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We've got a good deal in NJ. We pay less for gas, because of lower gas taxes and we don't have to pump it. Why would anyone want this to change?
Why not pump your own gas, increase the taxes 2-3 cents per gallon to keep things the same price and raise a ton of cash for a state that needs money.
Shouldn't they allow gas stations to include self serve and full service then?
Because the prices wont really go down, the owners will pocket the savings in payroll and we will just have to pay more for the increase in gas tax that will likely be siphoned somewhere else besides road improvements. There are a lot of college kids and retirees who count on that job of pumping gas to support themselves. I agree with Al, if its not broke, leave it alone. There are plenty of other problems they can focus their attention on
I want so badly to defend New Jersey but I can't defend the weak sauce on this thread. Grown men complaining about walking inside to pay for gas or operating a pump. Are you guys afraid to operate the do it yourself line at the grocery store too?
Do you also avoid purchasing things online to protect the jobs of the workers at those stores too? How many other jobs are you killing with consumer decisions that lead to robotics, outsourcing, and automation?Well, I do avoid it......but not because I'm afraid.
I just can't help wondering what those 75 year old ladies who currently ring up my purchases at ShopRite are gonna do for money in the future. Pump gas I guess.
Do you also avoid purchasing things online to protect the jobs of the workers at those stores too? How many other jobs are you killing with consumer decisions that lead to robotics, outsourcing, and automation?
As a Godless socialist liberal, I love the gas service attendant law. It's like a tax on gas stations that's too toxic to repeal by Republicans because it directly would eliminate lower middle class jobs.
Why the capital G in Godless? $$$$
Yeah, let's put more people out of work to save a few pennies...I love to pump my own gas and due often,,,but not if it means more folks losing work (this from a somewhat consevative right leaning independent)
This is New Jersey's biggest or top 10 issue right now?
never said that...but they are jobs and a pretty good number of jobs I would guess. And I heard the other day that NJ was actually near the bottom in Job creation last few years. Got enough people collecting government benefits for nothing. At least these peolple are working for a living.Who exactly is making a living by working as a gas station attendant? These people adapt and find other employment. Can't believe this is actually a debate.
You keep saying this, but if there is enough of a market for full-serve, why won't stations offer it? They should be able to raise prices to the point where it'll be just as profitable as self-serve. And people will pay those prices because full-serve is so much better than self-serve. and it's NJ, where people have plenty of money. Sure, maybe full-serve will go extinct in some areas, but the wealthy enclaves full of people that can't fathom dropping down so far as to pump their own gas - heaven forbid, what about my fur! - should opt for the full serve right?
Or is full-serve really so uncompetitive that the only way it can survive is to be artificially propped up by faulty laws? If so, the argument for self serve makes itself.
"The self-serve model is more profitable for the station-owner."
And that's really what this is all about.
the gas station model will change with self serve.
Currently we have a few kinds of stations:
- regular gas station with small snack area that sells gas at competitive prices
- gas station with service bays that may sell gas at inflated prices since the service bays are the main function of the station and not the gas sales
- gas station / convenience store set up (ie. Wawa) where the prices are competitive and they may not charge extra for credit.
The future model will be for the Wawa type stations and for the mechanic service bay stations to lower their prices since they will not need to hire someone to watch the bays. The gas only places will struggle a bit in comparison since the other 2 may be able to cut their margins more.
I personally prefer the Wawa stations because they don't charge extra for credit cards plus I typically pick up a drink to bring to work after I fill up. Many people buy coffee, cigarettes, and sandwiches for lunch after filling up.
Yeah, except that it was station owners that pushed the ban on self-serve through to begin with.
Want a laugh? Paid $101 for 12 gallons of Regular gas on Sunday at Budget car rental "return" outlet at EWR airport. Fill up transacted by a professional attendant. Wow-eeee. This included a $20 "security fee." Say what? That’s the price of convenience, I guess, Jersey-style. Of course, I could have filled up at one of the many conveniently located, easily accessible service stations surrounding the airport. Hehehe....
That's your fault for not filling the car up beforehand. You signed a contract that if you don't return the car with the same amount of fuel it started with you'll end up paying like 8 bucks a gallon. If you took the turnpike depending where you came on you easily could've passed 3-4 gas stations.[/QUOT
Pumped my own gas for decades in NYS. You can have it, especially in the winter with freezing temps., wind & snow.