With some little help with Iowa losing we have a legit chance of finishing 5th in the big ten this year if we win out
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Win out, finish #5 in Big Ten
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In terms of bowl selection, were not in competition with the former PAC 12 teams, right? In other words - it doesn’t matter where USC, Washington and UCLA finish relative to us since they map to a different pool of bowls. Can someone confirm if that’s the case?
Its all very confusing to me but if this is accurate things look pretty interesting in terms of our positioning. Teams like Michigan and Nebraska look to have 6-6 potential at best. I’m not sure with the opt outs that the top bowls would pick these schools just for the names.
Meanwhile the teams were competing with mostly have to play eachother and we get a chance to even out record vs Illinois so oddly we seem to control our own bowl destiny in a sense. Could that be accurate?
Its all very confusing to me but if this is accurate things look pretty interesting in terms of our positioning. Teams like Michigan and Nebraska look to have 6-6 potential at best. I’m not sure with the opt outs that the top bowls would pick these schools just for the names.
Meanwhile the teams were competing with mostly have to play eachother and we get a chance to even out record vs Illinois so oddly we seem to control our own bowl destiny in a sense. Could that be accurate?
If we win out we legit have a shot at ORLANDO for the Citrus Bowl. Iowa I heard a stone cold lock for Tampa Bay. The Illinois game is massively important for bowl positioning.
What a change in the whims of sports. We have gone from being another Rutgers depression after the 4 game losing streak to now looking at finishing near the top of the league just under the elite teams. What seemed impossible has suddenly become almost probable.
Of the last 2 games, Illinois is the toughest one and we have them at home riding a wave of new found energy.
Can we finish with 8 wins ?
Of the last 2 games, Illinois is the toughest one and we have them at home riding a wave of new found energy.
Can we finish with 8 wins ?
Why would Oregon Washington UCLa and USC map to a different pool? They are members of the B1G and are included in the B1G bowl pecking order.
For this year they still have the old PAC bowl tie ins. The Beavers and the Cougs can’t fill all those bowls.
The new B1G West are aligned with the legacy Pac-12 bowl games through the 2025-26 season, meaning UCLA/USC/Oregon/Washington will still go to the Pac-12 bowls for this season and next season. After that the B1G will likely grab some of the Pac-12 bowls (Vegas, Holiday, Alamo) for their bowl lineup.
Lose the next two games and the fire Schiano crowd will be at full force complaining.
We also want to be heavy Wisconsin/Iowa fans vs Nebraska. We want them eliminated from bowl eligibility as they would knock everyone down a rung.
funny how very very quiet the ru and schiano haters are after wins . and they will tell you they are fans lol right.
Keep in mind standings don’t dictate bowl selection order. Even if Rutgers finished ahead of Michigan, they’d still most likely get the “better” bowl.
i could see Michigan headed to the Pinstripe
Agreed. Most bowl projections have Michigan going to the Bronx.
Have a feeling Nebraska does not make a bowl game..especially if they lose to Wisky this Saturday.
Moron Jerry Palm of CBS posted today he has us playing in the Boca Raton Bowl vs. Yukon . That would be the worst possibility. Not respect from that douche bag.
We would shit down Connie's throats in a bowl game with Greg given a month to prepare, but we're going somewhere like Phoenix or Charlotte.
Palm is an idiot!
We will likely be headed to the Guaranteed Rate Bowl in Phoenix.
And that would be legit..
This is the same talk about us being Top 25 before we lost 4 in a row.
Can we let the season play out? Of course I dream too but there is. A real Rutgers jinx out there lol... ( RU screw is real and tales many forms 🤪)
Wow. Heard discussion earlier in the season and they were including the new additions within our bowl line up and that the mountain west additions were aligned with the pac12. Interesting.
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While I would love to see us beat the crap out of Yukon a bowl in AZ or Florida is infinitely better.
If we continue to play like the last two games and score 30+ points, we become a more interesting and entertaining team for a bowl than a grind it out 13 point team. The emergence of Strong and Duff have prevented teams to totally focus on Miller, that's why he was freed up in one on ones. AK on the dime throw to MIiler for a TD was a thing of beauty. Great execution by both players.
repeating, the Citrus selection goes to highest Big Ten team not in playoff. Iowa cannot repeat, and will likely go to Tampa
Pac-12 transfers are not eligible for this or other Big 10affiliated bowls yet
8-4 will put Rutgers at #5 w tiebreaks over Minny & Illini
RU will not repeat to Pinstripe
7-5 would be a likely Phoenix, even 6-6, as that would mean RU loses to MSU who would gain bowl eligibility & most likely go to Detroit
Music City/Charlotte not completely out at 6-6, although very unlikely. 7-5 Maybe, as they select before Phoenix, & might like Rutgers, especially Charlotte
Pac-12 transfers are not eligible for this or other Big 10affiliated bowls yet
8-4 will put Rutgers at #5 w tiebreaks over Minny & Illini
RU will not repeat to Pinstripe
7-5 would be a likely Phoenix, even 6-6, as that would mean RU loses to MSU who would gain bowl eligibility & most likely go to Detroit
Music City/Charlotte not completely out at 6-6, although very unlikely. 7-5 Maybe, as they select before Phoenix, & might like Rutgers, especially Charlotte
Just winning our last two games doesn't get us to #5. Too much needs to happen to improve 4 spots including Iowa losing out.
Rutgers can only control themselves so talking about being 5th with two games to go is a bit premature.
Technically your right. Iowa can finish with a better conference record if we both win out, but they are the only team (we’d have the same overall record as them in that case). Minny would have to beat Penn State to finish with only 3 conference losses. And the 8-4 assumption for us assumes Illinois takes another loss to us. Winning out would actually assure that we finish ahead of USC (5 conf losses) UCLA (5 conference losses) Washington (we own that time breaker).
I find the bowl affiliation stuff confusing but it sounds like the previous poster is saying Iowa is ineligible for the Citrus bowl since they played there last year. Unless Minny beats PSU, 8-4 would put us ahead of them on a tie breaker and Illinois would also lose the tie breaker to us in that case as our path to 8-4 requires beating them.
Of course - there’s still a possibility that one of the projected playoff bound teams get snubbed and sent to the Citrus.
Oh, God no! That would be the worst case scenario for possible opponents and venue!
Are we even eligible for the Pin Stripe Bowl?
When you stop and think about it, his projection is actually funny. Think about what that would requireto even be mathematically possible:
1) Rutgers must lose out. Michigan State must win out.
2) ok fine. Say that happens. He also has Minny in the Duke Mayo Bowl. That must mean they win one more game - right? Why would an East coast bowl pick them at 6-6 over us when we won the head to head? So fine - who are they beating? Penn State? Unlikely, so let’s go with Wisconsin.
3) ok - so now his scenerio also requires Wisky to win another game to get to 6. If they don’t beat Minny the only other option is Nebraska - right? So let’s say they win the Nebraska game.
4). For his scenerio to work, he’d then need Nebraska - after losing 5 straight to go on the road to Iowa to clinch bowl eligibility.
I mean, sure, I guess it could all play out this way but…
When you stop and think about it, his projection is actually funny. Think about what that would requireto even be mathematically possible:
1) Rutgers must lose out. Michigan State must win out.
2) ok fine. Say that happens. He also has Minny in the Duke Mayo Bowl. That must mean they win one more game - right? Why would an East coast bowl pick them at 6-6 over us when we won the head to head? So fine - who are they beating? Penn State? Unlikely, so let’s go with Wisconsin.
3) ok - so now his scenerio also requires Wisky to win another game to get to 6. If they don’t beat Minny the only other option is Nebraska - right? So let’s say they win the Nebraska game.
4). For his scenerio to work, he’d then need Nebraska - after losing 5 straight to go on the road to Iowa to clinch bowl eligibility.
I mean, sure, I guess it could all play out this way but…
Mr. Palm has always been dismissive of Rutgers in both sports. Best to ignore him.
I'd give up a spot to have Minnesota beat Penn State!!
He probably just couldn't fathom a bowl taking us over Minn regardless of record. So it stops at #2. He's certainly got a thing about us it seems.
No - Minny isn’t a brand name and there’s no way they would travel to North Carolina better than us. He must know that. I suppose they might get picked ahead of us if they have 4 league wins vs our 3 though even with the head to head, but that wouldn’t be a given. We beat VTech while they lost at home to UNC.
His projection also requires Michigan beating NW. I left that off.
The Fosters City Bowl took Maryland over us in 2014, and we ended up in Detroit. Even though we beat them. Even though they don’t travel at all. Ever since that happened, all bets are off, because the bowl selection process is opaque. Suits will go into a room, and they’ll figure it out.
That’s essentially the bowl selection process.
For our optimal bowl, we have to win out. Otherwise, we could easily end up in Detroit again.
Bowls don’t pick teams in order of conference finish. They can skip a team or two. The idea of tiebreakers is irrelevant.
Palm doesn’t have us in Detroit. He has us not getting picked up by a BIG bowl…
Also - that 2014 Maryland team did better than us in conference and had a better overall resume. more competitive against better teams with wins over PSU and Iowa. And their non-conference slate was harder. There’s really nothing to argue for in the case on Minny other than that they would have a better conference record.
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