ACC (& SEC) stay with 8 Conference game schedule

[Abro1975]

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...cially-sticking-with-eight-game-league-slate/

Plus ACC only requires their members to play only 1 P5 OOC game.

On Sirius this morning Neuheisal was saying this puts the BIG10 mid tier and lower programs at a severe disadvantage getting to 6 wins and a Bowl.

BIG 10 soon won't its members play any FCS teams. While the PAC12 and BIG 12 also play 9 Conference games, pretty sure they will continue to play FCS teams.

I don't think Delaney will waiver, but start missing multiple Bowl games in a row can kill a program. No extra practices and development, no extra enthusiasm around the program's fan base.

ACC and SEC can pretty much schedule 8 home games almost every year w lots of cream puffs.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

Good move...

 

[Caliknight]

Amateurs. The B1G leading the way, as usual.

 

[RUSK97]

If it affects the playoff picture down the road, the B1G might have to go back.

 

[ivan brunetti]

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...cially-sticking-with-eight-game-league-slate/

Plus ACC only requires their members to play only 1 P5 OOC game.

On Sirius this morning Neuheisal was saying this puts the BIG10 mid tier and lower programs at a severe disadvantage getting to 6 wins and a Bowl.

BIG 10 soon won't its members play any FCS teams. While the PAC12 and BIG 12 also play 9 Conference games, pretty sure they will continue to play FCS teams.

I don't think Delaney will waiver, but start missing multiple Bowl games in a row can kill a program. No extra practices and development, no extra enthusiasm around the program's fan base.

ACC and SEC can pretty much schedule 8 home games almost every year w lots of cream puffs.

I believe you can still schedule MAC and Sunbelt cupcakes. Would you really want more than two per season?

 

[topdecktiger]

You can't schedule 8 home games a year and still play a P5 team.

Also, the ACC had to stay at 8 for a reason.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

ACC took a $500,000 pay cut per school in order to avoid competition.

 

[topdecktiger]

ACC took a $500,000 pay cut per school in order to avoid competition.

No they didn't. The reason the ACC stuck with 8 game is because Clemson, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Louisville raised hell about going to 9. That's because those 4 schools would have to give up a home game. Clemson and Florida St in particular make several million dollars off of home games. So, its lose ~$4 million vs. $500k.

 

[MGSA99]

And what do Clemson, FSU, GT, and Louisville all have in common? They all play an SEC rival at the end of the year, mandating at least one home-and-home forever.

 

[topdecktiger]

And what do Clemson, FSU, GT, and Louisville all have in common? They all play an SEC rival at the end of the year, mandating at least one home-and-home forever.

That's the point. They couldn't schedule another P5 team without giving up a home game, because they are already locked in with the in-state rivals.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

No they didn't. The reason the ACC stuck with 8 game is because Clemson, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Louisville raised hell about going to 9. That's because those 4 schools would have to give up a home game. Clemson and Florida St in particular make several million dollars off of home games. So, its lose ~$4 million vs. $500k.

Good for you guys, but how is that a good deal for the rest of the schools?

 

[RUBigFrank]

Creates less TV inventory with eight games.

Nine games may not hurt middle tier teams as it puts 14 more wins in the conference.

SEC sticking with the double cupcake strategy.

 

[NorthNJRUFan]

Every B1G team will be thanking Delaney for mandating no FCS schools when the increase in TV money comes in

 

[MozRU]

And what do Clemson, FSU, GT, and Louisville all have in common? They all play an SEC rival at the end of the year, mandating at least one home-and-home forever.

I can appreciate those rivalry games on the last day of the year. Throw in OSU/Mich. It adds so much drama to the end of the year - where most don't do that because they fear it will hurt their post season aspirations.

Ok/Texas and CO/CSU totally punk out playing in the beginning of the year.

 

[Abro1975]

With 9 In Conference and no FCS OOC games, while the home games will be better to watch, a larger percentage of Big10 teams Will Not get to 6 wins to qualify for a Bowl. For some teams like RU, Purdue, Illinois etc etc this could have a very negative short term and long term effect, should going without a Bowl for 2 years or more occur.

I would like to see all the P5 conferences have the same 8 or 9 game in Conf scheduling and either all or none of the conferences schedule FCS.

Make it an equal playing field.

 

[RUBigFrank]

nine conference games ensures 14 wins - as 14 teams in conference will play each other. This may help leverage more conference teams reaching 6 wins -

1. Increases TV inventory - more money
2. Increases Bowl fees - more money
3. Increases more interesting match ups (meaning a Purdue instead of Howard) more tix sales - more money.

 

[The Evil Empire 88]

I don't know if this helps or hurts RU. I am not that smart, but as a season holder I for one will be glad to be rid of the Howards and Norfolk states of the world would much rather play a MAC or AAC school then them.
now a question, will playing 9 conference games affect the amount of home games we have?

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

With 9 In Conference and no FCS OOC games, while the home games will be better to watch, a larger percentage of Big10 teams Will Not get to 6 wins to qualify for a Bowl. For some teams like RU, Purdue, Illinois etc etc this could have a very negative short term and long term effect, should going without a Bowl for 2 years or more occur.

I would like to see all the P5 conferences have the same 8 or 9 game in Conf scheduling and either all or none of the conferences schedule FCS.

Make it an equal playing field.

No one cares or watches those FCS games. Ticket sales for those games are garbage and TV ratings are lowest of any games.

The truth is that Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois etc can get creative by schedule bad FBS teams instead.

 

[RUfinal4]

9 games is positive and negative

Negative
- B10 teams will be beating each other. Rutgers will play a team like illinois which ensures one of the 2 will lose. If they didn't play it is possible Rutgers would schedule UMass while Illinois schedules N Ill which can lead to both B10 teams getting wins. This can lead to an extra 1-2 teams each season being bowl eligible.
- With bought games it ensures the Big 10 tv contracts get extra games to televise


Positive
- While there may be less overall B10 home games and overall wins it does lead to more enticing tv match-ups. Rutgers vs Illinois is better for tv partners vs Ill vs N Ill or Rutgers vs UMass.
- With more internal inventory and guaranteed B10 matchups will lead to more money in the tv contracts. While Rutgers vs Illinois is not a top matchup getting Nebrasks / Wisconsin vs Ohio St / Michigan more often leads to more top matchups
- Fans buying season tickets get better value when they know they are getting up to 5 B10 match-ups each year .

 

[vkj91]

Every B1G team will be thanking Delaney for mandating no FCS schools when the increase in TV money comes in

pretty sure that's already off the table. Teams have continued to schedule them.

 

[ivan brunetti]

No they didn't. The reason the ACC stuck with 8 game is because Clemson, Florida St, Georgia Tech and Louisville raised hell about going to 9. That's because those 4 schools would have to give up a home game. Clemson and Florida St in particular make several million dollars off of home games. So, its lose ~$4 million vs. $500k.

You are really only giving up half a home game. 4 conference home games in year one, & then 5 conference home games in year two. Replacing some cupcake like Coastal Carolina. So the difference is closer to $1.5 million per year.

 

[ivan brunetti]

No one cares or watches those FCS games. Ticket sales for those games are garbage and TV ratings are lowest of any games.

The truth is that Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois etc can get creative by schedule bad FBS teams instead.

The reason that programs like the cupcake games (any team that will give you a game at home without requiring you to go play at their place in return) is that they boost the bottom line. An extra home game can add anywhere from $2-5 million. That pays for a lot of golf, tennis, baseball, etc equipment.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Also good for Pitt.

Pitt can now try to schedule Penn State, WVU, Notre Dame and possibly an SEC/PAC team into some type of in and out reoccurring series (OOC-one or two games per year) with these teams in future schedules.

Examples:
2016: Penn State, Oklahoma State
2017: Penn State, Oklahoma State
2018: Penn State, Notre Dame
2022: Tennessee, WVU
2023: WVU, Notre Dame
2025: WVU, Notre Dame

Would also like to schedule 7 home games every year.

Same reasons why Florida State (Florida), Clemson (South Carolina), Louisville (Kentucky), Georgia Tech (Georgia) wanted to say with the 8 ACC Conference Game Schedule to make it easier to retain their in state rival games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[RUBigFrank]

My bad - its not 14 more games - it is 7 more games for the conference in conference. But it is seven wins for the conference rather than a chance of a loss if there were 14 non conference game opponents. So yes it could hurt bowl chances. but does create more interesting games.

 

[ru78]

I believe you can still schedule MAC and Sunbelt cupcakes. Would you really want more than two per season?

You do jeopardize losing out on the top four rankings with cream puffs on schedule
Based on what I heard on the Big Ten network yesterday at noon

 

[topdecktiger]

Good for you guys, but how is that a good deal for the rest of the schools?

For the other schools, it's basically irrelevant. The other schools aren't really "losing" any money. They still get the same amount of money they get now, plus whatever the network will pay out. For Clemson/FSU/GT/Louisville, they actually lose $3-4+ million from what they make now, due to losing home games. That's probably around what the network will pay out, so those schools would be essentially losing all their network money due to losing a home game.

You are really only giving up half a home game. 4 conference home games in year one, & then 5 conference home games in year two. Replacing some cupcake like Coastal Carolina. So the difference is closer to $1.5 million per year.

No, this is not accurate. Here's how it works:

Year one:
4 conference + 3 OOC = 7 home games
5 conference = 5 away games

Year Two:
5 conference + 2 OOC = 7 home games
4 conference + 1 OOC = 5 away games

You only have 1 OOC game that can rotate. That game is already taken up by the rival game. So if you play another P5 team OOC, then you have to give up a home game. So for example, if Clemson doesn't want to give up a home game, then they can never play another P5 team except for South Carolina. If they do want to play another P5 team, then they have to give up a home game, which is $3-4 million that you're losing.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

SIAP:

ACC Commish tells ESPN crew that "flexibility" was the reason they stayed at 8. Gee....REALLY???

 

[motorb54]

DELANY.... ... not Delaney

 

[koleszar]

Also good for Pitt.

Pitt can now try to schedule Penn State, WVU, Notre Dame and possibly an SEC/PAC team into some type of in and out reoccurring series (OOC-one or two games per year) with these teams in future schedules.

Examples:
2016: Penn State, Oklahoma State
2017: Penn State, Oklahoma State
2018: Penn State, Notre Dame
2022: Tennessee, WVU
2023: WVU, Notre Dame
2025: WVU, Notre Dame

Would also like to schedule 7 home games every year.

Same reasons why Florida State (Florida), Clemson (South Carolina), Louisville (Kentucky), Georgia Tech (Georgia) wanted to say with the 8 ACC Conference Game Schedule to make it easier to retain their in state rival games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Yes you guys are scheduling P5 schools. But then you have N. Carolina scheduling two FCS schools a year. If your going to have an 8 game conference schedule then mandate you have to play two P5 OOC schools instead of one. Your commissioner simply made it so schools don't have to face the stiffest competition and can get to bowls easier. It's a cop out calling it flexibility.