Flood's record with the same team this year. Assuming we lose today and go 2-10 under Ash, my guess is that Flood would have won 4-5 games. He would have won Howard and New Mexico St. I think he would have also won 2 of the 3 games between Illinois, Minnesota and Indiana.
What would have been...
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I actually agree with you on this one.
These folks need to stop acting like petulant children and realize we are in rebuild mode.
Yes plus they can't let go of flood and all the what ifs.
I'll play. Yes I think he beats Howard, NMS, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois and maybe Indiana. With a little luck he would have finished 6-6, definitely 5-7. In the end the administration decided to go in a different direction. I wonder if AD Hobbs asked Coach Ash if he was going to run the Pro-Set or the Power Spread during the interviewing process? I'll bet you fine folks that conversation did not come up. In the end it doesn't matter how poorly we finish this year and next, at least our recruiting classes will be much improved.
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Gotta move forward guys flood is not here and neither is schiano. Ash is here for a few more years. His staff may change along the way but he is here. Go with it.
OP, for completeness can you also include the number of arrests we would have had and how much our APR would have continued to drop?
I'll hang up and listen, thanks.
I'll hang up and listen, thanks.
I noticed a few mistakes, so I fixed them for you. You are welcome.
Great point seaweed. Didn't think about the academics and arrests. Let's see on one hand with Flood we had a shot at 6-6 record, maybe 7-5 with a win over MD or a high APR and no arrests complemented by a dismal 2-10 record. I have a few friends in Florida and believe it or not Alabama, I will ask them which scenario they would choose.
Your premise is false. It is not an either or condition. We won 4 games last year with Carroo and Grant healthy. To suggest that we somehow win 4 more games with this schedule and a crooked dolt of a head coach is the height of ignorance.
I just wanted to make sure that everyone saw there was literally no redeeming quality to Flood. Not only was the product on the field in decline each year he was at the helm and recruiting tanking, we were making headlines for all of the wrong reasons.
... Yeah and with flood we would be anxiously awaiting a recruiting class that would be competitive with Monmouth. Move on, he was a simple man that was in over his head.
1-11 to 3-9 and this board would still have his defenders....bring him back, he is revolutionalizing recruiting with his strategy of landing one stars.
Ah right, a true freshman QB who hasn't taken a single snap at the college level would obviously have been our savior. How could anyone have overlooked that?
We don't know for sure yet if Ash and Co. are the answer, but we needed to move on from Flood. That was clear.
Please list all of these imaginary talented, even competent, receivers whom would have caught touchdown passes from Russo's to help net those extra 3-4 wins.
Yeah and Ash is Bear Bryant in the making. Flood's definite wins Iowa, Minnesota and Illinois. Maybe Indiana and MD. Last year he finished 4-8 while losing half of his defense, at full strength he would have finished 7-5.
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Reasonable people can disagree on Ash and his staff. I'm concerned with how much the offense seems to have regressed since the Minnesota game. They need at least another two years to get their system in place.
But there is simply no argument to keeping Flood. There was absolutely no indication the team was going to get better.
Under Flood no one would have gotten hurt, the offensive line would have played better than Dallas's, and we would be playing in a national championship. Give it up, I was a Flood fan, then everything came out and things continue to come out due to his lack of control and ability to run this team. I would rather win 2 games this year, have no arrests, change the culture, and lay a foundation for the next few years than win a few extra games with Flood at the helm.
To hear players like Darius speak of how much better things are going to be gives me hope for a better future.
To hear players like Darius speak of how much better things are going to be gives me hope for a better future.
And how recruiting would be going, no Clark, Lewis, Melton...
If there is any hypothetical it's what would have been if Schiano stayed... I'd think we'd be much better off... I'm happy with ash. Let's see what happens over the next 3 years.
The change in the offense may have cost us a game, maybe two this year....
I do not think that is an outrageous thing to say.... the continuity with the old offense would have resulted in slightly better results.
But
we have to look past that and hope that the new offense is more productive than the Flood offense, in a year, maybe two.....
The new offense is for a long term betterment.
I do not think that is an outrageous thing to say.... the continuity with the old offense would have resulted in slightly better results.
But
we have to look past that and hope that the new offense is more productive than the Flood offense, in a year, maybe two.....
The new offense is for a long term betterment.
More PSU stickers is complete horseshit. It's demonstratively not true. Within 5 blocks of my house in Haddonfield there are no less than 7 Block R magnets or flags easily visible. This in a town not historically known for sending their grads to NJ public universities. More and more HMHS grads are going to Rutgers.
BTW although FB has had some effect, most of it is economics when people ask themselves "why would I pay $25k more a year for similar quality education?". A few that did go ended up leaving after a single semester.
Awful post and simply not true. We're not even in the game vs Iowa or Minnesota with a Flood-coached team. IU would have bested him this year, too, and you can't do anything about TO's so Illinois is a loss. No way in hell Flood was winning 5-6 games this year and some of us called it 3 years ago. The "meltdown" was going to begin, THIS YEAR, regardless of HC.
Dear Mrs. Flood (I can only assume that is you), you are delusional. BTW, My brother was at a hoops tourney today and spoke to Paramus Catholic's football coach. You wouldn't believe the sh@t he had to say about your husband Flood - and it was not positive!
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I'll give you a second chance to redact 90% of your post. I know, you know football, so please inject yourself with truth serum and then tell me with a straight face that Flood is not a better coach than Ash. I promise you'll feel better afterwards.
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You'll what? Get lost. Flood was a moron, a liar, and couldn't recruit. I'll take Ash 100x over that buffoon any day of the week.
Imo we would have been same or slightly better w Flood tis season. however over the next 3 seasons ash will outperform what flood would have done
