I'm curious if any other Big 10 schools are looking to start up a men's lacrosse program. It'd be nice to see an 8 or 10 team league.
Still can't believe Big Ten Hockey has only seven schools. I know we don't have the money yet,but I thought some other school would have announced they were joining by now . Only new addition since it was formed is Notre Dame.
Maybe when we get the full B1G payout we can fund hockey and a women's sport. Maybe we can make a deal with the Devils.
No. We need to fully fund the sports we have and build suitable facilities before we even consider adding sports. We are no where close to even considering doing that now.
There was a question the other day about how Denver became so good so quickly in lax, and this is the answer. When they decided to start a D1 lax program they went at from the perspective of what it would take to compete for national championships. The way they landed Tierney was they hired him as a "consultant" to help find their head coach, which was really about getting him on campus to show off their facilities, their commitment to building a winning program and to find out what it would take for him to take the job and then made it happen.Don't see it ever happening. Think of what it took to start Penn St.'s program. I believe a $100MM donation.
Only field sports we can fully fund, provide competitive facilities and support, and that is it. Not one more.
I think there are some grumblings starting to be heard coming from Lincoln on Lax. They have the area where they can have all new facilities built beside the new women's(don't have men's) soccer and the new tennis stuff. There is room for a field and an indoor facility as well as locker and training rooms and could seat around 5000.
We have a brand new hockey facility that seats 4000 with training and locker room areas by the hoops arena. The problem is we don't have a hockey program. I guess the intramural hockey teams have some really nice facilities now.
And it's growing at a far greater pace at the youth and high school level. And not just in wealthy areas. With some regularity I drive through Compton. It's bad. 7 years ago I started seeing a few kids with lacrosse sticks. Now I see them almost all the time. This isn't a unique story.
Maybe when we get the full B1G payout we can fund hockey and a women's sport. Maybe we can make a deal with the Devils.
No. We need to fully fund the sports we have and build suitable facilities before we even consider adding sports. We are no where close to even considering doing that now.
Yea I agree...men's swimming/diving and men's tennis should be reinstated first when that time comes. Both are traditional B1G sports with a lot of history. Men's crew after that due to our history in crew.I would rather see us try to reinstate some of the sports which were cut. There is no reason to not have a men's swimming/diving team, as we already have the facilities built for those sports. Of course, now, along with adding them back we'd then have to fund comparative women's sports. So that would be an additional cost.
The only downside of lax for less monied areas/kids is the cost. Equipment isn't cheap. But when the kids see it, they want to play. I remember playing a game out here once near a baseball field and the kids stopped playing baseball to watch the lax game. I am sure we converted a few kids that day. Standing around in pajamas when you can run and hit in terminator equipment is a no brainer for any kid with athletic skill.
Heading to a benefit this Thursday actually for City Lacrosse, which is raising funds for this very issue. Coaching and equipment. It's all the kids need.
The only downside of lax for less monied areas/kids is the cost. Equipment isn't cheap. But when the kids see it, they want to play. I remember playing a game out here once near a baseball field and the kids stopped playing baseball to watch the lax game. I am sure we converted a few kids that day. Standing around in pajamas when you can run and hit in terminator equipment is a no brainer for any kid with athletic skill.
Heading to a benefit this Thursday actually for City Lacrosse, which is raising funds for this very issue. Coaching and equipment. It's all the kids need.
So you are saying women shouldn't be afforded opportunities? I remember when my girls first started playing softball. They boys had all the fields and the girls only got access when the boys weren't using them. And if a boys game was rained out and needed to be rescheduled, they bumped the girls. Are you suggesting we go back to those days?This was always the problem with Title 9. For every women provided an opportunity, a male was denied one, outside of the rare circumstances. Net net, there was no gain. Maybe even a loss.
Where there that many more boys teams compared to amount of girls teams playing softball? That was the case for my boy's league when they still played Little League. It wasn't anti-girl, it was more of a re-scheduling problem than anything else.So you are saying women shouldn't be afforded opportunities? I remember when my girls first started playing softball. They boys had all the fields and the girls only got access when the boys weren't using them. And if a boys game was rained out and needed to be rescheduled, they bumped the girls. Are you suggesting we go back to those days?
The boys should have gotten more fields because there were 2X boys vs girls. What had to change was the second class citizen approach and the bumping when the boys needed another field. No longer the case in town, things are equitable.Where there that many more boys teams compared to amount of girls teams playing softball? That was the case for my boy's league when they still played Little League. It wasn't anti-girl, it was more of a re-scheduling problem than anything else.
I don't want to speak for @Caliknight but I would really like to see Football and Wrestling left out of the mix when doing a Tile IX calculation.
Because they all went to lacrosse. LolThe boys should have gotten more fields because there were 2X boys vs girls. What had to change was the second class citizen approach and the bumping when the boys needed another field. No longer the case in town, things are equitable.
Or being an average basketball player when you can be a standout lacrosse player is another selling point for families who have limited/no exposure or access to lacrosse. We use the following video to sell lacrosse to such folks:
Where there that many more boys teams compared to amount of girls teams playing softball? That was the case for my boy's league when they still played Little League. It wasn't anti-girl, it was more of a re-scheduling problem than anything else.
I don't want to speak for @Caliknight but I would really like to see Football and Wrestling left out of the mix when doing a Tile IX calculation.
There is truth to that. Baseball softball is significantly down in our town for a number of reasons. Soccer has held steady, but lacrosse has significantly increased. Additionally our high school is graduating roughly 325 students per year (down from 350 a couple years ago). Incoming kindergarten classes are in the 225 range so significant decline in the pool of potential players to support all sports.Because they all went to lacrosse. Lol
Happened in my town. Baseball has to consolidate with other towns.
Yes, we have seen that too.There is truth to that. Baseball softball is significantly down in our town for a number of reasons. Soccer has held steady, but lacrosse has significantly increased. Additionally our high school is graduating roughly 325 students per year (down from 350 a couple years ago). Incoming kindergarten classes are in the 225 range so significant decline in the pool of potential players to support all sports.
For now we need to concentrate on core sports like FB,M and WBB ,LAX and keep the wrestling thing going..of course Soccer M@W and Baseball....Track and Field etc...then think Hockey...one big thing lacrosse has going for it is it's growing in the rich suburban areas with parents who pay full freight for tuition.
Boston University just shut down their wrestling program so they could add lax. Cleveland State was about to do the same until the students voted to increase student fees to keep the wrestling team.
don't know enough about the other B1G schools to predict if they'll try and figure out a way to add teams but it is one of the few (only?) men's sports that is growing at the D1 level.
Of course...who wants to be a target?? But I still love the ultimate mans game...so do fans...moms? Not so much...I see Jim Brown, or at least used to, regularly at the driving range. Dude can barely swing the club but somehow gets the club head on the ball every time and it goes straight. Athletic ability even now.
I asked him once, as is legend in the lax community, if he really liked lacrosse more than football. His answer was yes. If there was a pro lacrosse league that he could have played in making the same money, he would have done that instead of playing football.
Cali,
I am writing the check as we speak. As you know, I own Kohls,Rutgersshop,Walmart,Boscovs,Lids,Amazon, and so many other companies,that this is like pocket change to me.
This was always the problem with Title 9. For every women provided an opportunity, a male was denied one, outside of the rare circumstances. Net net, there was no gain. Maybe even a loss.
Huskeralways,
So let me get this straight, Nebraska-Lincoln has this new small arena on campus for club hockey,down the street there is a small arena for the Lincoln Stars of the United States Hockey League,you have a brand new 16,000 seat basketball arena,you have the 8,000 seat Devaney Center for other sports and then one hour away in Omaha,you have the newish 19,000 seat Century Center which can also be used for hockey and then Nebraska-Omaha which is NCAA Division 1 in hockey has a BRAND NEW almost 8,000 seat hockey arena.Out of the 27 players on Omaha's roster, only one is from Nebraska.Lincoln has a population of roughly 270,000 and Omaha is about 435,000. Most of our counties in New Jersey have more than that.We have about FIFTY New Jersey kids playing NCAA Division 1 hockey, and we are HOPING we go Division 1 in 15 years or so. By then,every kid in New Jersey will have grown up with Penn State being their local Division 1 hockey team which they will see plenty of times on TV,not to mention their games that they schedule in Philadelphia,New York City, and probably once in a while in Newark.Only in New Jersey !!! Ugh !!!