TBD. He did have some decent games against tougher competition. And remember he was just a freshman.
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TBD. He did have some decent games against tougher competition. And remember he was just a freshman.
Guys generally don't morph from 27% 3-point shooters to 40%+. Certainly a reduced role and not having to carry an offense will help. I can see him getting to around 33-35% next year, which makes him a contributor. I'm just saying that we shouldn't expect him to be like a lights-out guy.
To be clear, it may well happen. Jalen Lindsay on Providence shot 27% on 145 attempts as a sophomore, then shot 46% on 161 attempts last year and is at 60% this year. But that's not the norm.
Not saying to "expect" anything. I am just saying I am not writing him off as a big part and a shooter before he steps on the court at Rutgers.
I think Kiss is a role player in the B1G. If he was available this season he would have looked good against Central Conn., Cleveland St., Coppin St and Bryant and raised your expectations. Then when you get into B1G play you'll be like "what happened to Kiss".
I kept my mouth shut on Mensah because I don't watch much JuCo ball, but I am always concerned about 200+ pound guards. In the overwhelming majority of cases, their success at lower levels (HS, JuCo) is often due to them playing bully ball to score. They'll hit an occasional jump shot that will be caught on video and edited into a mixtape to make them look like good shooters.
Vetrone should not be recruiting, off campus, at all. He is no longer one of the three assistant coaches. I'm not even sure that NCAA rules permit him to call/text/DM/email etc recruits, their families or anyone associated with prospective student-athletes.
Oh no...I checked 36-130 27.7% WTF! Someone tell me something that might explain this. Did he have a broken finger or something?
It is terrible to say, but the souf mensah recruitment keeps me from blindly trusting the staff.
That's how I remember it. He's considered a good guy and he had proven to be a very good recruiter for Rutgers.
The other freshman on Quinnipiac that transferred to St. John's (Mikey Dixon) had way better numbers.
At least with Kiss the four teams he was considering were us, Auburn, Seton Hall, and Rhode Island. So other coaching staffs liked him too.
The other thing with Kiss is that he didn't start playing serious, competitive basketball until his sophomore year of HS. So this redshirt year off should help him more than most.
I recall someone posting his stats when he signed on, there was a group of games in a row where he couldn't hit any threes, if you took that streak out he actually had better stats. So who knows what happened in that streak, injury? hit a wall? Just a bad streak? who know?
I stopped trusting videos after I was fooled by Seagears. I like watching them to see the type/style of player, but they are just best moments. I always try to find full game footage, I trust that more.
Next year has the potential to be special.
If you are have a 2nd team of Kiss, Omoyuri, etc, that is saying something. Kiss is above average, and has produced at the D1 level.
Carter so far is averaging about 7 and 7. Nothing insane. Similar to Omoyuri, neither have been playing basketball for a long time.
If you are have a 2nd team of Kiss, Omoyuri, etc, that is saying something. Kiss is above average, and has produced at the D1 level.
Carter so far is averaging about 7 and 7. Nothing insane. Similar to Omoyuri, neither have been playing basketball for a long time.
wow, didn't realize that either about Kiss 3 pt shooting. I'll have to take that back then. well, hopefully, he can be a guy who can score a bit off the bench as a wing player--maybe also be wing defender, 7-8th guy...replacing Williams, though we haven't had a 6'5" player off bench who can do that in a while...if Sanders hopefully comes back, then we could start Sanders/Baker/Mathis, with Kiss off bench...I see Kiss as bridge to getting to Harper...
Here is a link to freshman Peter Kiss's stats. Seems like right at the end of the season (not the last game) he missed 17 straight 3's. Did he hit a wall?
On a good note, he was 4 for 4 vs. SHU:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/peter-kiss-1/gamelog/
On a good note, he was 4 for 4 vs. SHU:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/peter-kiss-1/gamelog/
I have no problem with a guy shooting 28% from 3 as a freshman. The adjustment from high school in that first year is huge.
If his form and release are good, and he can both catch and shoot and shoot off the dribble, his shooting percentage will improve over time.
Now he'll have a year off to work on his game while practicing against our current roster (shooting over Thiam in practice should help).
At 33% from the arc he would be a big help to this offense.
If his form and release are good, and he can both catch and shoot and shoot off the dribble, his shooting percentage will improve over time.
Now he'll have a year off to work on his game while practicing against our current roster (shooting over Thiam in practice should help).
At 33% from the arc he would be a big help to this offense.
Fatigue could definitely have been a factor for someone who only starting playing basketball competitively as a sophomore in HS. The year off to work on strength and conditioning (he has VERY skinny/wiry arms) should help.
I can't say I watched any Quinnipiac basketball last year, but the numbers indicate that he and Dixon had to run the offense. The hope is that some combination of the year off and being in an offense where he doesn't have to hoist as many shots helps his percentage.
Considering the animosity toward Issa (11-27, 40.5% this year) from some on this board, though, I think people will be let down when he isn't automatic.
True and Most will struggle from 3 in conference play because of size and length on the perimeter until Rutgers does a better job of kicking the ball out to wide open shooters Instead of trying to make layups on several shot blockers like we saw against FSU.
Interesting that last night during the Michigan-UNC game announcers pointed how Duncan Robinson struggled getting his 3’s off due to his release so it was on the team to do a better job of getting him more wide open looks. Robinson is shooting 38% from 3.
But as you said, this board chooses to show pressure and animosity towards Rutgers players shooting 40% from 3 and not on our players 6’7 & under failing to make layups on a couple of 7 footers instead of kicking the ball out to a wide open wing who although was tentative when guarded did shoot 50% from 3 against FSU when wide open.
