Went to speak to Gruninger about the hire before it happened right after the interview. Had been called by a friend of mine who sat on the U of P athletic council and was a big deal in their alumni association. He told me Craig was the nicest guy going but was a disaster as a coach. They could not fire him because of alumni pressure but were not renewing his contract. Gave this info to Gruninger and the contact info for my friend and he told me Craig was his guy and Penn just wanted to keep him. I consequently got invited to his hoops camp and vividly remember speaking to both Craig and Tom Crowley for a while that evening. A lot of inner city kids from DC and Jersey at the camp and because of the vocabulary Craig used they had no idea what he was saying, it was over their heads. Was also invited to Wenzels first camp and it was night and day. Bob connected with the kids as he started with the line " imagine if you would that you are playing basketball for Rutgers Universirty and our team is in the final four".