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Would a demotion, instead of termination, be possible and have benefits?

zazoo2002

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I don't understand the landscape of college football enough and specifically, the details of all the variables in play at RU (which are many and well beyond most schools - administrative dysfunction, budget constraints, anti-RU media, NJ culture, etc) to form a sound opinion - but am curious whether demoting Flood, instead of terminating him, would be possible and have some benefits?

By most accounts, he seem to be a good guy who made a rather poor choice. His pitch is now tarnished, but he does (currently) appear to have the tenuous support of the incoming recruiting class. Does retaining him -- even in a lesser capacity and if willing -- provide some degree of badly needed continuity? I think part of the problem Rutgers' football program has, is the constant turnover among coordinators/assistants. Under Flood, I think it is mostly budget related, as well as poor personnel choices, all of which ultimately equal poor results. Under Schiano, I think it was also partly budget related -- he ate up the lion's share of the budget -- as well as, he was simply a bear to work under. That's primarily why I'm not a big fan of Schiano returning. His ego would likely not allow him to keep his grubby paws off of the offense, which were often offensive imo.

So, many are now rightfully questioning Floods ability to be, as someone else put it on the boards, and I'm paraphrasing, the pitchman/politician/ceo of the Rutgers' Football Program. We have unique needs and need a uniquely qualified coach. I think Flood was growing into that role, but unfortunately, he may have shut the window of opportunity. So, I'm just curious, in the current climate, is it possible to hire Coach X, retain Flood, maintain continuity and some/all of our incoming 2016 class? I know it's A LOT TO ASK; maybe impossible. And, while the 2016 class is not plastered with 4-star recruits, it does seem to be a class that fills gaps, and provides good ballers.
 
Well he would be demoted to OLine coach assumably, did you see our OLine Saturday....
 
Depends on the hire. I could see Schiano keeping him but flood would have to be 100% on board. Most new coaches would want a clean break bit keep some guys on for stability. Three guys you could argue to keep are panagos, campi, and norries
 
Let me get this straight, you want to keep Flood in order to keep a recruiting class together? Wasn't that what got us into this mess in the first place?

"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It."
 
Some time ago ( year - 2 years) I had thought that a smooth & professional way to manage the situation would have been to thank Flood for his leadership & commitment to the University - stress the University's need for additional leadership in the management of the Athletic Department & "promote" Flood to a position like Senior Executive Assistant AD - sort of promoting him 'up & out of the way' then bringing in a 'star' coach . This would have given Flood some extra career options - after 2-3 years he could have looked to be AD at a smaller school - or could have jumped back into coaching.

But this would have required $$$ that was not readily at hand - (mostly to land the 'star' coach).... and it would have required Flood to have stayed out of 'issues'. Now it is not a viable option.
 
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You have to get the right guy in place as HC..that is the most important thing. Don't think Flood would even consider a demotion...at RU. When you change coaches ...normally you take a hit in recruiting..so be it. The ship needs to be righted.
 
Let me get this straight, you want to keep Flood in order to keep a recruiting class together? Wasn't that what got us into this mess in the first place?

"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It."

Face meet palm - You missed the point my friend. I didn't say HEAD COACH Kyle Flood. That ship has likely sailed and his assistant coaching history is not exactly glowing. Again, the main point was NOT to foolishly settle on a known internal relationship - promote a current staffer to HEAD COACH - simply for the sake of the current recruiting class, but to retain Flood in another capacity - if possible, willing, and fruitful - in order to suggest the perception of continuity and stem a possible mass exodus akin to '14. Now, if the RU administration take their collective heads outta their asses, recognize the opportunity that we have been gifted and surprise us all with a brand name hire, then all bets are off. Go RU!
 
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When has an demotion of a HC happened where they stayed on the new guy's staff. I can't think of one. Luke Fickell and situations similar aren't the same because those were interim HCs not a permanent one like Flood.
 
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