Wise Guys are expecting 41-15'ish final...

[Arizona Knight]

When you take into account the Total and Line that's the final they are predicting. I expected at 21 point spread but I have to imagine we score more than 14.

Heck, If Washington scores as much as expected then you have to imagine Janarion Grant sets us up in pretty good field position at least twice. Then factor in a decent chance at a turnover at least once and I'm having a hard time seeing only 14 points from RU.

If I were a betting man which tend to be, I have to like Rutgers and the Over and feel fairly good about my chances at a split at worst.

(Please resist the urge to respond with "the lines are set by betting." We all get that)

 

[ArminRU]

I think we win outright. #yolo

 

[RRRRUUUU]

winning outright is 15:1.

 

[OSU2015]

I believe RU wins in a close one which helps to propel you guys to a winning record this year.

7-6 record with a win over PSU and bowl victory.

 

[RUtrumpet92]

I don't think we will beat them THAT badly.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I believe RU wins in a close one which helps to propel you guys to a winning record this year.

7-6 record with a win over PSU and bowl victory.

Why stop there?:rolleyes: We put on our big boy pants just like everyone else.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[_dave_]

Why stop there?:rolleyes: We put on our big boy pants just like everyone else.:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

We need pants? Uh oh...

 

[Ataylor1989x]

I'd love to see if there are any breakdowns of average margin of season-opening non conference games between Power Five programs. I can't imagine there could be that many blowouts. Both teams are going to be rusty. Of course between a ranked team and a team with a completely new system, the ranked team is going to be favored.....but a season opener is a very unique dynamic.

 

[hanoverian]

I'd love to see if there are any breakdowns of average margin of season-opening non conference games between Power Five programs. I can't imagine there could be that many blowouts. Both teams are going to be rusty. Of course between a ranked team and a team with a completely new system, the ranked team is going to be favored.....but a season opener is a very unique dynamic.

Interesting: a recent study (Phil Steele and somebody) indicated 26 point favorites win 95% of the time. I was surprised it was that low.

 

[hanoverian]

I believe RU wins in a close one which helps to propel you guys to a winning record this year.

7-6 record with a win over PSU and bowl victory.

Are you confusing teams wearing scarlet?

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

I'm no weather geek - but --- weather looks to be cool (mid 50's at kickoff) rising to low 60's - cloudy and somewhat wet (cloudy to partly cloudy-- possibly rain early - definitely damp from rain the night before.

not great for the passing game-- but good for the running game - which looks to be our early strength...

 

[Arizona Knight]

I'm no weather geek - but --- weather looks to be cool (mid 50's at kickoff) rising to low 60's - cloudy and somewhat wet (cloudy to partly cloudy-- possibly rain early - definitely damp from rain the night before.

not great for the passing game-- but good for the running game - which looks to be our early strength...

The flip side to that coin unfortunately is that a team from Seattle is probably more accustomed to playing in rainy conditions.

 

[RUforester72]

Dopey spread. Ohio State is 25 pt favorite over Bowling Green! UW is NOT OSU and we are NOT BGU.

 

[RU-ROCS]

I believe RU wins in a close one which helps to propel you guys to a winning record this year.

7-6 record with a win over PSU and bowl victory.

Boy, I'd sign up for that in a second!

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

Dopey spread. Ohio State is 25 pt favorite over Bowling Green! UW is NOT OSU and we are NOT BGU.

Washington > Ohio St.

 

[RUinOhio]

Washington was 7-6 last year, and who did they really beat? #14????????? give me a break. Talk about overrated. This is Irish level overrated.

 

[RUinOhio]

Washington > Ohio St.

you're funny

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

Washington was 7-6 last year, and who did they really beat? #14????????? give me a break. Talk about overrated. This is Irish level overrated.

Washington beat two teams last season that finished ranked.

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

you're funny

 

[RUinOhio]

Washington beat two teams last season that finished ranked.

which 2 in which poll? you're a good poster here lol, and a serious question. I'm seeing no one ranked but a few beers could render me blind!!! Ohio State mops the floor with Washington and almost everyone else. which sucks because I have to hear about it every day

 

[RutgerZ]

New coaching staff, new weight room philosophy, transition to the spread, first game of the season...

This is a brand new team. I don't take that spread seriously. Looking forward to Saturday :boxing:

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

which 2 in which poll? you're a good poster here lol, and a serious question. I'm seeing no one ranked but a few beers could render me blind!!! Ohio State mops the floor with Washington and almost everyone else. which sucks because I have to hear about it every day

I stand corrected. Both USC and WSU were ranked when UW beat them and WSU won their bowl game vs Miami while USC won the PAC South division yet none of them finished ranked ... I'm looking at the wiki link right now. East coast bias.

 

[winfield102]

Is UW going to be explosive on offense? As long as we don't turn the ball over deep in our own territory, I would hope we can keep UW at 35 or less points. They did score over 43 in 4 of their last 6 games last year. While the DL is a strong point, we have no idea how the lb's are going to play.

We also have no idea how our offense will function. How often do teams changes offensive schemes and hit the ground running? We don't have a game changing QB. UW has a quality defense so I'd be very surprised (and extremely happy) if we score more than 3 offensive TD's.

If I had to bet, I'd bet on us covering.

 

[SouthJerseyRU]

I think I like RU plus points and the under. UWs D is good, especially along the line, so don't think we score a lot. I think Ash and company will scheme the game well enough to keep them close. I'll go with something like 24-13.

 

[Alaska_Dawg]

I think I like RU plus points and the under. UWs D is good, especially along the line, so don't think we score a lot. I think Ash and company will scheme the game well enough to keep them close. I'll go with something like 24-13.

That' close to what I have ... I have Washington taking it by a score of 27 - 13.

 

[jonS]

Washington may be very good this year but Rutgers is underrated for several reasons. Yes they were 4-8 last year, poorly coached, and beaten badly by the powers in the Big Ten. But I always thought the talent was better than what the record reveals ( with apologies to Bill Parcells) , especially on defense. However, I believe the main factor that reinforces the lack of respect for Rutgers is the fact that they play in the Big Ten East division which could be the toughest division in college sports. With Ohio State, Michigan , Michigan State all in the top 15 and rated better than the Huskies it's easy to underrate Rutgers , especially with all the talking heads badmouthing Rutgers chances in the Big Ten this year. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if Rutgers doesn't make a fight of it. Think about it--if the ratings are to be believed, the Huskies would struggle to win in the Big Ten east. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if we won. Rutgers 24-18.....

 

[KnightsofChrome]

Washington may be very good this year but Rutgers is underrated for several reasons. Yes they were 4-8 last year, poorly coached, and beaten badly by the powers in the Big Ten. But I always thought the talent was better than what the record reveals ( with apologies to Bill Parcells) , especially on defense. However, I believe the main factor that reinforces the lack of respect for Rutgers is the fact that they play in the Big Ten East division which could be the toughest division in college sports. With Ohio State, Michigan , Michigan State all in the top 15 and rated better than the Huskies it's easy to underrate Rutgers , especially with all the talking heads badmouthing Rutgers chances in the Big Ten this year. I'll be very surprised and disappointed if Rutgers doesn't make a fight of it. Think about it--if the ratings are to be believed, the Huskies would struggle to win in the Big Ten east. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if we won. Rutgers 24-18.....

Exactly, finally someone who gets it! RU football was a train wreck last year. Poorly, poorly coached, and amazing we got 4 wins. But, the talent was there. This year we will see the talent that no one saw last year, I even think Laviano will prosper in this new Offense. And, our Defense will be night and day compared to last year. Press coverage is exactly how you nullify the spread, as long as the two corners are good. Our DLine is for real!
The question, is our LB's, which I believe will be a strength. It just seems that Ash is very coy regarding them.
Everyone is raving about Washington's Defense, I think it's average at best, compared to the BIG East. My prediction is close to Jon's at 27 Rutgers 17 Washington.

 

[jonS]

Exactly, finally someone who gets it! RU football was a train wreck last year. Poorly, poorly coached, and amazing we got 4 wins. But, the talent was there. This year we will see the talent that no one saw last year, I even think Laviano will prosper in this new Offense. And, our Defense will be night and day compared to last year. Press coverage is exactly how you nullify the spread, as long as the two corners are good. Our DLine is for real!
The question, is our LB's, which I believe will be a strength. It just seems that Ash is very coy regarding them.
Everyone is raving about Washington's Defense, I think it's average at best, compared to the BIG East. My prediction is close to Jon's at 27 Rutgers 17 Washington.

I also believe that Laviano will have a much better year. People forget he never started a game before last year and what little experience he had was minimal. And when he had poor games , Flood did him no favors by keeping him out there and having him take a physical beating from opposing teams and mental beating from fans. He's got special toughness....When you compare his stats to Nova's and Teel's after comparable number of starts , I believe his stats are quite favorable. That's even more impressive when you consider Laviano has played against Big Ten competition, not Big East or AAC competition. Laviano also didn't have Ralph Fridgeon as his coordinator and play caller. Instead, Laviano was left with very predictable game plans.

 

[Debtbubble]

First game of the season is always somewhat of a mystery. Preseason rankings don't mean much. If Washington comes out flat, couple turnovers. Could be interesting.

Add in west coast trip, new coaching staff and schemes.

I would take RU and (now 27 points) Seems a bit high.

Wish it was on TV.

 

[KnightsofChrome]

First game of the season is always somewhat of a mystery. Preseason rankings don't mean much. If Washington comes out flat, couple turnovers. Could be interesting.

Add in west coast trip, new coaching staff and schemes.

I would take RU and (now 27 points) Seems a bit high.

Wish it was on TV.

It is (DISH).

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

48-9 Washington is my prediction.

 

[KnightsofChrome]

48-9 Washington is my prediction.

Please come back on Monday, as I will.

 

[srru86]

It think this says more about the wise guy's need to balance the money wagered than getting a precise prediction of the final score.

No surprise there are not a lot of people putting money on us.

 

[RUinOhio]

that's what I was looking at, I guess I didn't have too many beers lol

I stand corrected. Both USC and WSU were ranked when UW beat them and WSU won their bowl game vs Miami while USC won the PAC South division yet none of them finished ranked ... I'm looking at the wiki link right now. East coast bias.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I stand corrected. Both USC and WSU were ranked when UW beat them and WSU won their bowl game vs Miami while USC won the PAC South division yet none of them finished ranked ... I'm looking at the wiki link right now. East coast bias.

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[moondawgie]

Exactly, finally someone who gets it! RU football was a train wreck last year. Poorly, poorly coached, and amazing we got 4 wins. But, the talent was there. This year we will see the talent that no one saw last year, I even think Laviano will prosper in this new Offense. And, our Defense will be night and day compared to last year. Press coverage is exactly how you nullify the spread, as long as the two corners are good. Our DLine is for real!
The question, is our LB's, which I believe will be a strength. It just seems that Ash is very coy regarding them.
Everyone is raving about Washington's Defense, I think it's average at best, compared to the BIG East. My prediction is close to Jon's at 27 Rutgers 17 Washington.

Defense is definitely not average at best relative to B1G east. The offenses they play in the PAC are much better yet they were still one of the top scoring defenses in the nation. That said, I think 26 is a ridiculous line for this game. There is a lot of unknown. UW 31, Rutgers 17.

 

[RutgerZ]

Defense is definitely not average at best relative to B1G east. The offenses they play in the PAC are much better yet they were still one of the top scoring defenses in the nation. That said, I think 26 is a ridiculous line for this game. There is a lot of unknown. UW 31, Rutgers 17.

How are offenses in the PAC "much better"?

 

[mildone]

How are offenses in the PAC "much better"?

Considering you have to go all the way back to 2004 to find a PAC-12 national championship winner, I'm wondering the same thing.

 

[hanoverian]

Acknowledging that looking at recruiting rankings to get a feel for any single game has limited utility, they do correlate with wins and losses over time. UW has recruited better than Ritgers for the past 5 years by about 20 spots in the rankings. That suggests a real talent differential for Saturday's game. Rutgers recruiting rankings have more closely approximated Oregon State, a team UW has crushed the past three years.

Coaching and conditioning matter, a lot. Rutgers has made giant steps in those areas and that will show. However, on Saturday they face an opponent that began such steps three years ago.

And they are playing at home, not 3,000 miles away.

Logic says UW wins by double digits. Fans , of course, have an inalienable right to be illogical.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Acknowledging that looking at recruiting rankings to get a feel for any single game has limited utility, they do correlate with wins and losses over time. UW has recruited better than Ritgers for the past 5 years by about 20 spots in the rankings. That suggests a real talent differential for Saturday's game. Rutgers recruiting rankings have more closely approximated Oregon State, a team UW has crushed the past three years.

Coaching and conditioning matter, a lot. Rutgers has made giant steps in those areas and that will show. However, on Saturday they face an opponent that began such steps three years ago.

And they are playing at home, not 3,000 miles away.

Logic says UW wins by double digits. Fans , of course, have an inalienable right to be illogical.

You know what is funny all those superior recruiting classes resulted in a similar record and during that time UW had better coaching. Oh, maybe it was another hype job. You know the one where recruits receive a bump in ranking due to where they commit. Rankings have a way of lying. We have learned it's not what the classes look like coming in, but how they perform when they get to college. Rutgers is known for getting the most out of little recruited kids. Just look at the number of Rutgers players in the league.