Why bring extra pressure? When all you need to do is keep the play in front and tackle. Don’t want to be mean but why is #24 on the field? All they had to do was get the guy on the ground. I’m tired of the mediocrity, we are never going to get good. Now we get to listen to 40 straight losses against ranked teams. Absolutely pathetic.
An Alltime Dumb Defensive Call
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Well they were 0-18 on blitz pressure
Must’ve figured they were due
Maybe it’s just me , but it seems R blitzers look for contact instead of trying to avoid it and get to QB
Must’ve figured they were due
Maybe it’s just me , but it seems R blitzers look for contact instead of trying to avoid it and get to QB
Qb got nailed right as he let the ball go.
I’m still in shock.
GO RU
I’m still in shock.
GO RU
Missing a couple DBs because of injuries.
Guess #24 was next up.
If we're missing all these DBs why did we have Longerbeam on an island with #13 the entire game? Give the guy some help. If Illinois realized this earlier the game would not have even been close.
Their star WR killed our DBs ... up to the last play around 6 catches for around 150 yards along with several interference calls. He winds with 7 catches for 190 yards. How about keying on him at that point for the last play
The frustrating thing about it was we never changed our strategy to deal with him as it became obvious he was their primary and only weapon in the 2nd half.
Always positive - but I have to agree - epic mistake both on the FG time out and perhaps worse the defense set up on the final play - you just can't do that. Play for the tackle - game over. wtf
But but but he took the time out to make sure his team was completely prepared…….and they weren’t!
He couldn’t call another TO after the FG miss. You can’t call 2 consecutive TOs. So they called the wrong defense and brought extra pressure and didn’t commit to coverage and got burned. How many times did the DBs overrun plays today? It had to be a record. When the plays were critical, the defense stunk.
Exactly. The secondary has been mostly underwhelming most of this season.
And yes...#24 was awful on that last game-winning pass play.
Don't recall where 13 caught it, might have been enough for a 1st down but the coverage needed to be where they contain him for a catch at no more than 10 or so yards and then have to tackle him inside of 13 yards, or else the clock would have stopped for a reset. Which would have allowed a spike on 1st down and then the FG attempt on 2nd down for an easier shot at a winning kick.
#13 had 197 yards receiving. Longerbeam is the best we have. Of course Illinois knew about it earlier. He’s the only receiver who really did anything.
THE biggest issue I've had with the defense coaching all year. Made SOME changes but way to slow to adjust.
If it's Joe H that's not adjusting then let him go take the HC job at Temple and get a DC who doesn't believe in dying by 1000 paper cuts.
As with everything, GS controls absolutely all from big picture to most granular minutiae.
I'm not sure how the defense contains #13 to less than needed for a 1st without holding him (which they got called for numerous times). That being said, I still don't get the defensive call. Unless Illinois called for a quick pass near the sticks, it was going to be a 1st down, clock stops for the spot, spike, line up for fg try all day. We dropped 4 db's to cover 3 wr, plus dropped a lb. Linebacker dropped late and was too shallow to affect the play except to deter qb run. The db's had their heels on the line-to-gain but had to drop quickly once they realized the receivers were about to run past them. #13 caught the ball 5 yards beyond the sticks in front of all the dbs and cut in front of all their faces (db's also all took horrible angles).
Drop 7 or 8 and at least the qb has to drop the ball between two defenders. We were in a prevent TD mode and couldn't even do that.
The D couldn’t make a stop the entire 4th qtr. Prior to the last play, they had already given up 2 TDs in the 4th. All his TO did was to put pressure on his defense that was already gassed. Will never understand why he risked it.
No one will mistake this particular RU team for being well-coached on defense, special teams are overall.
197 yds on only 7 catches. and plenty of PI calls defending him. I'm not complaining about Longerbeam. I'm pointing out our defensive scheme continued to allow him to put him on an island to defend #13 w no help, even after it was clear he #13 was running free. And Illinois exploited it. You could see it pre snap.
Exactly. Why not safety help on Bryant? Why not go to a Jim Schwartz style Sticks D and guard the 1st down line? Cover 0 was as awful a call as full blown Prevent would've been.
No matter what, the time out made no sense. That’s what I keep coming back to. If you were worried about a fake you do the TO before they set up. Your D is beat, you have first year players out there due to injuries. Your D has already given up 20+ points on the 2nd half.
Let them kick the ball and end the game. At that point the odds it is good is slim to none. Feel for the players, and especially the seniors.
Let them kick the ball and end the game. At that point the odds it is good is slim to none. Feel for the players, and especially the seniors.
Drop into 8 man coverage, QB has to move around in the pocket before getting a pass off, no timeouts left, complete a pass and get tackled. Game over. Is that so hard to figure out??
Think it was on the BTN Final Drive- he had 160 yards after catch.
Sort of. Was absolutely no chance of a fake there. 4th and 13, 14 seconds left at the 40. Needing 13 yards and getting out of bounds on a fake. Never. Well if Schiano were HC maybe. But no credible coach would call a fake there.
Schiano’s suggestion of that is absurd. He knows that. But it’s the only excuse he could invent.
Pure and simple, no kicker in history would make that kick and Schiano blew the game.
This no double teams and #13 ran open all day and burned us. Coaching staff on D was atrocious.
Scapegoats are a beautiful thing. You're blaming a true freshman (Levy) who was responsible for the sideline in that zone defense and are completely ignoring that Loyal, a graduating senior, took the first bad angle and should have stopped him close to where the catch was made?
Even if the tackle is made, the clock stops and they have time to spike the ball in the 15-20 yd line area and set up for another FG. The only way we were winning the game was to sack the QB or force an incompletion. And they were likely playing zone instead of man because injuries left them with a redshirt freshman and true freshman as the main CBs late in the 4th quarter.
Meanwhile this game actually turned on Athan's fumble which led to an Illinois TD and put them back in the game. No one is even focused on that turning point or the ton of bad plays between balls not caught and defensive mistakes all game. Lots happened before the TO and the final play that got them to the point where the game was on the line and ultimately lost.
The uneven officiating didn't help either but I'm sure Illinois was just as peeved with them as we were.
You seem to be missing the part about the clock stops after a first down then they spike the ball & get a shorter field goal attempt to win the game
I’m certainly not one that scapegoats people. I asked why was he on the field? That is a coaching decision and gets back to the lack of depth in year 5? Why do we have a freshman CB on the field in an absolute critical situation? We don’t have another CB who understands the situation on the roster? Give me a break, I don’t disagree that the fumble changed momentum. But they took the lead with a 1:08 left! Stop somebody! It’s a defensive led coaching staff! This loss is on the coaching staff, stop with the apologies.
We lost Rogers, then Longerbeam and I'm not sure what Salaam's status was at that point. Mascoe and Levy were the two primary CBs late in the game so it's possible RU was without CBs 1, 2 & 4. It's not normal to have to go to your 5th CB to finish out a tight game.
Kid made the same mistake that we've seen Kaj Sanders make a lot this year. Kaj though was getting snaps most games and the last few weeks seems to have finally fixed that issue. Levy was playing his first non-garbage time snaps, so you can't expect him to play at the same level as Sanders or others playing weekly.
Playing only 3 rushers makes it harder to complete a 13 yard pass. Spiking the ball is not a concern if you don’t get the first down
What I don't get is TV Replay clearly showed Kaliakmanis recovering the fumble and in possession at the bottom of the pile. At some point after Replay ends the Illinois LBer ripped the ball away from Kaliakmanis prior to Refs untangling the pile of bodies to discover an Illinois player with the ball. Why no Official Review in which case the Replay that they showed on the TV broadcast is clear as to who recovered.
Greg has always favored the last second timeout to freeze the kicker. What should have made this decision different is the distance and high wind factor. And if he thought about it, even if they kicked again, they had a better idea of the wind factor.
No one was more surprised about the timeout than Bielema and he said so right after the game. Now he is a quicker thinker on his feet than Greg. He said - I just see my FG kicker miss it , the wind is a big minus- the odds are better just to go for it. Get a first down and make the FG kick easier. Scoring the TD was a bonus. Not double teaming Bryant was a big mistake.
Also as said earlier, the replay showed Ak recovered his own fumble. don't know if it is reviewable, but it should have been.
No one was more surprised about the timeout than Bielema and he said so right after the game. Now he is a quicker thinker on his feet than Greg. He said - I just see my FG kicker miss it , the wind is a big minus- the odds are better just to go for it. Get a first down and make the FG kick easier. Scoring the TD was a bonus. Not double teaming Bryant was a big mistake.
Also as said earlier, the replay showed Ak recovered his own fumble. don't know if it is reviewable, but it should have been.
