Transfers within a school "system"

[PhilaPhans]

This is going to be the dumbest question I've probably asked today, but what happens in various sports if a kid wants to transfer from, say, Rutgers-Newark to Rutgers-New Brunswick for sports?

Do the mandatory sitting out periods still always apply, since he's still at Rutgers?

Same for Cal-UCLA, etc, although they share a conference so it's a bit different.

And correct me if I'm wrong, aren't there majors or grad degrees where some students have to go to different campuses (NB/Cam/New) to take classes. Or did that change when we moved some professional schools around recently?

 

[AntiG]

i believe since they are in different football divisions, they wouldn't have to sit out.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Since RU-Newark is D3, they can play right away.

 

[HeavenUniv.]

Phila,
I am 99% sure athletes transferring from Division three or two do not have to sit out. hadn't ever heard about Rutgers students taking classes at more than one campus,but I do know of some cases--ex. Rutgers Business School and School of Nursing where they are considered "based" at Newark and New Brunswick.

 

[PhilaPhans]

Yeah, I think it was the business school that I was thinking of. Somebody could clarify that some of the classes in certain concentrations had to be taken at Newark or something. Or maybe I'm just making this up.

If a kid went from RU-NB to RU-Camden, they could play right away. I'm wondering Camden to New Brunswick, though, and only because they're the same school system. I mean, I doubt it since that would open a massive can of worms for say, Penn State with its 78 campuses and the possibility of developing some sort of minor league college system for the University Park campus sports programs.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

As far as taking classes, Some graduate schools offer classes in different campuses. That must be what you are thinking.

 

[RU1993]

i believe since they are in different football divisions, they wouldn't have to sit out.

I don't think Newark has a football team

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Believe the Generic answer is - If they function as two unique and independent D1 entities - each with unique individual institution numbers in the NCAA system - it would be as though they were legally separate institutions - so if a player transferred from University of Alabama to UAB - D1 to D1 - the fact that they are under the same state system umbrella makes no difference - the athlete is moving from one NCAA recognized program to another NCAA recognized program - sit out unless given some sort of waiver
and regardless of institutional connections -
If moving from D1 to D2 or D3 the sit-out rules are not applied

 

[e5fdny]

This is going to be the dumbest question I've probably asked today...

It's only three o'clock. ;)

 

[PhilaPhans]

Haha. Tell me about it! It's almost Friday, right?

 

[RUfinal4]

Believe the Generic answer is - If they function as two unique and independent D1 entities - each with unique individual institution numbers in the NCAA system - it would be as though they were legally separate institutions - so if a player transferred from University of Alabama to UAB - D1 to D1 - the fact that they are under the same state system umbrella makes no difference - the athlete is moving from one NCAA recognized program to another NCAA recognized program - sit out unless given some sort of waiver
and regardless of institutional connections -
If moving from D1 to D2 or D3 the sit-out rules are not applied

Imagine if that were allowed.

You would have schools like UCLA or Texas plucking kids who over perform after a couple of years at the state schools in a G5 conference.

- You can see kids go from Cal to UCLA or vica versa
- in the Florida State system it includes FSI, UF, UCF, USF, FAU, and FIU. So you know it would allow Florida and FSU to pluck the best kids from the other schools every couple of years.

 

[retired711]

I don't think Newark has a football team

Neither does Camden, but of course Camden and Newark both have basketball teams, and so the issue could occur for that sport. I know Camden is Division 3; I'm not sure about Newark.

 

[touchyfeely]

This is a different sport, but Duncan Robinson transferred from D-III Williams College to Michigan and had to sit out a year.

 

[late knight]

A transfer up in level has to sit. Otherwise D1 would mine the best from the lower levels.

 

[knights1212]

I thought an athlete could be eligible going from D-1 to D-3 but had to sit out a year if going from D-3 to D-1 but I might be wrong.

 

[Upstream]

Believe the Generic answer is - If they function as two unique and independent D1 entities - each with unique individual institution numbers in the NCAA system - it would be as though they were legally separate institutions - so if a player transferred from University of Alabama to UAB - D1 to D1 - the fact that they are under the same state system umbrella makes no difference - the athlete is moving from one NCAA recognized program to another NCAA recognized program - sit out unless given some sort of waiver
and regardless of institutional connections -

This is the correct answer.

An athlete transferring from UNC-Charlotte to UNC-Chapel Hill has to sit. An athlete transferring from Rutgers-Newark to Rutgers-New Brunswick has to sit.

But an athlete transferring from Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences (Cook) to Rutgers Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy does not have to sit because both schools are under the umbrella of Rutgers New Brunswick and therefore part of the same school for NCAA purposes.

Complicating the matter would be the Rutgers School of Business which operates in Newark and New Brunswick. A Rutgers Business student with residency in Newark, who participates on a Newark athletic team would have to sit if he were to move to residency in New Brunswick and join a New Brunswick athletic team. For NCAA purposes, his residency change and move from a Newark team to a New Brunswick team would be a transfer from one NCAA school to another.

 

[RU23]

This is the correct answer.

An athlete transferring from UNC-Charlotte to UNC-Chapel Hill has to sit. An athlete transferring from Rutgers-Newark to Rutgers-New Brunswick has to sit.

But an athlete transferring from Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences (Cook) to Rutgers Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy does not have to sit because both schools are under the umbrella of Rutgers New Brunswick and therefore part of the same school for NCAA purposes.

Complicating the matter would be the Rutgers School of Business which operates in Newark and New Brunswick. A Rutgers Business student with residency in Newark, who participates on a Newark athletic team would have to sit if he were to move to residency in New Brunswick and join a New Brunswick athletic team. For NCAA purposes, his residency change and move from a Newark team to a New Brunswick team would be a transfer from one NCAA school to another.

I remember wondering this when Rutgers-Camden had an elite D3 soccer player and our team wasn't doing so hot, thought there was no way he couldn't help us.