Best college football team in each state
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Very interesting, thanks.
However, I will respectfully suggest that the best football team in NY is the Colgate Raiders.
However, I will respectfully suggest that the best football team in NY is the Colgate Raiders.
Choosing the best college football team in NY is akin to picking the finest basketball team in Lichtenstein
What about Buffalo? Didn't they have the #4 pick in the NFL draft 2 years ago. When was the last time a Syracuse player was picked in rd. 1?
Syracuse is still probably the best in NYS........Buffalo has had a few decent years and Colgate has the odd good year here and there(my Cornell usually beats them)........Army once in awhile.....but I think Syracuse would beat them...thats how BAD football is in NYS..
Well...Illinois, yes. Northwestern should have a hard time competing...small private college. Head-to-head, I don't think NW is any weaker than a BCU or Cuse. But goes to show you money doesn't solve all your problems!
As a proud alum of Colgate and its football team, I must take issue with your statement, good sir -- one that, I find, I hear often from ill-informed Cornell alums. Alas, as the saying goes, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
And the fact is, Colgate does not have the odd good year here and there. Indeed, Colgate has had only four losing seasons in the past 20 years. Also in the past 20 years, Colgate has won six Patriot League titles (finishing second eight times), participated in the NCAA playoffs seven times and finished as the runner up to national champion Delaware in 2003 (whose staff, I note, included Kyle Flood). (During the same period, by the way, Cornell has not won a single Ivy League championship -- in fact, it hasn't even come in second since 2000.)
Nor, most importantly, does Cornell usually beat Colgate. Far, far to the contrary. In the past 20 years, Colgate is 15-2 against Cornell. And, if you'd like to go back even further, in the past 35 years, Colgate is 25-5 against Cornell.
In closing, GO 'GATE!
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interesting - of course we all know the best football team in Syracuse is the Montreal Alouettes ...
Small, private, massively wealthy college. Northwestern's endowment is 138 times what Northern Illinois is. Northwestern makes in the neighborhood of 15 times what NIU does in TV revenue. They don't need to be Notre Dame (an even smaller private college), but yes they should be better than NIU.
And to think, not much beyond a decade ago, Monmouth and Princeton would've beaten us out on this list. :flushed:
Northwestern is definitely not weaker than the Cuse as we beat them three out of four in a recent series and slaughtered them both games in Evanston. Northern Illinois plays in the MAC, which inflates their record. They've beaten NU once in their history, last year when we had an atrocious start to the season. Should be pointed out that we killed Penn State at State College, beat Wisconsin and beat Notre Dame at South Bend last year before the injury bug killed us, so underestimate NU at your own peril.
Harvard was number one for a long time. And did I say that it was the only thing that influenced football results? The fact is, Northwestern has A LOOOOOOOOOT more money than UNI, they have every advantage possible except higher admission standards. Even with that in mind, with the resources at their disposal, there's no reason they should have a worse team than the MAC school down the road.
They don't have a worse team than the MAC school down the road. NIU would not be winning 10-11 games a year playing in the B1G. Yeah, they've won a couple of games against the B1G recently. Northwestern has won its last three games against the SEC. Does that mean we'd go in and dominate the SEC if we joined?
No, football success (to a point) is almost entirely about having enough resources AND institutional commitment. The latter of which a number of B1G programs lack. But, lots of money can buy lots of shiny new facilities, it can buy lots of branding and it can buy lots of propaganda. It's not a coincidence that Oregon's emergence came at the same time Phil Knight started throwing Scooge McDuck-type money at the program.
Absolutely no arguing with you there. The single most important factor in determining football success is sustained institutional support. And you can't have sustained institutional support without alumni support (else institutional support would not be sustained). IF you look to the SEC as an example, most of those schools have middling endowments similar to Rutgers. They are not rich schools supported by rich states. But the people surrounding the institution and the culture values college football and that's why it exists. The money is only a byproduct.
Big advantage the state schools have is the number of non-alums who hop onto the bandwagon of a successful program. I know a ton of Penn State fans who never set foot inside a classroom there. At places such as Northwestern and Vandy, non-alums are unlikely to identify with the school unless it becomes extraordinarily successful and will get off the bandwagon very quickly if things go south.
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