Was the 2024 Rutgers Football regular season a successful one?

[RU in IM]

Weird stalker move , but yes I did bet the over 6.5 wins on FanDuel back in August.

lol, what’s “weird is that you expected 7 wins, we got 7 wins, then you conclude it wasn’t a successful season. Not stalking, just an observation. I was reviewing predictions to see how everyone did in their predictions and noticed an obvious inconsistency.

 

[yesrutgers01]

6 wins would be a disappointing but not horrible season. 7 wins is what should have been expected and to get there with our injuries- makes it successful but not more than that.
The 8-10 floor guys pre season- none of us are sure what you were smoking.
Though, the way AK, Strong, Duff ended the last quarter of a season showed a lot and can get you excited for next year if both WRs stay.

 

[ScarletKid2008]

my view is ..

This season was respectable. The result was respectable and what we hope is a baseline going forward.

Compared to the last decade .. yes 7 wins is a success .

But we didn’t really change the trajectory of the program in any meaningful way or the perception around it in the general public eyes. Meaning we lost our games to all the traditional blue blood brand schools . We didn’t beat any ranked teams (and still hold a disgusting streak in that regard) .

So is success just making a bowl game ? I guess in some ways yes.

Or is it more about the program growing and reaching the next step ? And what is the next step and how big is it ?

Is it attracting more season tix ?
Is it getting more media/fan attention or aka “juice” so that we become a desired destination for both recruits and prospective students (aka increase in applications )?
Is it making a certain tier of bowl ?
Is it making it to the conference championship? CFP playoff?

I have my own personal answers and hopes but success can be defined in a lot of ways

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

I was going to be happy with any outcome this season that resulted in a positive forward looking outlook.

I don’t see how anyone can reflect on this season and not feel good about our progress. The bottom line is we lost the heart and soul of our D before the season even started. Nobody was predicting us as a dark horse without Mo in the mix all other injuries aside. And that was far from the only major injury on D.

During that stretch with the UCLA loss our D resembled a MAC caliber D talent wise. The irony it that the disappointment was that if we even played to MaC level ability that probably would’ve been good enough at least for UclA because the offense was actually good enough to beat them. Our coaches did not do a great job of piecing together utility player bandaids during that stretch to form a cohesive unit. We couldn’t stop anyone. Then we got a few guys back and a week to regroup and figured things out. Credit them for that.

So ok - the record doesn’t reflect the magic season we hoped for but l can’t recall another season in a very long time where our offense steadily improved throughout the season like ours did on a team slated to return its starting QB along with 2 solid wide outs. Kyle graduates but we have. Solid RB group slated to return too. Nobody should be unhappy with our current positioning.

 

[DHajekRC84]

I've been thinking about that since yesterday's game (MSU). We had a rash of injuries to a few key areas which hurt, which played a hand in our 4 game losing streak midseason. And I feel coaching was a factor in that losing streak, particularly the Nebraska and UCLA games. However, even with the mounting list of injuries, we walked out of that with a victory against a good team, Minnesota, and ended the season going 3-1 in our last 4 games.

That last fact is huge, as we have had a middling to putrid record in November and December games. I put together our history in the Big 10 for this period, plus the preceding 5 years, to really put this in perspective:

2009 - 2-2
2010 - 0-4
2011 - 3-1
2012 - 2-2
2013 - 2-3

Big 10
2014 - 2-2 (2-2 B10)
2015 - 1-3 (0-3 B10)
2016 - 0-4 (0-4 B10)
2017 - 1-3 (1-3 B10)
2018 - 0-4 (0-4 B10)
2019 - 0-4 (0-4 B10)
2020 - 2-5 (2-5 B10) * Covid Year
2021 - 1-3 (1-3 B10)
2022 - 0-4 (0-4 B10)
2023 - 0-4 (0-4 B10)
2024 - 3-1 (3-1 B10)

So in that time period, after October 31st we have never won more than 2 games to end a season. We have always seemed to stagger to the end of the season just looking for it to end. To paraphrase: "The on field beatings will continue until the season is over." This year was different. We chopped up to the last game and turned in our first winning regular season record since 2014.

So, yes, this was a successful season for the Rutgers Football program. I am proud of our team and wish all the graduating seniors success and happiness in their new life as a Rutgers Alumni.

Edit: had 2-0 for 2011, it was actually 3-1.

NOT disagreeing with your overall thought here..just adding one consideration.

2023 play OSU, Iowa, PSU. Mary last 4
2022 Mich, MSU, Psu, Mary
2021 Wisky, Indy, PSU, Mary
2020 7 games after 31st but last 4 Purdue, PSU, Mary, Nebby

Winning the Bowl and going 4-1 to finish is really great..and man does it kill me we could have finished 5-0..

I'm also on the positive by the slime margin right now. Win the Bowl to go 8-5 and it goes solid green (not bright).

 

[fluoxetine]

lol, what’s “weird is that you expected 7 wins, we got 7 wins, then you conclude it wasn’t a successful season. Not stalking, just an observation. I was reviewing predictions to see how everyone did in their predictions and noticed an obvious inconsistency.

I don't think that logic works. If I expected the team to go 2-10, and then they went 2-10, it doesn't follow that I think going 2-10 was a success.

 

[RU in IM]

I don't think that logic works. If I expected the team to go 2-10, and then they went 2-10, it doesn't follow that I think going 2-10 was a success.

I agree with you if 2-10 was his expectation and we went 2-10, but that wasn’t the situation.

 

[thegock]

Two of the "no" votes were by our regular troll(s) with brand new user names. Must be cold in mom's basement...

 

[fluoxetine]

I agree with you if 2-10 was his expectation and we went 2-10, but that wasn’t the situation.

The same logic could apply to 7-5 though if 7-5 doesn't meet your definition of a successful season. It's not the 2-10 or 7-5 I'm commenting on here, it's that I don't think:
The season met your preseason expectation THEREFORE you should think the season was successful
is proper logic.

 

[RU in IM]

The same logic could apply to 7-5 though if 7-5 doesn't meet your definition of a successful season. It's not the 2-10 or 7-5 I'm commenting on here, it's that I don't think:
The season met your preseason expectation THEREFORE you should think the season was successful
is proper logic.

Relax with the caps. Initially he expected 7, but after season ended, he says he expected 8-10.

 

[fluoxetine]

Relax with the caps. Initially he expected 7, but after season ended, he says he expected 8-10.

The caps are just for EMPHASIS man, and I will use them HOW I PLEASE.

Okay, that part is fair.

 

[DJ Spanky]

Two of the "no" votes were by our regular troll(s) with brand new user names. Must be cold in mom's basement...

More than two.

 

[fluoxetine]

@MSUisGonnaCrushUs so much for that one.

 

[fsg2]

I don't think that logic works. If I expected the team to go 2-10, and then they went 2-10, it doesn't follow that I think going 2-10 was a success.

It absolutely works in the example of a winning season, especially since OP redefined his original "expectations."

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

I judge success by the volume of noise at Rutgers stadium.

And volume is at ear-splitting, mind-numbing, teeth-gnashing, head-for-the-exit level volume knob at 11 levels.

Success

 

[Plum Street]

@JayDogSmooth you never answered the question

 

[LotusAggressor]

6 wins would be a disappointing but not horrible season. 7 wins is what should have been expected and to get there with our injuries- makes it successful but not more than that.
The 8-10 floor guys pre season- none of us are sure what you were smoking.
Though, the way AK, Strong, Duff ended the last quarter of a season showed a lot and can get you excited for next year if both WRs stay.

It will be especially exciting if the coaches don't wait until all the RBs are hurt before making them part of the game plan.

 

[JayDogSmooth]

@JayDogSmooth you never answered the question

Regular season with all injures, how we closed snd how recruiting is going, yes id consider it successful

 

[zappaa]

Wait , just want to be clear…..you want to see the result of an exhibition game before you can call out greatest season ever in the BIG a success ??

You have to be brain dead to not clearly recognize the momentum and positivity our bowl win gave us last year.
The buzz around this team all summer and the start of camp was catapulted by defeating a depleted Miami team…. Like it or not.
Your constant references to our bowl game as a meaningless exhibition is nothing but an attention grabbing attempt you know will trigger responses.

I’m sure our players who do plan on playing their hearts out to win, will be inspired by “it’s just a meaningless exhibition”

 

[Plum Street]

You have to be brain dead to not clearly recognize the momentum and positivity our bowl win gave us last year.
The buzz around this team all summer and the start of camp was catapulted by defeating a depleted Miami team…. Like it or not.
Your constant references to our bowl game as a meaningless exhibition is nothing but an attention grabbing attempt you know will trigger responses.

I’m sure our players who do plan on playing their hearts out to win, will be inspired by “it’s just a meaningless exhibition”

lol did you read the thread ??
The question and poll by the original poster was simply

“Was the 2024 Rutgers Football regular season a successful one?”​

The thread has nothing to do about the upcoming bowl game . So it was an absurd answer by @JayDogSmooth (who is usually a good poster).

 

[JayDogSmooth]

lol did you read the thread ??
The question and poll by the original poster was simply

“Was the 2024 Rutgers Football regular season a successful one?”​

The thread has nothing to do about the upcoming bowl game . So it was an absurd answer by @JayDogSmooth (who is usually a good poster).

Question posed and reality are two different things - bowl games matter (obviously depends on which one and how the season went come etc. to determine how much) but I stated, with all the injuries I would consider it successful, as I would assume (possibly naively) that without them, we couldve/would’ve had one or two more wins

 

[gigantor1024]

Army just did something Greg Schiano has never done and never will

 

[Plum Street]

Army just did something Greg Schiano has never done and never will

Beat Tulane ?

 

[Rutgers NJ]

After being 4-4 with a host of injuries and pull the season out of the shitter to finish 7-5 I feel was Greg's best job in the Big Ten if not ever here on the Banks.

 

[satnom]

Successful in the sense that RU has one more win than last season, overcame a long list of injuries in first half of season to finish strong, Bowl eligibility, Kirk letting the offense be truly balanced and letting the pass game be a viable threat, AK and wr corp playing at a high level and the emergence of next wave of defensive playmakers and Greg steering the ship to make sure its steadily advancing [people forget that Greg knows how a championship caliber team is supposed to look like as former DC of Miami and Ohio State national teams (not in it just to be a participant)].

Disappointing in some sense because this team could have easily been a nine win team and playing in the Citrus or Music City bowl and finished a solid Top 5-6 BIG team.

Bottom line the RU program advanced from last season and not standing still on going further.

GO RU

 

[NickRU714]

You have to be brain dead to not clearly recognize the momentum and positivity our bowl win gave us last year.
The buzz around this team all summer and the start of camp was catapulted by defeating a depleted Miami team…. Like it or not.
Your constant references to our bowl game as a meaningless exhibition is nothing but an attention grabbing attempt you know will trigger responses.

I’m sure our players who do plan on playing their hearts out to win, will be inspired by “it’s just a meaningless exhibition”

Does the opposite occur?
If we happen to lose our upcoming bowl game - does that mean next year will start with negative momentum and we’re more likely to struggle to start the year?

 

[Plum Street]

Does the opposite occur?
If we happen to lose our upcoming bowl game - does that mean next year will start with negative momentum and we’re more likely to struggle to start the year?

No need to ask @zappaa .
I did this analysis last year before the Bowl
Here is the thread

Does winning or losing the bowl game carry over ?

It appears it doesn’t matter much the next season . The Plum analysis : 2006 – Previous season lose to Arizona State in bowl game. 2006 was a great and historic season. 2007 – Previous season beat Kansas State in bowl game. 2007 starts with wins over 3 cupcakes. Team stumbles as competition...

rutgers.forums.rivals.com

 

[zappaa]

Does the opposite occur?
If we happen to lose our upcoming bowl game - does that mean next year will start with negative momentum and we’re more likely to struggle to start the year?

The positive press and momentum from a win won’t be there….
OBVIOUSLY no one has any idea of what the future brings

 

[NickRU714]

Who said that?

Were you not trying to attribute a positive impact on this season from the win over Miami?

If so, then it would sense that negative impact would occur if we lose our next bowl game.

My opinion: While not necessarily meaningless for the current season (it’s still a game and nobody really wants to end on a loss), there is no impact on the following season regarding winning or losing a bowl game.

 

[zappaa]

No need to ask @zappaa .
I did this analysis last year before the Bowl
Here is the thread

Does winning or losing the bowl game carry over ?

It appears it doesn’t matter much the next season . The Plum analysis : 2006 – Previous season lose to Arizona State in bowl game. 2006 was a great and historic season. 2007 – Previous season beat Kansas State in bowl game. 2007 starts with wins over 3 cupcakes. Team stumbles as competition...

rutgers.forums.rivals.com

Lol
King of meaningless analytics and analysis.
Typical beat writer stuff

 

[zappaa]

Were you not trying to attribute a positive impact on this season from the win over Miami?

If so, then it would sense that negative impact would occur if we lose our next bowl game.

My opinion: While not necessarily meaningless for the current season (it’s still a game and nobody really wants to end on a loss), there is no impact on the following season regarding winning or losing a bowl game.

Whatever you say, I’m guessing you have a lot of experience .
Loosing has no impact…okey dokie

 

[NickRU714]

Whatever you say, I’m guessing you have a lot of experience .
Loosing has no impact…okey dokie

Correct, I don't.
I'll pose you the question.

If you lost the game of the season or maybe struck out the last at bat, would you go into next season with a negative attitude?
Spend all off-season worrying about that failure to end the season or looking towards next season positively?

 

[NickRU714]

Basketball team ended last season about as badly as possible.
Is that why we lost to KS?

 

[zappaa]

Correct, I don't.
I'll pose you the question.

If you lost the game of the season or maybe struck out the last at bat, would you go into next season with a negative attitude?
Spend all off-season worrying about that failure to end the season or looking towards next season positively?

I’d be a lot more confident if I went 4 for 4 and our young 4th starter threw a shutout.
I know our win against Miami was beneficial for the program

 

[NickRU714]

I’d be a lot more confident if I went 4 for 4 and our young 4th starter threw a shutout.
I know our win against Miami was beneficial for the program

Thanks for proving the point by not answering.

Simple question: if you had a winning season but went 0-4 and the team got blown out in the last game, do you go into next season with a negative? It seems the answer is no you wouldn't?

Never said it wasn't beneficial.
Specifically said it wasn't meaningless.
However, it's impact on the subsequent season is minimal at best.
HC Schiano frequently preaches "don't let last weeks loss impact this week".
If you told him a loss 6 months ago is impacting the season, he'd likely lose his sh@t and blame himself for it.

 

[zappaa]

Thanks for proving the point by not answering.

Simple question: if you had a winning season but went 0-4 and the team got blown out in the last game, do you go into next season with a negative? It seems the answer is no you wouldn't?

Never said it wasn't beneficial.
Specifically said it wasn't meaningless.
However, it's impact on the subsequent season is minimal at best.
HC Schiano frequently preaches "don't let last weeks loss impact this week".
If you told him a loss 6 months ago is impacting the season, he'd likely lose his sh@t and blame himself for it.

My simple answer is I think positive perception, momentum and confidence from a win is beneficial… Period End Nick.

I never said or made any references a win does anything for on field results next year.

 

[yessir321]

The feeling I get more than anything from this season... "What could have been if we only had a coach who had any talent in game day coaching and making in game adjustments". I'm happy to be out of the dumpster absolutely, I also know this is the easiest schedule we will ever see in this conference, we have a lot of talent we're losing, and once again we lack the top 25 win.

Overall grade for 2024: C+

 

[yesrutgers01]

Army just did something Greg Schiano has never done and never will

During 1.0 BE- Greg did have to play WVU/L’vill who were both VERY good teams. UConn was even good, USF had high rankings, Cincy was usually good.
Do you really the AAC compares?