Will Michigan State or Ohio State sell out?

[bac2therac]

Very very disappointing to me that these games are not sold out. Yes all of this off field stuff and Floods stupid f up have hurt the momentum and passion for this season but these tix should have been sold out before the season even began. I see that the ticket price is like $130 for endzone for OSU..thats insane, no wonder why people are not buying them. I think RU may have to rethink dynamic pricing somewhat because not only do we have a smaller than anticipated fanbase but the casual NJ college football fan isn't even all that interested in Big 10 football.

We have the #4 and #1 schools coming in, the defending national champions no less and we cant sell either game out. Its mindboggling. It does say a lot about where the fanbase is right now. Its not really growing despite the entry into the Big 10. Yes the numbers are okay through the first 3 home games but to my eye these crowds are similar to what we have had in the past.

Is their confidence in this coaching staff from the casual RU fan..probably not. Just not getting the same buzz for these two schools as we did with PSU and Michigan last year and those schools were barely mediocre. I suppose there still is time to sell out Ohio State but its pretty disappointing to me its not sold out in advance

 

[WhiteBus]

Winning sells out in this area. Joining the Big Ten has not been the home run many thought it would be. Very sad about that.

 

[Knight Shift]

You call my posts divisive, and you lay the lack of a sellout on the casual fan's lack of confidence in the coaching staff? I got news for you, the casual fan is not that in tune to who the coaching staff is or what has happened this year. Throw some more stupid crap at Flood for things that are not his fault--his F up and off the field stuff affected ticket sales--umm, no.
Maybe you should reach out to your hero Julie to tell her dynamic pricing and $130/seat is ridiculous, the likely culprit for lack of a sellout.

 

[Terry_2426]

If they had regular priced tickets like they had in the past, then the games would have sold out a long time ago. With dynamic pricing, you're basically trying to sell out as close as possible to the game date. I think they figured the OSU and MSU tickets would sell just as good as the PSU and UM tickets did because they were going to be so highly ranked but that obviously wasn't the case. Definitely need to refine the dynamic pricing a bit more going into next season.

 

[ElmiraExpress]

Very very disappointing to me that these games are not sold out. Yes all of this off field stuff and Floods stupid f up have hurt the momentum and passion for this season but these tix should have been sold out before the season even began. I see that the ticket price is like $130 for endzone for OSU..thats insane, no wonder why people are not buying them. I think RU may have to rethink dynamic pricing somewhat because not only do we have a smaller than anticipated fanbase but the casual NJ college football fan isn't even all that interested in Big 10 football.

We have the #4 and #1 schools coming in, the defending national champions no less and we cant sell either game out. Its mindboggling. It does say a lot about where the fanbase is right now. Its not really growing despite the entry into the Big 10. Yes the numbers are okay through the first 3 home games but to my eye these crowds are similar to what we have had in the past.

Is their confidence in this coaching staff from the casual RU fan..probably not. Just not getting the same buzz for these two schools as we did with PSU and Michigan last year and those schools were barely mediocre. I suppose there still is time to sell out Ohio State but its pretty disappointing to me its not sold out in advance

I also thought that traveling Ohio State fans, or Ohio State fans living locally, would be willing to pay any price for tickets. What happened to the hoards of visiting Big 10 fans ? When Rutgers was announced for the Big 10, I thought there were reports of OSU, PSU and UMichigan fans buying season tickets just so they could see their team once in a year. Did that really happen ?

 

[Knight Shift]

I also thought that traveling Ohio State fans, or Ohio State fans living locally, would be willing to pay any price for tickets. What happened to the hoards of visiting Big 10 fans ? When Rutgers was announced for the Big 10, I thought there were reports of OSU, PSU and UMichigan fans buying season tickets just so they could see their team once in a year. Did that really happen ?

The other B1G fan bases are upset with the off the field stuff and Flood's e-mail, and they read the thread here weeks ago to not show up to teach Flood a lesson. :rolleyes:

 

[Leonard23]

Very very disappointing to me that these games are not sold out. Yes all of this off field stuff and Floods stupid f up have hurt the momentum and passion for this season but these tix should have been sold out before the season even began. I see that the ticket price is like $130 for endzone for OSU..thats insane, no wonder why people are not buying them. I think RU may have to rethink dynamic pricing somewhat because not only do we have a smaller than anticipated fanbase but the casual NJ college football fan isn't even all that interested in Big 10 football.

We have the #4 and #1 schools coming in, the defending national champions no less and we cant sell either game out. Its mindboggling. It does say a lot about where the fanbase is right now. Its not really growing despite the entry into the Big 10. Yes the numbers are okay through the first 3 home games but to my eye these crowds are similar to what we have had in the past.

Is their confidence in this coaching staff from the casual RU fan..probably not. Just not getting the same buzz for these two schools as we did with PSU and Michigan last year and those schools were barely mediocre. I suppose there still is time to sell out Ohio State but its pretty disappointing to me its not sold out in advance

Look, I'm disappointed too but I don't think you or others understand dynamic pricing. We didn't just pluck the prices out of thin air. Our prices are based on the secondary market prices, like StubHub. See here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessela...nd-for-football-tickets-with-dynamic-pricing/

Dynamic pricing offers the school the flexibility of adjusting the price of tickets in real-time, ensuring the secondary market does not solely dictate the value of the school’s tickets. This allows the school to maximize revenue from each of its Big Ten home games while also dissuading ticket resellers from purchasing single-game tickets.

One of the primary reasons for implementing a dynamic pricing structure was to protect the true Rutgers football fan. With a significant variance in demand between home games this season, static ticket pricing would have enabled ticket brokers to purchase as many tickets as possible for the Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin games and then essentially set the value for those tickets on the secondary market.

Tickets would be bought at face value and would subsequently surface on the secondary market for two to three times that price only seconds later.

Rutgers fans looking to buy tickets for just one game will see similar prices on both the primary and secondary market. For fans looking to go to several games over the season, the ability to purchase season tickets at a particular set price becomes all the more valuable.

“Dynamic pricing increases the value of being a season ticket holder,” said Geoff Brown, Senior Associate Athletic Director and Chief Marketing Officer. “This is one of the many reasons that demand for our season tickets is at an all-time high. We have been telling our fans for months that it makes much more sense to buy a $265 season ticket than to pay $150 or more for a single game.”

 

[e5fdny]

Couple of good points in the thread.

"New" always sells as does winning. WINNING sells out. Have done the first two. Have not done the third. Yet.

With the dynamic thing and our record (plus a little of the off the field stuff) I'm not surprised at all.

Have said all along the ceiling is 65K for us no matter what happens in our future. And 65K people consistently at Rutgers Stadium should not be considered a failure if we ever get there.

 

[jay_hq]

osu will likely sell out cause of their fans.

msu doesnt have the same national fanbase as osu though.

the only chance of these games being sold out is if the visiting fans pack in... which is highly likely.

 

[WhiteBus]

The people that thought that fans from other teams would buy season tickets to get seats for their team have been proven to be complete idiots.

 

[Leonard23]

The people that thought that fans from other teams would buy season tickets to get seats for their team have been proven to be complete idiots.

Based on what empirical evidence? Maybe many of those empties the past few home games are MSU, tOSU & Nebraska fans who bought season tix because they were cheaper than dynamically priced tix or not much more than them & they thought they could resell some of the other games to make back some $. You can't judge until we see the crowd for MSU & tOSU. Nebraska too.

 

[e5fdny]

Look, I'm disappointed too but I don't think you or others understand dynamic pricing. We didn't just pluck the prices out of thin air. Our prices are based on the secondary market prices, like StubHub. See here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessela...nd-for-football-tickets-with-dynamic-pricing/

Dynamic pricing offers the school the flexibility of adjusting the price of tickets in real-time, ensuring the secondary market does not solely dictate the value of the school’s tickets. This allows the school to maximize revenue from each of its Big Ten home games while also dissuading ticket resellers from purchasing single-game tickets.

One of the primary reasons for implementing a dynamic pricing structure was to protect the true Rutgers football fan. With a significant variance in demand between home games this season, static ticket pricing would have enabled ticket brokers to purchase as many tickets as possible for the Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin games and then essentially set the value for those tickets on the secondary market.

Tickets would be bought at face value and would subsequently surface on the secondary market for two to three times that price only seconds later.

Rutgers fans looking to buy tickets for just one game will see similar prices on both the primary and secondary market. For fans looking to go to several games over the season, the ability to purchase season tickets at a particular set price becomes all the more valuable.

“Dynamic pricing increases the value of being a season ticket holder,” said Geoff Brown, Senior Associate Athletic Director and Chief Marketing Officer. “This is one of the many reasons that demand for our season tickets is at an all-time high. We have been telling our fans for months that it makes much more sense to buy a $265 season ticket than to pay $150 or more for a single game.”

Great explanation Leonard23. Well done.

 

[bac2therac]

Look, I'm disappointed too but I don't think you or others understand dynamic pricing. We didn't just pluck the prices out of thin air. Our prices are based on the secondary market prices, like StubHub. See here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessela...nd-for-football-tickets-with-dynamic-pricing/

Dynamic pricing offers the school the flexibility of adjusting the price of tickets in real-time, ensuring the secondary market does not solely dictate the value of the school’s tickets. This allows the school to maximize revenue from each of its Big Ten home games while also dissuading ticket resellers from purchasing single-game tickets.

One of the primary reasons for implementing a dynamic pricing structure was to protect the true Rutgers football fan. With a significant variance in demand between home games this season, static ticket pricing would have enabled ticket brokers to purchase as many tickets as possible for the Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin games and then essentially set the value for those tickets on the secondary market.

Tickets would be bought at face value and would subsequently surface on the secondary market for two to three times that price only seconds later.

Rutgers fans looking to buy tickets for just one game will see similar prices on both the primary and secondary market. For fans looking to go to several games over the season, the ability to purchase season tickets at a particular set price becomes all the more valuable.

“Dynamic pricing increases the value of being a season ticket holder,” said Geoff Brown, Senior Associate Athletic Director and Chief Marketing Officer. “This is one of the many reasons that demand for our season tickets is at an all-time high. We have been telling our fans for months that it makes much more sense to buy a $265 season ticket than to pay $150 or more for a single game.”

except there are plenty of tix on those sites too that are overpriced and people aren't buying..people are not all that interested in paying $100 or more for a college football game

 

[brgossRU90]

Maybe after seeing the team get blown out by both teams last year fans aren't eager to shell out a wad of cash for what is likely to be a reprise.

 

[WhiteBus]

Based on what empirical evidence? Maybe many of those empties the past few home games are MSU, tOSU & Nebraska fans who bought season tix because they were cheaper than dynamically priced tix or not much more than them & they thought they could resell some of the other games to make back some $. You can judge until we see the crowd for MSU & tOSU. Nebraska too.

Really???
Rutgers hasn't had a preseason sell out for any game since joining the BIG Ten. So the idiots who said there would be 1000s of new season ticket holders is just another 5% crowd fantasy

 

[e5fdny]

except there are plenty of tix on those sites too that are overpriced and people aren't buying..people are not all that interested in paying $100 or more for a college football game

That's because it's not "must see TV" yet.

If and when we do our part in the future that could change. As I said before, new and winning gets interest. WINNING gets people to open their wallet. We haven't done that yet.

 

[bac2therac]

You call my posts divisive, and you lay the lack of a sellout on the casual fan's lack of confidence in the coaching staff? I got news for you, the casual fan is not that in tune to who the coaching staff is or what has happened this year. Throw some more stupid crap at Flood for things that are not his fault--his F up and off the field stuff affected ticket sales--umm, no.
Maybe you should reach out to your hero Julie to tell her dynamic pricing and $130/seat is ridiculous, the likely culprit for lack of a sellout.

lol if you think the off field stuff and 2-2 start has not taken the juice out of the season and out of these matchups for on the fence fans which RU has to rely on to pack the place.

also I already said that RU/Julie might want to rethink the insane pricing and already criticized Julie about this in another thread last week...maybe you can take sand out of your vagina next week

 

[bac2therac]

Really???
Rutgers hasn't had a preseason sell out for any game since joining the BIG Ten. So the idiots who said there would be 1000s of new season ticket holders is just another 5% crowd fantasy

this is true. There were some even claiming season tix would sell out. I don't see fans of Big 10 schools beating the door down like original thought...and yes its something that all schools are dealing with somewhat..the live game isn't necessarily the end all be all anymore especially at trumped up prices.

RU will sellout when they are winning at an extremely high level and will have a harder time when there is mediocrity

 

[e5fdny]

this is true. There were some even claiming season tix would sell out. I don't see fans of Big 10 schools beating the door down like original thought...and yes its something that all schools are dealing with somewhat..the live game isn't necessarily the end all be all anymore especially at trumped up prices.

RU will sellout when they are winning at an extremely high level and will have a harder time when there is mediocrity

+1

Again, the difference between WINNING and WINNING.

Never did the bolded. If we do....[cheers]

 

[letitrip2]

We are doing fine with attendance and will do so again on Saturday. The fact is in a metro area you must win to get huge crowds. If we were 4-0 going into this game it would sell out big time and demand would be nuts?
Just to keep things in perspective Indiana was 4-0 playing #1 4-0 tOSU and there were lots and lots of empties - stadium about the same size as RU - stay calm - It is coming despite what we are dealing with now.

 

[WhiteBus]

this is true. There were some even claiming season tix would sell out. I don't see fans of Big 10 schools beating the door down like original thought...and yes its something that all schools are dealing with somewhat..the live game isn't necessarily the end all be all anymore especially at trumped up prices.

RU will sellout when they are winning at an extremely high level and will have a harder time when there is mediocrity

Which makes the stadium expansion to 80k crowd look laughable as well!

 

[Terry_2426]

Really???
Rutgers hasn't had a preseason sell out for any game since joining the BIG Ten. So the idiots who said there would be 1000s of new season ticket holders is just another 5% crowd fantasy

Once you start doing dynamic pricing (and even without it to an extent), you're not supposed to sell out in the preseason

 

[WhiteBus]

Once you start doing dynamic pricing (and even without it to an extent), you're not supposed to sell out in the preseason

You must be new here!!

 

[Leonard23]

Really???
Rutgers hasn't had a preseason sell out for any game since joining the BIG Ten. So the idiots who said there would be 1000s of new season ticket holders is just another 5% crowd fantasy

Um, we had 1000s of new season tix holders for our inaugural B1G season, so anyone thinking we'd get thousands of new season tix holders when we entered the B1G was actually right, as our season tix base increased significantly (41%) from 22,040 in 2013 to 31,016 in 2014, which was basically maintained for 2015, so what are you talking about? Without winning, you won't see more than we have but everyone should know that by now. Also, who said anything about a sell out? You doubted fans from other schools bought season tix without any evidence to support your opinion so I questioned it. Some away fans have.

 

[WhiteBus]

Um, we had 1000s of new season tix holders for our inaugural B1G season, so anyone thinking we'd get thousands of new season tix holders when we entered the B1G was actually right, as our season tix base increased significantly (41%) from 22,040 in 2013 to 31,016 in 2014, which was basically maintained for 2015, so what are you talking about? Without winning, you won't see more than we have but everyone should know that by now. Also, who said anything about a sell out? You doubted fans from other schools bought season tix without any evidence to support your opinion so I questioned it. Some away fans have.

Wow you are an idiot. The 1000s I am referring to was the clowns that said would be other Big Ten fans selling out the games. And we haven't had a sell out so far so the 5% clowns have been proven to be wrong..... again

 

[rubigtimenow]

0% chance Michigan state sells out. Only chance OSU sells out is if OSU continues to win and we beat MSU ( hey at least that's better than 0%!)

 

[MADHAT1]

Still time for OSU, but MSU isn't looking to good with only 5 days left.

 

[rubigtimenow]

For MSU there are still a couple sections up top completely unsold.
For OSU the tickets just really haven't moved much since released to the public 2 months ago. At first there was almost 2k available but has been hovering around 700 left for a solid month.
In my opinion dynamic pricing should start low and adjust high as the volume decreases. RU last year and this year started with the prices high and then dropped them as time went on. Clearly they have miscalculated the demand.
Priority #1 Sell out the game.
Priority #2 Make as much money as reasonably possible but don't be greedy.

 

[Knight Shift]

The people that thought that fans from other teams would buy season tickets to get seats for their team have been proven to be complete idiots.

Why do you call everyone you disagree with or who does not get something right an "idiot". Tone it down. Many of your posts come off as you holding yourself out as omnipotent, and everyone is stupid.

 

[Knight Shift]

And wondering WTF the 5% crowd is that WB blames everything for.

 

[mikershoein]

Which makes the stadium expansion to 80k crowd look laughable as well!

Please don't tell me stadium expansion is even in the cards. Did anyone learn anything last year with Michigan and their empty "big house".

Television HD units are too good, I hope RU never expands so for us long term season ticket holders are tickets do hold more value than the $ amount printed on them

 

[Knight Shift]

lol if you think the off field stuff and 2-2 start has not taken the juice out of the season and out of these matchups for on the fence fans which RU has to rely on to pack the place.

also I already said that RU/Julie might want to rethink the insane pricing and already criticized Julie about this in another thread last week...maybe you can take sand out of your vagina next week

Your original post and the quoted post contain contradictory reasons to blame the lack of sellout. Should have been sold out in the preseason? Off he field stuff? The e-mail F-up? e5fdny nails it--winning cures all. Win big, and the stadium sells out. And why are you so disappointed? Why does it matter so much to you that the stadium is sold out? That that is the epitome of complaining about things that do not matter and letting the littlest things bother you. Good luck with getting rid of all of that sand.

 

[RUtrumpet92]

Are we really asking $130 for an end zone seat for these games? That is crazy high, and I have been a big fan for over 25 years. No way I would drop $300 or so to bring one family member to the game with me. I can't blame any casual fans for not doing it.

And for those wondering why a big fan does not already have season tickets, I live in Georgia and can't afford coming to enough games (time and money) to justify that.

The dynamic pricing does show the increased benefit of getting season tickets, though, but it is a tough sell for growing the fan base.

 

[KeithK7624]

I also thought that traveling Ohio State fans, or Ohio State fans living locally, would be willing to pay any price for tickets. What happened to the hoards of visiting Big 10 fans ? When Rutgers was announced for the Big 10, I thought there were reports of OSU, PSU and UMichigan fans buying season tickets just so they could see their team once in a year. Did that really happen ?

Look, I'm disappointed too but I don't think you or others understand dynamic pricing. We didn't just pluck the prices out of thin air. Our prices are based on the secondary market prices, like StubHub. See here:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessela...nd-for-football-tickets-with-dynamic-pricing/

Dynamic pricing offers the school the flexibility of adjusting the price of tickets in real-time, ensuring the secondary market does not solely dictate the value of the school’s tickets. This allows the school to maximize revenue from each of its Big Ten home games while also dissuading ticket resellers from purchasing single-game tickets.

One of the primary reasons for implementing a dynamic pricing structure was to protect the true Rutgers football fan. With a significant variance in demand between home games this season, static ticket pricing would have enabled ticket brokers to purchase as many tickets as possible for the Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin games and then essentially set the value for those tickets on the secondary market.

Tickets would be bought at face value and would subsequently surface on the secondary market for two to three times that price only seconds later.

Rutgers fans looking to buy tickets for just one game will see similar prices on both the primary and secondary market. For fans looking to go to several games over the season, the ability to purchase season tickets at a particular set price becomes all the more valuable.

“Dynamic pricing increases the value of being a season ticket holder,” said Geoff Brown, Senior Associate Athletic Director and Chief Marketing Officer. “This is one of the many reasons that demand for our season tickets is at an all-time high. We have been telling our fans for months that it makes much more sense to buy a $265 season ticket than to pay $150 or more for a single game.”

The problem is stubhub has Michigan state tickets at season ticket holder face value. I saw end zone seats yesterday for $45

 

[KeithK7624]

osu will likely sell out cause of their fans.

msu doesnt have the same national fanbase as osu though.

the only chance of these games being sold out is if the visiting fans pack in... which is highly likely.

Agreed... Plus the game is 3 weeks away... Unless I'm traveling, and even then, I rarely secure tickets until a few days prior. OSU will sell out and I think MSU will be semi close

 

[rutgersdave]

Win or even stay competitive and they will come.

 

[RU in IM]

We are doing fine with attendance and will do so again on Saturday. The fact is in a metro area you must win to get huge crowds. If we were 4-0 going into this game it would sell out big time and demand would be nuts?
Just to keep things in perspective Indiana was 4-0 playing #1 4-0 tOSU and there were lots and lots of empties - stadium about the same size as RU - stay calm - It is coming despite what we are dealing with now.

We are doing our part; our group of 8 will be 15 or 17. We are doing fine with attendance given the early season circus.

 

[bac2therac]

Your original post and the quoted post contain contradictory reasons to blame the lack of sellout. Should have been sold out in the preseason? Off he field stuff? The e-mail F-up? e5fdny nails it--winning cures all. Win big, and the stadium sells out. And why are you so disappointed? Why does it matter so much to you that the stadium is sold out? That that is the epitome of complaining about things that do not matter and letting the littlest things bother you. Good luck with getting rid of all of that sand.

Its both...go back to playing with your bobblehead

 

[Knight Shift]

Its both...go back to playing with your bobblehead

And you and Whitebus can continue to play the omnipotent card. Don't know what your issue is with your veiled attacks on people that don't agree with your agenda, but carry on with your divisiveness. Nobody could have predicted the things that would unfold this season, but then again this is Rutgers and it is always something. Your hero is in charge, and it's her move at the end of this season--time to see if she is up to the task she was hired for. I'm neutral on her, but now it is time for her to earn her money. And whatever she does, I am not going to come back on here and rub it other posters faces if something goes wrong. Have a nice day.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

Why do you call everyone you disagree with or who does not get something right an "idiot". Tone it down. Many of your posts come off as you holding yourself out as omnipotent, and everyone is stupid.

In general, ScarletNation seems afflicted by a few ill-mannered members who are frustrated, underachieving professionals and blowhards who may also have a past wherein they suffered a concussion or two, or enjoyed recreational drugs and/or alcohol to the point of having dependancy withdrawl and lingering behavioral issues.