A-10 Conference....WTH are you thinking?

[BigEastPhil]

So the A-10 gives up its rights to the ACC so the Devil Conference can have their tourney at Barclays.

In return, one consideration that the A-10 got from the ACC was a doubleheader at the Barclays between between both conferences to be held once each of the 2 years in November or December

Well Rothstein today announces that 1 game has been finalized: BC vs Fordham...as part of the 2015 Doubleheader.

Are you ****** me?

One would think the A-10 would force a VCU - Duke; Dayton - UNC type of game but it settles for BC - Fordham?????

Delaney should have been proactive on this.....heck he could have gotten RU - Fordham from the A-10...

Though I love MSG for 2018 , I would have preferred Barclays in 2017 and 2018.......

 

[bac2therac]

MSG is still the Mecca and the center of the NYC universe.

but yeah you are right...the A10 got bamboozled on that one. Not sure a game between BC-Fordham would draw more than 1K

 

[Knightmoves]

So the A-10 gives up its rights to the ACC so the Devil Conference can have their tourney at Barclays.

In return, one consideration that the A-10 got from the ACC was a doubleheader at the Barclays between between both conferences to be held once each of the 2 years in November or December

Well Rothstein today announces that 1 game has been finalized: BC vs Fordham...as part of the 2015 Doubleheader.

Are you ****** me?

One would think the A-10 would force a VCU - Duke; Dayton - UNC type of game but it settles for BC - Fordham?????

Delaney should have been proactive on this.....heck he could have gotten RU - Fordham from the A-10...

Though I love MSG for 2018 , I would have preferred Barclays in 2017 and 2018.......

Phil,

So where will the A10 play their conference tourney once this happens ? Back to Atlantic City or Philadelphia ?

 

[knights1212]

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

The A-10 probably didn't meet it's overall sale or ticket pre-sale requirements from the schools and frankly, there is not as much to do in Brooklyn (as an outsider) as there would be if you were in Philly or at least have the hotels and casinos in Atlantic City, where fans can at least fill up the rooms there at a reasonable rate.

I think is what many expected and what the biggest fear the Big East has in not having anyone else step up locally for their conference....the longer it takes St. John's and Seton Hall to get things going, the more reliant they will be on Marquette, Creighton and others to support Nova and GTown to carry the conference.

It's not that the Big East tourney isn't going to sell tickets, because anyone can sell tickets for an event at MSG, it is a place that sells itself and anyone can get to and enjoy other things beyond basketball, even if your team is upset or eliminated early in the tourney. But I think the ticket prices would be higher for the B1G or ACC if it was at MSG, than what the Big East likely charges.

The other locations for these conference tourneys need to offer something else for patrons to want to go there and there is a good population that is just used to driving everywhere and Brooklyn or NYC don't offer much flexibility if you want to drive in from a far away place...the expenses pile up.....and you need to be savvy enough to navigate the trains to and from Brooklyn to NYC, if you fly in and don't need a car.

The bulk of the A-10 can live with AC or Philly, it's way cheaper and offers as much as those schools need as far as a venue as well. In time, I'm sure that NYC will get more B1G tourney's there in the future in either Barclay's or MSG.

I think the biggest success story for conference tournaments is Las Vegas for the Mountain West, Pac 12, West Coast Conference (Gonzaga & now BYU's league) and what used to be the WAC....there are 3 venues in size that can be used other than UNLV's arena (Thomas and Mack center), where the MGM arena takes in the Pac 12 (great for hotel room bookings) and the Orleans arena can handle the smaller conference schools.

I'm not sure where RU will play in Vegas later this year, but it's a trip that I can see any Mountain or West Coast school making each year if you are from as far east as Denver and covers the entire west. Eventually, NYC can be the same for the ACC and/or B1G, if the Barclay center can be sold or marketed a little better. I would think the ACC dry run of one year will tell a lot about whether the NC schools and VA schools will come north to Brooklyn to see how successful it could be.

 

[RUfinal4]

maybe the Prudential Center will bd on the A10 tourney

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

I thought maybe A10 was happy to leave Brooklyn.

 

[RBNY87]

I don't think having the tournament at Barclays is about being in Brooklyn, it is a 10 minute subway ride to Manhattan.

 

[e5fdny]

I don't think having the tournament at Barclays is about being in Brooklyn, it is a 10 minute subway ride to Manhattan.

Nobody fights to have a 718 area code.

 

[BigEastPhil]

I definitely prefer MSG but remember when the Big 10 plays its 2018 tourney at MSG - it's the week prior to the major conference tourneys.

Thus my comment about preferring Barclays above.

Knightmoves - A10 is having its tourney in Pittsburgh in 2017 and DC in 2018.

Then back to Barclays in 2019 and thereafter.

 

[Death]

So the A-10 gives up its rights to the ACC so the Devil Conference can have their tourney at Barclays.

In return, one consideration that the A-10 got from the ACC was a doubleheader at the Barclays between between both conferences to be held once each of the 2 years in November or December

Well Rothstein today announces that 1 game has been finalized: BC vs Fordham...as part of the 2015 Doubleheader.

Are you ****** me?

One would think the A-10 would force a VCU - Duke; Dayton - UNC type of game but it settles for BC - Fordham?????

Delaney should have been proactive on this.....heck he could have gotten RU - Fordham from the A-10...

Though I love MSG for 2018 , I would have preferred Barclays in 2017 and 2018.......

It's a doubleheader, correct? So, four games over two years?
In that case, I think Fordham should be playing in one of the games. For the A10 to work out a deal like this at Barclays and not have Fordham play in one of the games would be a slap in the face to Fordham.
Fordham-BC being the first game of a DH before a more marquee matchup in the second game of the doubleheader is appropriate.

 

[lwyrup]

I've lived in Manhattan for the past 10 years. It's a 30 minute subway ride (and 30 by car) from where I live (Midtown East) to Barclays Center. I have no desire to ever go to Barclays and have never gone. It's much easier for me to take a few hours off from work and checkout a SHU game at MSG for the BET. I would not do that if it were held at Barclays. Brooklyn is not as cool as people make it out to be.

 

[flyrradio]

As an A-10 alum and fan..I wholeheartedly agree..they got waxed in this negotiation. Neither game is going to draw anything. If they wanted a decent showing, they would have gotten Dayton and VCU, the 2 best traveling fan and strongest alumni bases. What should have been written into it is that teams had to finish in the top 4 of each conference to have the matchups determined.

Fordham can't draw 3,000 to their own gym. The second game is a snoozer too, George Washington vs. Virginia Tech