Will UNC ever get any punishment?
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The NCAA has been dragging their feet on this for several years. NC should suffer a severe punishment for football and both men and women basketball but they will probably get only a slap on the wrist in the spring after the Final Four is completed.
UNC has a strong bball team this year so hopefully ncaa doesn't do something stupid now. I think we all want to see what they can do in tourney with this team.:sunglasses:
I hope that was sarcasm.
UNC deserves the most severe punishment available.
Justice would be a ban THIS YEAR.
Sorry, but I don't think EVERY school is manufacturing fake courses and giving out grades to them with athletes. In fact, I doubt many have ever done it much less to the extent that UNC did.
Every school is letting students take the easiest classes, isn't grading them fairly (giving out higher grades for worse work) and just holding them to little or no standards, compared to normal students
That's really far from what UNC was doing. To paint all other schools as doing this "to some extent" is nuts.
The longer they drag this out, the more likely they can say: "The current athletes had no involvement with this, so it's not right to punish them for something they didn't do."
I would love to see your evidence to back this up. As some one who has worked in a few universities, I doubt this statement is even close to true.
I don't doubt the "easy class" part. Athletes get to register early and thus can take whatever they want. Its the claim that they are graded differently that I object to.
We need a "thumbs down" for posts like this. Your comment shows that you don't understand what RU student-athletes have to do, nor do you understand what UNC is accused of having done.
Even if we agree that athletes at Rutgers can take easy classes, how is that akin to a university creating fake classes with registration numbers that were only given to scholarship athletes, which classes had no instructor, never met, and all students who registered received an "A" without doing any work?
College is what any student makes of it. Some percentage of the student body chooses to take classes that are perceived as easier. At Rutgers, we have many athletes who seem to try to take easy classes, but there are others who take much harder courses. That is no different from the rest of the student body. That is how it is at most schools.
The sanctions/punishments are against the institution and its athletic department and many programs, not against players, which is why the NCAA will allow student-athletes to transfer out.
The Davis transgressions are not part of the current NCAA NOA. The Davis "sports agent" and gift infractions were already dealt with by the NCAA. The NCAA COI is currently preparing its sentence as a result of a reopened investigation following the Wainstein Report, dealing with fake classes, forged grade changes, etc., all cast as "improper benefits" that effectively kept many athletes academically eligible over 23-plus years. The SACS academic investigation revealed the fake class scam went back to 1989, as reported by UNC. Suspicions are it began even earlier.
I thought everyone knew the ncaa's capitulation to penn state meant they will no longer punish anyone very severely, if at all, for anything except maybe murder.
I have also heard that there was some shady things going on with learning disability diagnoses that lead to prescriptions such as adderall to be available to players.
Forget about who deserves what. UNC basketball has done wonders for the NCAA. Nobody, including Rutgers fans enjoy watching Rutgers basketball. If everyone in the NCAA plays Rutgers basketball, there would be no NCAA. Now you expect them to bite the hand that feeds? It's just not going to happen and if somebody ever grows a pair, the punishment will never be adequate by your standards. So rather than pretend to drop the hammer on them, let's just move on, because that's exactly what the NCAA is going to do.
I'm sure the guilt and shame they are feeling for implementing and covering up a decade's worth of fake classes and cheating is far worse than any punishment the NCAA could give them.
I'm not a PSU basher on this subject but your statement is ridiculous. Covering up a crime to protect your athletic department can be both. Being a criminal matter does not preclude it from being an NCAA issue as well.
What PSU did is worse. They didn't break NCAA rules to gain (or avoid losing) a competitive advantage. They broke the LAW to do it.
Regular students are graded differently, so I see no reason why the athletes wouldn't be either.
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