Ticket Exchange Board - Personification of Donation Mentality?

[RUsojo]

I'll preface this by stating there is a market for giving away tickets last minute, trading tickets, and doing so with other Rutgers fans. That board serves its purpose in that regard.

However, most people on that board, it seems, just vulture around looking to pick up a yellow lot pass for $40 rather than pay fair market value. It's seems, this unwillingness to personally invest in Rutgers Football at an industry standard, carries over to our donating/fundraising mentality.

Maybe it's just me, but if I know I am going to a game, I'm going to commit my resources to doing so, rather than commit only with the caveat of discounted tickets.

This is not a criticism of the board itself. Just an observation. Have other people seen this mentality manifest itself in other areas of fandom or personal experiences?

Bash away.

 

[chrisru99]

I'll preface this by stating there is a market for giving away tickets last minute, trading tickets, and doing so with other Rutgers fans. That board serves its purpose in that regard.

However, most people on that board, it seems, just vulture around looking to pick up a yellow lot pass for $40 rather than pay fair market value. It's seems, this unwillingness to personally invest in Rutgers Football at an industry standard, carries over to our donating/fundraising mentality.

Maybe it's just me, but if I know I am going to a game, I'm going to commit my resources to doing so, rather than commit only with the caveat of discounted tickets.

This is not a criticism of the board itself. Just an observation. Have other people seen this mentality manifest itself in other areas of fandom or personal experiences?

Bash away.

Your spot on 100% prepare to be insulted by the mass small time fans that continue to keep this program down.

 

[rubigtimenow]

100% agree with you OP.
I hate the vulture aspect of that board!

 

[ATIOH]

This is not a criticism of the board itself. Just an observation.

You might not want to criticize that board, but I will. The ticket exchange board is bull $hit.

Part of my ticket group lives out of state, so we often have extras. We used to get rid of them on that board. It's still a last option, but we stopped after our first year in the B1G.

That year, we were selling way below market but making sure they were used by Rutgers fans. At least that's what we thought when selling to some high profile posters here.

I wanted to throw up when the tickets ended up in the hands of Penn State and Michigan fans.

 

[e5fdny]

Those are the rules of said Board.

There is nothing to stop you from using other means to take care of business.

 

[e5fdny]

Part of my ticket group lives out of state, so we often have extras. We used to get rid of them on that board. It's still a last option, but we stopped after our first year in the B1G.

That year, we were selling way below market but making sure they were used by Rutgers fans. At least that's what we thought when selling to some high profile posters here.

I wanted to throw up when the tickets ended up in the hands of Penn State and Michigan fans.

That is NOT cool and is worth a rant IMO. Not cool at all.

 

[PhilaPhans]

Your spot on 100% prepare to be insulted by the mass small time fans that continue to keep this program down.

Your rants are growing old on the board. If you want to criticize the lack of donations, you can do so in less insulting ways.

 

[PhilaPhans]

That year, we were selling way below market but making sure they were used by Rutgers fans. At least that's what we thought when selling to some high profile posters here. I wanted to throw up when the tickets ended up in the hands of Penn State and Michigan fans.

Interesting. Was it a situation where they had some out of town friends come in with them, or did they just straight up flip the tickets for $$$ to people they didn't know?

 

[e5fdny]

Interesting. Was it a situation where they had some out of town friends come in with them, or did they just straight up flip the tickets for $$$ to people they didn't know?

Yeah, I'd want to know that too.

The former is okay but not the latter.

 

[RU5781]

You might not want to criticize that board, but I will. The ticket exchange board is bull $hit.

Part of my ticket group lives out of state, so we often have extras. We used to get rid of them on that board. It's still a last option, but we stopped after our first year in the B1G.

That year, we were selling way below market but making sure they were used by Rutgers fans. At least that's what we thought when selling to some high profile posters here.

I wanted to throw up when the tickets ended up in the hands of Penn State and Michigan fans.

Name the posters. That is BS!!!!

 

[RUsojo]

Those are the rules of said Board.

There is nothing to stop you from using other means to take care of business.

Oh I do. Just speaking to the mentality of posters who fiend for below market cost.

 

[SHUSource]

However, most people on that board, it seems, just vulture around looking to pick up a yellow lot pass for $40 rather than pay fair market value. It's seems, this unwillingness to personally invest in Rutgers Football at an industry standard, carries over to our donating/fundraising mentality.

Don't forget that everyone in the stadium on a Saturday is invested in Rutgers football at a different level. You and many other posters here are all in - you buy the season tickets, the parking passes, and donate the amount of money you need to get the seats/lot that you want.

But there are also a lot of lurkers, or people looking to dip their foot into the pool of Rutgers football, who aren't all in - at least not yet - and that exchange board is a possible vessel through which they become more acquainted with the experience. So it makes sense that they're trying to get what they can for as little money as possible. Hell, even heavily invested fans might need an extra parking pass now and then, and since they are already secondary market items (that is, the money is not going to Rutgers Athletics), why not try to save a buck where you can?

I haven't really looked at that board the past few years, but I've bought and sold tickets and passes on it (at face value) and always had a good experience. But I might be looking at it differently than you are, too.

 

[rube1859]

I'll preface this by stating there is a market for giving away tickets last minute, trading tickets, and doing so with other Rutgers fans. That board serves its purpose in that regard.

However, most people on that board, it seems, just vulture around looking to pick up a yellow lot pass for $40 rather than pay fair market value. It's seems, this unwillingness to personally invest in Rutgers Football at an industry standard, carries over to our donating/fundraising mentality.

Maybe it's just me, but if I know I am going to a game, I'm going to commit my resources to doing so, rather than commit only with the caveat of discounted tickets.

This is not a criticism of the board itself. Just an observation. Have other people seen this mentality manifest itself in other areas of fandom or personal experiences?

Bash away.

I get the complaint, but at the same time, the board rules on that forum say they must be for face value and can't include donations. That's one of the caveats of using that particular service provided by the board. Also, you don't have to sell them to a person who only has 5 posts or 50 posts or even 100 posts if you think they are only using the board for $40 passes. If I had a pass, and even found out on a Tuesday it would be extra since someone dropped out and I wanted more than the $40, I'd go right to StubHub or EBay.

I say this as someone who has both paid more than face for passes on those other sites as well as face value from this one. I understand the desire to hopefully get the passes to an RU fan (which you can pretty much guarantee if you do through the forum) which one cannot guarantee on one of the other outlets.

I also say this as someone who was looking for one earlier this year, left my info, and then someone with five posts emailed me with no details. I simply responded along the lines of "hey, board rules are face value (and it was clear he found me on the board) and that's $40, let me know." I never received a response which was his prerogative, but obviously he chose not to read the rules above.

I don't think I'd bash anyone for what you posted, since I see the logic, but at the same time, everyone who posts on the ticket exchange board here knows what they are getting into.

 

[rube1859]

You might not want to criticize that board, but I will. The ticket exchange board is bull $hit.

Part of my ticket group lives out of state, so we often have extras. We used to get rid of them on that board. It's still a last option, but we stopped after our first year in the B1G.

That year, we were selling way below market but making sure they were used by Rutgers fans. At least that's what we thought when selling to some high profile posters here.

I wanted to throw up when the tickets ended up in the hands of Penn State and Michigan fans.

And those last two paragraphs are points I completely agree with on this topic.

 

[seels2662]

If you are looking to make money, then go on stub hub. If you want the pass to go to Rutgers fans, then go there. If someone needs a yellow lot pass they can go to stub hub themselves. I'm missing the point of why its a big deal. Did someone snap a comment at you or something?

Just today I IMed someone for Michigan tickets that I was willing to pay face or a little above. He said he couldn't because he needed to recuperate some of his losses. No big deal, I thanked him and that was it.

 

[e5fdny]

Oh I do. Just speaking to the mentality of posters who fiend for below market cost.

Agree.

And I have been helped out many times in the past for my Dad by Board regulars.

The visiting fan thing though is annoying.

Somebody said on here the other day (which I agreed with) with regard to parking we should send them to the RAC and then invite them to tailgate with you. But not mention or offer Johnson Park or our own Lots.

 

[PhilaPhans]

John would have to chime in on if there are any legal restrictions to turning the board into a for sale board. I just know these are situations that we do not want to get into. We don't want to turn this into a place where people can get taken advantage of. The easiest way to do that is restrict things to face value.

 

[MrsScrew]

you could always use the new Rutgers Fan exchange site. It was made specifically for Rutgers tickets and Rutgers gets a percentage of the profit.

Rutgers Fan Exchange

 

[RUsojo]

If you are looking to make money, then go on stub hub. If you want the pass to go to Rutgers fans, then go there. If someone needs a yellow lot pass they can go to stub hub themselves. I'm missing the point of why its a big deal. Did someone snap a comment at you or something?

Just today I IMed someone for Michigan tickets that I was willing to pay face or a little above. He said he couldn't because he needed to recuperate some of his losses. No big deal, I thanked him and that was it.

Again, just noting the mentality. More often than not that board is full of posters requesting face for the big games and below face for weak OOC and weak in conference matchups.

No one ever goes, hey can I pay face for those $120 ticket for Howard? So you can't tell me the market isn't at play. It's inherently apparent.

 

[MGSA99]

I may need the ticket exchange board later this season, at least I hope to. Any way, you can trust those tickets in the hands of this alum. I recently flew my Rutgers flag to last weekend's Clemson game and was probably the only one who did so.

 

[ATIOH]

The tix were flipped as far as we could tell. A couple in our group went to war back then. I'm over it. Well not really as you can see from my post, but I'm mostly over it.

I recommend using the official Rutgers site, which generates cash for the university. https://rutgersfanexchange.com/

 

[e5fdny]

The tix were flipped as far as we could tell. A couple in our group went to war back then. I'm over it. Well not really as you can see from my post, but I'm mostly over it.

Years ago somebody in my Dad's group (6 guys that went back to the Polo Grounds) at Giants Stadium did this. They were never offered extras for "friends" after that. I was a kid at the time but remember it being a BIG deal for years.

 

[Schmurg]

nevermind misinterpreted post.

 

[PhilaPhans]

If you want to use the Rutgers ticket exchange, that's more than fine. We don't make money off of transactions that may come from this board. The original reason we set up the ticket board was to just get that stuff off of the main boards. It's a lot easier to ignore those threads than people consistently bumping their own threads on the round table or football board.

Plus in most situations it may help somebody pick up or get rid of a ticket and help out another fan.

 

[PhilaPhans]

Mentality or rules of the board? Rules state that you can not sell for above face even when factoring in the donations. So, to me, if people are selling tickets on the site why would I, as a buyer, not assume that you are selling tickets at face? Why would I offer someone above face on a board where it is assumed you are selling at face?

To me, it is more a statement about you than the board. If you don't want to sell at face than don't post on that board trying to sell.

I think he means that people are looking to get their tickets as cheap as possible instead of, say, buying the ticket through RU (with whatever fees attached) or buy their own season tickets, which may come with a donation. I think it's a legit discussion on donation willingness as long as it stays away from reactions of certain posters.

 

[Schmurg]

I think he means that people are looking to get their tickets as cheap as possible instead of, say, buying the ticket through RU (with whatever fees attached) or buy their own season tickets, which may come with a donation. I think it's a legit discussion on donation willingness as long as it stays away from reactions of certain posters.

Got it. Re-read and see what you mean now. Amended my post to not have it go off the rails.

 

[ATIOH]

Does anyone remember a poster with a handle like George Barron something?

He wrote on the football board that he had extra tix maybe 15 or 16 years ago. I think my first post was asking for them.

I was able to take a group of my friends to the season finale that year. Everyone had a blast and I literally spent the whole time pushing for us to get season tix. It worked and during some years, the group swelled to over 30 strong.

I credit most of it to that guy who gave a first time poster free (!!!!) tickets. I thanked him then, but never got a chance to let him know the impact he had later on. That's why I've generally paid it forward.

On second thought, I generally had good experiences with the ticket board outside of B1G and some WVU games. I guess IMO it works better for lower demand games.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Part of being in a big-time conference is that more of us have friends who went to the schools we are playing, so it makes sense that some of the tickets or parking passes would be for friends of those on the board who went to other schools. A friend of mine who went to Iowa contacted me yesterday to ask me which lot is the best one for tailgating. John has been to several Rutgers games with me, as Rutgers is his second-favorite team and he roots hard for us. I told him the Yellow Lot is the best lot for what he was looking to do, and as I was thinking about trying to get a parking pass for him off of the RU Parking Pass Exchange board, he texted me that he gotten one off of StubHub. It is something we have to grow into as fans, that there is a range of acceptability of getting tickets and/or parking passes for opposing teams. @huskersalways treated several of us to wonderful seats when we went to the Nebraska game, and our fanbase has to learn to do the same thing and that it is part of what makes these competitions have added value for all of us.

The caveats to this are not taking advantage of buying from the Rutgers board to turn around and make a profit, and not selling premium-seat locations to the opposition if you don't know them. In basketball I have seats that I could never allow the opposition to sit in unless I had invited them to the game to be with me, and only if I know they are classy people. A friend of mine who sits on Villanova's BOT came to the RU-'Nova game, and he was of course completely respectful (even when J-Mitch completed the 4-point play to win that game) the entire time. And I would have no problem giving those seats to some like Huskers or @Southern Gentleman even if I wasn't there, simply because their decorum far exceeds many of our own fans'.

 

[rube1859]

Again, just noting the mentality. More often than not that board is full of posters requesting face for the big games and below face for weak OOC and weak in conference matchups.

No one ever goes, hey can I pay face for those $120 ticket for Howard? So you can't tell me the market isn't at play. It's inherently apparent.

Oh, I would never ask to buy something less than face on the board, weak team or not. If someone offers less, and I need it, I'll seek it, but I don't think one should be trying to scavenge cheapies all the times.

For example, I needed an extra pass this weekend, and someone was selling it with the two tickets (total, way below face). I didn't need the tickets, but was completely willing to buy them and just have two extra tickets since it was: A) such a good deal; B) I didn't feel right asking him to split the pass off since he clearly wanted to sell both together; and C) it never hurts to have extra tickets since our tailgates can be as big as 55-60 folks and someone always needs extras. I then found out there was no need for an extra pass so I never contacted the person (so hopefully someone else does because it was a great deal!).

 

[rutgerstruefan]

The ticket board is what it is.

Every year, I donate and purchase multiple tickets for football and basketball. While I nearly attend every game, it is also tough to manage all the tickets I have for various games (along with parking passes). My family and friends cannot commit to every game and people with kids do not know their plans until the week of or when the game time is decided. On any given game I can have up to 15-20 people going or just 2-4 people.

Certain games like Michigan and Penn State, I have to offer on StubHub because the difference between $55 vs $200 is big. Especially when you have to take hits on games like Howard and New Mexico where you can hardly give away sometimes (unless you have good parking to go with it).

What I find more interesting is that Rutgers can sell them at dynamic pricing levels and we are expected to sell them at the pre-sale season ticket prices on the board. If the message board was allow to sell at the level of Rutgers dynamic pricing than I believe that would be fair. In the end, tickets are going to trade wherever the fair market value is. The more money that is left with our fans than with services like StubHub and others benefits Rutgers in the end. I wish rutgersfanexchange was the answer but I do not think it is. Stubhub is a much better site and provides a lot more services that comforts its users. Yes, it sucks that the total spread is 30% but i believe the spread is 25% for rutgersfanexchange.

Over the years, I have found the ticket message board here to be helpful in buying, selling, and trading tickets. I have dealt with some people numerous times and everyone seems to be straight. I do not blame people for trying to get cheap tickets for games if that is what the current market price is. What I do get annoyed with is people trying to get well below market prices from sellers or trades that are very lopsided.

 

[seels2662]

Again, just noting the mentality. More often than not that board is full of posters requesting face for the big games and below face for weak OOC and weak in conference matchups.

No one ever goes, hey can I pay face for those $120 ticket for Howard? So you can't tell me the market isn't at play. It's inherently apparent.

Yeah but if you want market for it than go to the market. If you want to sell tickets to RU fans you know then sell it there. If people there don't want it at $120 then either sell it for less or go to the market. Its not that big a deal, unless someone is actually saying something to you about your price. Do you expect to make money on a site for fans?

 

[DHajekRC84]

If you are looking to make money, then go on stub hub. If you want the pass to go to Rutgers fans, then go there. If someone needs a yellow lot pass they can go to stub hub themselves. I'm missing the point of why its a big deal. Did someone snap a comment at you or something?

Just today I IMed someone for Michigan tickets that I was willing to pay face or a little above. He said he couldn't because he needed to recuperate some of his losses. No big deal, I thanked him and that was it.

and if more folks were like you on this board it would be a much better forum. And I appreciate you didn't come out and reference me and create the wrong perception. But I'll out myself because I use that site much and I can share a POV. In this specific case you reached out to me after I responded to another poster looking for tickets. (Which is just fine if you ask me as I am not complaining. I just want to be clear to folks I wasn't listing my UM tickets there) The OP ask was from somebody saying he knew he had to pay more but would rather not buy from a broker and I knew I could save him a bunch too. I didn't post mine there because I know the rules.

I have others at or below but not the UM ones. And the reason is just like I said and the post right above...EATING a bunch of others and I just need to level it out a bit.

I think it a shame that RU can sell the same tix for $125 plus fees and Market is like $150+ and I can't even list mine for $80-100...which helps me offset cost and saves another RU fan some cash and I know it goes to an RU fan ..cause I do the homework...but them the rules.

I will also say I get some of this topic here. You'd be amazed (or not) at some of the emails and offers I get... just ridicules. I would rather give them away (and sometimes do just that).

The RU fan exchange is a good idea but not well known by general public and has many "quirts" to work out.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

I've become a fan of Seats of Dreams, a Manhattan-based org that uses donated tickets for deserving kids from disadvantaged backgrounds and pairs them with a Big Brother/Sister chaperone. I transfer unused tickets to them. See: http://seatsofdreams.org/

 

[DHajekRC84]

I've become a fan of Seats of Dreams, a Manhattan-based org that uses donated tickets for deserving kids from disadvantaged backgrounds and pairs them with a Big Brother/Sister chaperone. I transfer unused tickets to them. See: http://seatsofdreams.org/

thanks for sharing. always appreciate a good cause..

 

[rutgerstruefan]

I've become a fan of Seats of Dreams, a Manhattan-based org that uses donated tickets for deserving kids from disadvantaged backgrounds and pairs them with a Big Brother/Sister chaperone. I transfer unused tickets to them. See: http://seatsofdreams.org/

do you usually transfer the tickets to their email address?

 

[RUinPinehurst]

do you usually transfer the tickets to their email address?

Sort of. Make contact at Seats of Dreams and you'll likely hear back from Kevin Hogan. You basically go to the Rutgers ticket site, log in, and transfer the tickets electronically, plugging in Kevin's contact info. You'll get an email confirmation. And then the RU ticket app will route PDFs of your tickets to Kevin via email. There is a $5 transfer charge by RU.

 

[rutgerstruefan]

Sort of. Make contact at Seats of Dreams and you'll likely hear back from Kevin Hogan. You basically go to the Rutgers ticket site, log in, and transfer the tickets electronically, plugging in Kevin's contact info. You'll get an email confirmation. And then the RU ticket app will route PDFs of your tickets to Kevin via email. There is a $5 transfer charge by RU.

thanks

 

[Rutgers85]

Speaking as one of the "vultures", why shouldn't I try to get the cheapest ticket I can? I've paid face and also gotten great deals. It never hurts to ask for a lower price. You never know. One man's vulture is another man's savior (at least he'll get some money). In fact, I will be trying to "vulturize" 5 tickets to Iowa. Simple supply and demand.

 

[RUsojo]

Yeah but if you want market for it than go to the market. If you want to sell tickets to RU fans you know then sell it there. If people there don't want it at $120 then either sell it for less or go to the market. Its not that big a deal, unless someone is actually saying something to you about your price. Do you expect to make money on a site for fans?

I'm only acknowledging that mentality and questioning its effect on donations. Sheesh.

 

[RUsojo]

Speaking as one of the "vultures", why shouldn't I try to get the cheapest ticket I can? I've paid face and also gotten great deals. It never hurts to ask for a lower price. You never know. One man's vulture is another man's savior (at least he'll get some money). In fact, I will be trying to "vulturize" 5 tickets to Iowa. Simple supply and demand.

Well no it's the opposite of supply in demand in many cases. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, just that if someone does it, are they more likely to have a cheap donating habit. Seems like a possibility.