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Will Michigan State or Ohio State sell out?

EXPAND THE LOW-PRICED FAMILY SECTIONS !!!
Lower the other prices
Lower the parking fees
Even if we don't get on ESPN 14, stop with the Noon kickoffs. Unless someone lives in Dunellen and has no children,they either can't get there at all or have to arrive in the second quarter. Many people just say forget it.
And here is a crazy idea--ADVERTISE !!! Did someone pass a law in New Jersey that Rutgers Athletics is not allowed to have ads in newspapers,radio stations, and News 12 ?
 
WhiteBus said:
I did answer your question. Rutgers was not sold out before the season began this year or last year. Or do you disagree with that???
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I wasn't asking that. I'll take your word for it, as tracking pre-season sell-outs isn't high up on my list of interesting things.

I was questioning your statement, paraphrasing, that people who suggested other fans bases would buy season ticket packages are "stupid." It seems incomplete to say that we have tickets available therefore fans from other fanbases didn't buy packages.

My question is simple.

Is it possible, in your view, that both can be true? That fans from other schools did buy packages, but they didn't buy them in significant enough numbers to sell out every game?

I know more than one fan in our own fanbase who bought PSU mini-plans this off season, in order to ensure a RU ticket.

Now, if you're asking me if I think A LOT of fans from other fanbases would buy RU season ticket or mini plans, my gut would tell me no. But that doesn't make it true.
 
HeavenUniv. said:
EXPAND THE LOW-PRICED FAMILY SECTIONS !!!
Lower the other prices
Lower the parking fees
Even if we don't get on ESPN 14, stop with the Noon kickoffs. Unless someone lives in Dunellen and has no children,they either can't get there at all or have to arrive in the second quarter. Many people just say forget it.
And here is a crazy idea--ADVERTISE !!! Did someone pass a law in New Jersey that Rutgers Athletics is not allowed to have ads in newspapers,radio stations, and News 12 ?
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Lower prices - nope. We're not drawing flies.
Expand Family Sections - nope. We're not drawing flies.
Lower Parking Fees - not gonna happen.
Noon KO's - we have ZERO SAY in what time our games are played. NONE. That being said, we still drew a damn good crowd for NFSU, and will draw just fine when winning, the rest is all bs excuses that people will use when the team is playing lousy and/or they don't like the head coach.
Advertise - we do.
 
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Ped and Michigan were sold out last year because the team stood a chance.

We stand very little chance in these two games.

Had we been undefeated- which would be a reality with competent staff- or even 3-1 without getting blown out of by an awful opponent, this game would have sold out.

It is just ridiculous to say it should be sold out based on the quality of opponent when we cannot field a competitive team.

Hopefully the lack of sales are sending a clear message to JH and Barchi.
 
I gotta side with WB on one thing here: there WERE posters claiming that opposing team's fans would be "in the 1000's" of our season ticket and 3-game plan bases. No question. Now, some of us figured that SOME opposing fans would do as much - and I'm quite sure they have - but no question there were posters making some silly claims about 1.5 years ago.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
I gotta side with WB on one thing here: there WERE posters claiming that opposing team's fans would be "in the 1000's" of our season ticket and 3-game plan bases. No question. Now, some of us figured that SOME opposing fans would do as much - and I'm quite sure they have - but no question there were posters making some silly claims about 1.5 years ago.
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This will become a real risk next year though if changes are not made. There were a lot of Michigan fans in College Park last week and you could hear them on TV. If Flood is here next season after 3-4 wins, RU fans will not renew, and our stadium will be loaded with Michigan and Cult fans. I guess they may not need to get season tickets though, unless they start buying and selling to each other.
 
ruhudsonfan said:
I wasn't asking that. I'll take your word for it, as tracking pre-season sell-outs isn't high up on my list of interesting things.

I was questioning your statement, paraphrasing, that people who suggested other fans bases would buy season ticket packages are "stupid." It seems incomplete to say that we have tickets available therefore fans from other fanbases didn't buy packages.

My question is simple.

Is it possible, in your view, that both can be true? That fans from other schools did buy packages, but they didn't buy them in significant enough numbers to sell out every game?

I know more than one fan in our own fanbase who bought PSU mini-plans this off season, in order to ensure a RU ticket.

Now, if you're asking me if I think A LOT of fans from other fanbases would buy RU season ticket or mini plans, my gut would tell me no. But that doesn't make it true.
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Than you are missing my point. My point was to the posters who said that they would buy enough season tickets that Rutgers to sell out the season.
As to your question I think a few may have but doubt it more than just a few.
Two reasons for this. 1) Most great seats are already sold. So no one is coming in and buying season tickets on the 50 yard line.
2) Since Rutgers doesn't sell out most games there is no demand on the secondary market to break even by selling the 6 other games.
Have there been a few fans of others schools that purchased season tickets. I'd say yes but not for the reasons that others thought.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
I gotta side with WB on one thing here: there WERE posters claiming that opposing team's fans would be "in the 1000's" of our season ticket and 3-game plan bases. No question. Now, some of us figured that SOME opposing fans would do as much - and I'm quite sure they have - but no question there were posters making some silly claims about 1.5 years ago.
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I don't follow attendance numbers. So, walk me through it.

If there are 32k season ticket holders, give or take, and;

10k student tickets and;

is 3-5k a reasonable visiting allocation?

That leaves what, 7k open tickets?

AGAIN...can't both positions be true?

Couldn't we have sold 2,000 packages/mini plans to other fanbases and still not be sold out?
 
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WhiteBus said:
Than you are missing my point. My point was to the posters who said that they would buy enough season tickets that Rutgers to sell out the season.
As to your question I think a few may have but doubt it more than just a few.
Two reasons for this. 1) Most great seats are already sold. So no one is coming in and buying season tickets on the 50 yard line.
2) Since Rutgers doesn't sell out most games there is no demand on the secondary market to break even by selling the 6 other games.
Have there been a few fans of others schools that purchased season tickets. I'd say yes but not for the reasons that others thought.
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I'm not missing. You aren't articulating it properly--until now.

Unless one kept notes on your season ticket arguments with certain people from 12-24 months ago, they would have no idea what you're referring to in this thread.
 
WhiteBus said:
We had people on this board, lots of them, that pontificated that Rutgers would sell out before the season. That ALL tickets would be sold before the season started because all Big Ten fans will insure themselves seats by purchasing season tickets. That's has not happened. Not even close.
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Hudson. I think I was very clear with this post. You just didn't read it.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
Never said any such thing. What I did say, however, was that the "very large alumni bases, of MOST B1G schools, will sell out visiting allotments MOST years...AND will sell far more tickets than the majority of our BE/AAC "rivals" ever did" which, no doubt, has already been happening. Shit, even Indiana had more fans than local "rivals" Yuke-On and Pitt would typically bring to HPSS.

Now you keep thinking the Pinstripe Bowl will fail my friend. :cool2:
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Lol! Revisionist history Nuts. Nobody ever argued that B1G would not draw more than Pitt and UConn. Now making stuff up. Like the dancing emoji though! Well done!
 
G- RUnit said:
Lol! Revisionist history Nuts. Nobody ever argued that B1G would not draw more than Pitt and UConn. Now making stuff up. Like the dancing emoji though! Well done!
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I'm not "making" anything up. Never have here, never will, I don't need to bs a bunch of guys on a message board. I save that for women at bars. [banana]
 
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ruhudsonfan said:
I don't follow attendance numbers. So, walk me through it.

If there are 32k season ticket holders, give or take, and;

10k student tickets and;

is 3-5k a reasonable visiting allocation?

That leaves what, 7k open tickets?

AGAIN...can't both positions be true?

Couldn't we have sold 2,000 packages/mini plans to other fanbases and still not be sold out?
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Yeah, sure, I'm not saying either way, simply pointing out that WB is 100% correct when saying that other posters were making claims as such ("1000's of visiting fans purchasing season tix and mini-plans").
 
ruhudson

You have it close

There are 52500 seats....

Take the following away
-10,000 students
-3,200 visiting allotment (including their player tickets)
-1,500 Rutgers player ticket allotment and university guests

There are 37,800 tickets for sale to any given game.

Of which 32000 are sold on season tickets

Thus, there is a 5500-6000 seat float of tickets in any given game right now
 
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Yup, less than 1000 tickets left through the school, Buckeye fans are starting to buy them up now, too (one buddy and his crew, here in Hoboken/JC, just picked up 20....).
 
So who are these "certain posters"? By my take, the whole point of this thread is to call unidentified people stupid?? Is that correct?

Also, it seems pretty clear at this point that both MSU and OSU are going to sell out. There are less than 1,000 tickets available for each right now.
 
There are around 500 tickets left for Ohio State on sk .com. So 51,5000 attendance as of now? :P it will sell out.

Side note: Almost the entire west side upper deck is sold out for that game. Anyone familiar with our stadium ticket distribution can guess what that means - OSU fans are going to be coming in storm. There will be more there than PSU fans for that game, is my prediction. (Based on most of those seats being availiable for MSU, meaning those aren't season tickets, and those specifically, which surround the "official" visitor sections, are all sold out, while a few tickets remain in other places).
 
NotInRHouse said:
Ped and Michigan were sold out last year because the team stood a chance.

We stand very little chance in these two games.

Had we been undefeated- which would be a reality with competent staff- or even 3-1 without getting blown out of by an awful opponent, this game would have sold out.

It is just ridiculous to say it should be sold out based on the quality of opponent when we cannot field a competitive team.

Hopefully the lack of sales are sending a clear message to JH and Barchi.
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see..here you go. Flood should be President as he can unite the left and the right LOL.
 
ScarletDave said:
There are around 500 tickets left for Ohio State on sk .com. So 51,5000 attendance as of now? :p it will sell out.

Side note: Almost the entire west side upper deck is sold out for that game. Anyone familiar with our stadium ticket distribution can guess what that means - OSU fans are going to be coming in storm. There will be more there than PSU fans for that game, is my prediction. (Based on most of those seats being availiable for MSU, meaning those aren't season tickets, and those specifically, which surround the "official" visitor sections, are all sold out, while a few tickets remain in other places).
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I believe there are still a few thousand for sale on the listing sites like StubHub. edit; slightly over 2500
 
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ScarletDave said:
There are around 500 tickets left for Ohio State on sk .com. So 51,5000 attendance as of now? :p it will sell out.

Side note: Almost the entire west side upper deck is sold out for that game. Anyone familiar with our stadium ticket distribution can guess what that means - OSU fans are going to be coming in storm. There will be more there than PSU fans for that game, is my prediction. (Based on most of those seats being availiable for MSU, meaning those aren't season tickets, and those specifically, which surround the "official" visitor sections, are all sold out, while a few tickets remain in other places).
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Been saying since last year there will be a TON of OSU fans at this game. They showed up with nearly 30,000 fans @ Cal a few years back and have a huge alumni presence in the area. Oh, yeah, they're the #1 team in the nation, and defending national champs, too!
 
AreYouNUTS said:
I'm not "making" anything up. Never have here, never will, I don't need to bs a bunch of guys on a message board. I save that for women at bars. [banana]
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I'm glad I never found the need to have to BS women at bars but if that is what works for you...lol. And please take this as a joke as it was a fastball down the middle
 
Received an E-mail today from Rutgers Athletics around 3:30pm:
"Only a Few Hundred Tickets Remain for RU vs. Ohio State"

So, it's almost a sell out for that game...
 
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Knight Shift said:
Why do you call everyone you disagree with or who does not get something right an "idiot". Tone it down. Many of your posts come off as you holding yourself out as omnipotent, and everyone is stupid.
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Because he is a DICK!

That's why. It's also the reason 95 percent of the people on here can't stand his guts.
 
bac2therac said:
Stubhub has a pretty good number of tix for both games
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But the official attendance will be from what Rutgers sold through their ticket office and OSU's allotment sales.
Like it was said in this thread by gRUntWork, RU sent out a notice saying less than a few hundred tickets left for the OSU game
Sell them and an official sellout.

Anyone know how many tickets RU needs to sell through ticket office for the MSU game on Saturday to make it a official sellout.
Doubt it will be, but the ones on stub hub and other third party sites are counted as tickets already sold.
 
With Dynamic pricing, sell outs are not the goal and much harder to achieve, as timing, price point, supply and demand are geared for maximum revenues rather than sell outs.
 
NotInRHouse said:
Ped and Michigan were sold out last year because the team stood a chance.

We stand very little chance in these two games.

Had we been undefeated- which would be a reality with competent staff- or even 3-1 without getting blown out of by an awful opponent, this game would have sold out.

It is just ridiculous to say it should be sold out based on the quality of opponent when we cannot field a competitive team.

Hopefully the lack of sales are sending a clear message to JH and Barchi.
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I think the only clear message that they will be getting is that dynamic pricing is working exactly as designed.

But nice try - again.
 
mikershoein said:
Please don't tell me stadium expansion is even in the cards. Did anyone learn anything last year with Michigan and their empty "big house".

Television HD units are too good, I hope RU never expands so for us long term season ticket holders are tickets do hold more value than the $ amount printed on them
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So true. Plus the pub I go to has $2 Bud bottles during RU games, a $5 menu, and a bathroom 10 steps from my stool. If a blowout, which I expect, I can simply walk out to my car and drive the 3 minutes to my house. Why on earth would I want to deal with laying out a Franklin for a ticket, dealing with the traffic in and out and paying $30 to park? All to watch a team that's likely to get blown out. It's insane.
 
Stubhub tickets are sold tickets, why do people present the view as if they are not..... The money is in the universities hands.

And I agree that the university would rather have a few other tickets unsold if they could sell the bulk of available at dynamic prices.
 
We need the $$$$, so dynamic pricing is a smart business model to use at this time.
 
RUaMoose said:
So true. Plus the pub I go to has $2 Bud bottles during RU games, a $5 menu, and a bathroom 10 steps from my stool. If a blowout, which I expect, I can simply walk out to my car and drive the 3 minutes to my house. Why on earth would I want to deal with laying out a Franklin for a ticket, dealing with the traffic in and out and paying $30 to park? All to watch a team that's likely to get blown out. It's insane.
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Ummm, it's a totally different experience being there live. Tailgating. Seeing old friends. Making new friends. Being part of the stadium atmosphere. Making noise on 3rd downs. Enjoying the marching band at half time.

Even when Rutgers got blown out by Wisconsin last year, we had a great time. But my personal happiness does not depend on whether Rutgers wins or loses. Sure, I would love them to win. But if they don't, I am pretty much over it by the time I have driven 10 miles from the stadium.

As Saint Greg used to say, "it's a process." We are part of a long process right now, and I believe we will work our way towards being more competitive. If that means holding the line for another year until RU can and will open up the wallet to do better, I am fine with that. I did not expect us to be dominant in year 1, 2 or 3 in the B1G and to be knocking off the top teams in the nation. I don't need instant gratification and heads to roll for every miscue and loss. That makes me a Flood supporter to some people here.
 
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RUaMoose said:
So true. Plus the pub I go to has $2 Bud bottles during RU games, a $5 menu, and a bathroom 10 steps from my stool. If a blowout, which I expect, I can simply walk out to my car and drive the 3 minutes to my house. Why on earth would I want to deal with laying out a Franklin for a ticket, dealing with the traffic in and out and paying $30 to park? All to watch a team that's likely to get blown out. It's insane.
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The are fans that think of football as a TV viewing opportunity. And then there are those looking for the full college football experience. Big difference.
 
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wheezer said:
Stubhub tickets are sold tickets, why do people present the view as if they are not..... The money is in the universities hands.

And I agree that the university would rather have a few other tickets unsold if they could sell the bulk of available at dynamic prices.
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True but I think that then points to the distinction between a sell out and packed house.

I'd be surprised(pleasantly) if either game is a packed house (Or maybe better put impressed by the visiting fans willingness to travel.)
 
wheezer said:
Stubhub tickets are sold tickets, why do people present the view as if they are not..... The money is in the universities hands.

And I agree that the university would rather have a few other tickets unsold if they could sell the bulk of available at dynamic prices.
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Yeah, I don't know why people think otherwise, sold is sold.
 
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