
And Seton Hall as the 1st round opponent. How droll.
BTW, that's a brutal seed for RPI 14 Dayton.
And Seton Hall as the 1st round opponent. How droll.
BTW, that's a brutal seed for RPI 14 Dayton.
Have to beat SHU first.
its a shame the committee can't get just a tad more creative with this stuff. Unfortunately they probably think they are. Of well.
its a shame the committee can't get just a tad more creative with this stuff. Unfortunately they probably think they are. Of well.
Well at least I got to enjoy the selection show until 7:02PM. I guess we should have assumed we would be with them. Once again 1 or 2 more wins would have placed us in a better position. So I guess we just need to beat SH and then takedown UCONN and roll from there.
So not only did we sink to an 8 seed, we must be the lowest 8 seed to be put in the Uconn bracket. Oh what a fun prospect....go to Storrs and have the crowd 100% against us, for both games (if we get that far....)
Let's hope we can keep the embarrassment to a(somewhat) minimum. Amazing how the committee finds new and different ways to screw RU every year.
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Actually, there's a pretty good chance that RU is the #1 #8 seed - basically, they seed based on geography in order of your seed, so if you're in the closest region, there's a fair chance you're the highest team at that seed level. (Charlie Creme has had RU as an 8 for the last few days, bumped down from a 7 because of bracket principle requirements, and this actually is consistent with that, much though I hate to say it.)
I know that you're just trying to be funny, but just because someone on the football board said that there's a potential $500K bonus doesn't make it true.
Actually think Geno has a point. In his comment to the reporter's question about teams who get put in the UConn bracket, he said they should be happy, because if they can beat UConn, they can beat anyone in the tournament. He sees being in the Albany bracket as an opportunity.
I hope our team sees the opportunity and doesn't slack off in the Seton Hall game, expecting a loss in the next game to UConn.
I plan to go to support my team. Win or lose, it's my team. I love 'em. They deserve their fan's support.
I hope our team sees the opportunity and doesn't slack off in the Seton Hall game, expecting a loss in the next game to UConn.
I plan to go to support my team. Win or lose, it's my team. I love 'em. They deserve their fan's support.
actually it does not stink...its pretty fair actually...RU did not play well at the end of the year and it effected their seed, their rpi was not all that hot...so they put RU in the closest bracket which is the closest drive from NJ and plays a NJ team. Its actually something that makes sense money wise and keeping the team from travelling
except we didn't get screwed...RU did this to themselves and unfortunately I don't think SHU is a good matchup for a RU team limping into the tournament while they come in with a chip on the shoulder
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The $500,000 bonus that the head coach would get for reaching a regional semifinal is accurate.
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/rutgers/2014/05/21/stringer-new-contract/9383099/
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Princeton actually tops my list of teams that got jerked around by the committee. In general, it looks like non-majors did not get a lot of love.
I have two points of hope:
1. If I remember correctly, the last half-game between RU and UConn was won by RU (2014, Knights outscored Huskies by one in the second half of their second conference game). It was the only half of the 2013-2014 season in which UConn was outscored.
2. RU had a six-game winning streak this season in OOC play and another six-game winning streak this year in conference play. Time for another six-game winning streak in the post-season.
1. If I remember correctly, the last half-game between RU and UConn was won by RU (2014, Knights outscored Huskies by one in the second half of their second conference game). It was the only half of the 2013-2014 season in which UConn was outscored.
2. RU had a six-game winning streak this season in OOC play and another six-game winning streak this year in conference play. Time for another six-game winning streak in the post-season.
It's not a gimme, but Seton Hall did not end the season well, either, with a loss to a DePaul team they'd beaten twice already. And Seton Hall had 4 losses worse than RU's loss to Michigan State - its worst loss of the year.
agree plus they have a major chip on their shoulder
do we know the status of Hollivay or Davis...if either are out, SHU is going to win that game
Agreed. An 8 seed ALWAYS will stink, and it's a fair seed. Teams normally want to be close to home. We are. The fact that the No. 1 team closest to us geographically just happens to be the overall No.1 and favorite to win the whole thing is at least partially coincidental.
To put it another way, if UConn was the weakest No. 1 seed, we still would belong here. They do like to keep teams somewhat close to home when it works out that way.
When the format allowed schools to bid on the first two rounds at play at home as a lower seed, and we got sent to Chattanooga or Spokane or wherever, THAT was a screwing. This is an unfortunate coincidence.
And the fact that Seton Hall, Connecticut and Rutgers were all in the same conference is a much better "reason" for this than "We want to screw Rutgers."
Don't want to get screwed? Don't deserve an 8 seed. And I can't argue that they don't.
I haven't been talking about what seed RU deserved, but it's worth mentioning that the final RPI was 43, which is equivalent to an 11 seed. I'd been worrying about the RPI and its impact on the seed for a while. An 8 actually isn't too bad, considering.
What I hate is how the tournament committee assigns teams to regions. It's as if all they care about is minimizing travel expenses.
What I hate is how the tournament committee assigns teams to regions. It's as if all they care about is minimizing travel expenses.
I have to agree with BeK. Princeton got screwed, I also think Dayton got screwed - 13 RPI and a 7 seed also in UConn's bracket and USF and Louisville got screwed. RU, not as much. I actually predicted that RU would be an 8 against Seton Hall in UConn's region, so while I am disappointed, I'm not surprised. I also fear that both Rachel and Essy are done for the season, so it really wouldn't matter much who we got matched up against. We will have difficulty beating most any team in the tournament without two of our starters. I hope I am wrong about the injuries, but I will be really surprised if at least Rachel isn't unable to play.
This Upside: This year we can complain how the Tourney committee treated RU.
Last year we didn't have that option.
As for the $500,000 bonus, think no one should complain if CVS earns it, at least I won't !!
It is a one time bonus, 4 year contract and if RU makes the Sweet 16 all 4 years, bonus only paid once.
Also only 2 years are guaranteed of that contract, so Vivian gave up guaranteed money along with accepting a
lower base pay ( around $300,000 a year) so between the reduction of wage and guaranteed money not for length of contract,
we shouldn't want to deny Stringer any that S-16 bonus money this year, if she gets to the Sweet 16 , and hope she makes it all 4 years of her contract.
Seems like anything good happens ( making tourney is a good thing, don't you think), Rutgers fans find things to get depressed about it and start complaining about everything under the sun, then complain about it not being out.
I'm happy RU is in after seeing some come up with reasons why the team might ( will?) be left out.
Tomorrow will be soon enough, for me, to find reasons why RU won't go far in tourney and how Seton Hall is a lock to win
Last year we didn't have that option.
As for the $500,000 bonus, think no one should complain if CVS earns it, at least I won't !!
It is a one time bonus, 4 year contract and if RU makes the Sweet 16 all 4 years, bonus only paid once.
Also only 2 years are guaranteed of that contract, so Vivian gave up guaranteed money along with accepting a
lower base pay ( around $300,000 a year) so between the reduction of wage and guaranteed money not for length of contract,
we shouldn't want to deny Stringer any that S-16 bonus money this year, if she gets to the Sweet 16 , and hope she makes it all 4 years of her contract.
Seems like anything good happens ( making tourney is a good thing, don't you think), Rutgers fans find things to get depressed about it and start complaining about everything under the sun, then complain about it not being out.
I'm happy RU is in after seeing some come up with reasons why the team might ( will?) be left out.
Tomorrow will be soon enough, for me, to find reasons why RU won't go far in tourney and how Seton Hall is a lock to win
I actually think UConn fans will root for us against Seton Hall because they want to see UConn destroy us.
A UConn-Rutgers matchup will certainly create some interest, even though the outcome (like the entire tournament) is pre-determined. Still, sad to know that we won't be making any reservations for a Sweet 16.
A UConn-Rutgers matchup will certainly create some interest, even though the outcome (like the entire tournament) is pre-determined. Still, sad to know that we won't be making any reservations for a Sweet 16.
I like that they created an interesting 1st rd match up round 2 see ya to whomever wins this one.
Speaking only for myself, I think it stinks as Amy said at the beginning -
No, we were NOT screwed on seed. That is on the team losing games, which I'm sure didn't want to lose, and some underperforming OOC teams.
But I'm not impressed with the committee putting 3 oBE teams in Storrs - we could have gone to South Carolina and let Syracuse go to Storrs, for example. Especially if we were moved a seed line.
I'm also not impressed with Chattanooga, who beat Tennessee early, getting a potential rematch in Knoxville. I'm not impressed with Miami - that beat Notre Dame - being particularly in the same region. And there were some other match-ups that, like ours and the others, can be defended by the geography argument but really look like they are match-ups that appealed to the committee.
But why it stinks is just because it does. I (personally) would be perfectly happy if Rutgers never had to play UConn again. Not because of losses, but because it is just unpleasant in my opinion.
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No, we were NOT screwed on seed. That is on the team losing games, which I'm sure didn't want to lose, and some underperforming OOC teams.
But I'm not impressed with the committee putting 3 oBE teams in Storrs - we could have gone to South Carolina and let Syracuse go to Storrs, for example. Especially if we were moved a seed line.
I'm also not impressed with Chattanooga, who beat Tennessee early, getting a potential rematch in Knoxville. I'm not impressed with Miami - that beat Notre Dame - being particularly in the same region. And there were some other match-ups that, like ours and the others, can be defended by the geography argument but really look like they are match-ups that appealed to the committee.
But why it stinks is just because it does. I (personally) would be perfectly happy if Rutgers never had to play UConn again. Not because of losses, but because it is just unpleasant in my opinion.
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I was initially pissed off when I saw the draw. Because we were ranked much of the year, I figured we had a good shot at a 6 or at least a 7 seed. Once I saw our RPI this morning, and read some of the explanations by bac and others, I'm OK with it. What worries me is all the talk about UCONN, in that game you're playing with house money - but you've got to get there first. I bet Seton Hall is looking forward to their first round matchup with RU.
After last year's WNIT game, I would guess the team will take Seton Hall pretty seriously, but you never know. I also wonder if Seton Hall will be in "just happy to be here" mode or will feel they have something to prove.
I just posted in the other thread, the link to the SHU reaction...me thinks they may end be too hyped to play Rutgers and gain revenge...I think RU has the experience from last years NIT run and the entire coaching staffs perspective to give to the players on playing in the NCAA tournament...RU will approach this more business like
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