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Bikers claim they need loud pipes to be safe on the road, although such loud pipes are illegal in most jurisdictions.
It seems to me, then, that if a vehicle can't be driven safely unless it is driven illegally, it should be by definition an illegal vehicle.
LOL. The vehicle is being driven safely. It is the driving of others that make it unsafe. Experienced motorcycle drivers learn how to avoid driving in others blind spots, something that a lot of automobile drivers are oblivious to.
I can see both sides of the OP's post. When I'm wanting to spend a quiet day relaxing, I find that a loud bike or car disrupts that. I've also seen a lot of car drivers drive carelessly and endanger motorcycle drivers of quiet bikes (including an incident last week where a distracted driver nearly downed a biker on the Interstate with a careless lane change for no apparent reason). The behavior of the biker determines my opinion in each case. Since the OP's peace was only "momentarily spoiled", I think he is the one who is wrong in this instance.
They were not reliable bikes back in the 70`s and 80`s when the old panheads and shovelheads were leaking oil all the time. The Evo engine changed all that decades ago. Do you have any opinion based in fact or just an obvious axe to grind with the brand?Harleys aren't even good bikes lol.
If I'm looking for a quite afternoon in a cafe, I don't go to a cafe on a busy city street.
I've been places where loud motorcycles have driven by, and I thought they were too loud. But they were there and out of ear shot within 10 to 30 seconds. So it is really no big deal.
I have also been other places where riders would be stopped at a traffic light and rev their engines, making noise. (I've also heard cars do the same thing.) There is no call for that, regardless of whether the vehicle is within noise ordinances or not. It is just rude. And if the vehicle is violating noise ordinances, then it is rude and illegal.
I have also been in outdoor cafes on roads that are heavily traveled by motorcycles, cars, buses, or trucks. If the driver is operating their vehicle properly (e.g., not needlessly revving their engine as stated above), and the vehicle is within noise ordinance limits, then there is not too much you can do about it. If I'm looking for a quite afternoon in a cafe, I don't go to a cafe on a busy city street.
Stop sticks should solve the problem.Don't like the loud noise. Our farm is on a lightly traveled road. They like to ride my road on the weekends because of this and it sucks to hear. We moved here for the peace and quiet as did my 5 neighbors who own farms. We are the only occupants on this road. We all hate these riders with the loud pipes.
Well, I'd call up another biker gang, tell them they're being disrespected, then sit back and enjoy the mayhem while I sipped on my single malt scotch with a splash of water.What about when 50 bikers with extremely loud pipes come down a city street in Hoboken at a slow speed, revving their engines, setting off car alarms, on a Saturday afternoon.
What about when 50 bikers with extremely loud pipes come down a city street in Hoboken at a slow speed, revving their engines, setting off car alarms, on a Saturday afternoon. Not exactly 10 to 30 seconds of noise. More like 15 minutes or more before the last car alarm is silenced. Why would anyone think this is a good idea? I can assure you those same drivers would be fighting mad if someone did that to them when they were at home. Sitting by the road at an outdoor cafe with traffic going by? You absolutely expect noise. Trucks are louder than cars. But the ear splitting noise from some of the cycles is obnoxious. Not what a reasonable person would expect.
Well I thought that's what all this nonsense about LOUD PIPES was all about that they are illegal.Who said anything about legal?:sunglasses: