Big East football should have been proactive TCU, UH, Memphis

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Nope wrong.

Once again, you are making the mistake that winning games means something.

It means nothing.

Memphis will never develop a huge fan base, regardless of whether they are the BCS best of the rest representative. Same with Houston and they will be searching YET AGAIN for a new coach..
Temple has had a great year, and they will be looking for a new coach too. ECU, had a ton of empties the other day that I could see. Their appeal reaches about 1 mile around Greenville NC
There is nothing that can ever be done to make these teams popular, which is the only thing that matters.

They'd still probably be around if they did it right after Miami left. Rutgers would still probably be in The Big Ten, but Tha Big East could have been thriving Power Conference. College football today is any bodies ball game if you've got the right support and coaching staff. Houston can easily become The Next Miami. The city of Houston produces more NFL players than any city. The recruiting star system doesn't matter when you're dealing with those type of numbers and same goes for The Mid-Atlantic. Rutgers and Maryland were the combination gems of expansion and I believe combinations of Houston-SMU, Fresno-San Diego, and UCF-SFU could be great additions to a Power 5 conference. I hope expansion continue so brands like ECU, Tulane, UCONN, Temple and Cincinnati are giving a shot to be the brand they can all become.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Oh well.

 

[PatrickRU92]

Nope wrong.

Once again, you are making the mistake that winning games means something.

It means nothing.

Memphis will never develop a huge fan base, regardless of whether they are the BCS best of the rest representative. Same with Houston and they will be searching YET AGAIN for a new coach..
Temple has had a great year, and they will be looking for a new coach too. ECU, had a ton of empties the other day that I could see. Their appeal reaches about 1 mile around Greenville NC
There is nothing that can ever be done to make these teams popular, which is the only thing that matters.

 

[ecojew]

ESPN set out to destroy the BE and wasn't about to let the addition of those teams save the conference. The corporation is probably saving millions by not having to do its payouts to the BE.

As for ECU's empty seats - and I'm not one who drinks the ECU kool aid - if nothing else they indicate that a good chunk of their fan base commutes to games from further west in the state and couldn't make it to a Thursday night game. UCLA also had a crowd some 15,000 lower than usual for its weeknight game this week. ECU has the 2nd best fan base in the state after NC State but is not appealing to a P5 conference because it adds little in the way of TV sets.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

They'd still probably be around if they did it right after Miami left. Rutgers would still probably be in The Big Ten, but Tha Big East could have been thriving Power Conference. College football today is any bodies ball game if you've got the right support and coaching staff. Houston can easily become The Next Miami. The city of Houston produces more NFL players than any city. The recruiting star system doesn't matter when you're dealing with those type of numbers and same goes for The Mid-Atlantic. Rutgers and Maryland were the combination gems of expansion and I believe combinations of Houston-SMU, Fresno-San Diego, and UCF-SFU could be great additions to a Power 5 conference. I hope expansion continue so brands like ECU, Tulane, UCONN, Temple and Cincinnati are giving a shot to be the brand they can all become.

You are starting with the assumption that the power brokers in the Big East had some sort of desire to maintain a football presence - pretty sure they had no interest - it became pretty clear that the core faction that called the shots in the Big East was never truly comfortable with Football - nor would ever have supported anything associated with football that could have, in any way distracted from focus on basketball -

 

[MikeR0102]

It wouldn't have mattered in the long term, because any team would still have jumped for the bigger payouts of the ACC, Big 12 and Big Ten, but if they had added those 3 and UCF around 2008, it would be helping them even more now.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Memphis basketball can develop a huge fan base but their football can't? People in the city of Memphis are going to want to be entertained as well. If Memphis football is competing in a power 5 they'll come out and support their city. Houston and SMU are in cities that produces talent and could be a great addition to any power conference trying to crack a new TV Market.

 

[PatrickRU92]

Memphis basketball can develop a huge fan base but their football can't?

Yes. bball arenas hold under 20k. If you have 15K rabid fans that live locally (like Memphis) you can fill up an arena easily. Put 15k in the LIberty Bowl and it will look a lot like the Liberty Bowl has looked for Memphis football games over the years.

Houston and SMU are in cities that are owned by the Longhorns, and will always be owned by the Longhorns.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

Yes. bball arenas hold under 20k. If you have 15K rabid fans that live locally (like Memphis) you can fill up an arena easily. Put 15k in the LIberty Bowl and it will look a lot like the Liberty Bowl has looked for Memphis football games over the years.

Houston and SMU are in cities that are owned by the Longhorns, and will always be owned by the Longhorns.

Baylor and TCU are in state supposedly own by The Longhorns but they didn't curl up and die, did they? Memphis is a far more affluent and populated city than Knoxville and I'm sure they'll support their Tigers just as Louisville supports their Cardinals.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

You think Ohio State wants to see Cincinnati in The SEC? I don't care how secure you think OSU is, a SEC Cinncinati team is a direct threat to The Buckeyes and the whole B1G just as A&M to The SEC was to The Longhorns.

Pat you said those cities will always be Longhorn cities because you're stuck on tradition. People from major cities can careless about traditions. They just want to be entertained. I sawJohnny Football become more popular in The State of Texas than any Longhorn or Dallas Cowboy. Tradition is nothing but a nickel holding up a dollar. It's any bodies ball game these days.

 

[PatrickRU92]

I sawJohnny Football become more popular in The State of Texas than any Longhorn or Dallas Cowboy. Tradition is nothing but a nickel holding up a dollar. It's any bodies ball game these days.

Texas A & M >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SMU and Houston combined

 

[PatrickRU92]

Bamm traditions aren't going away.

Memphis would need about 40 years of sustained success to even begin in ingrain themselves into southern football culture. And that is IMPOSSIBLE--meaning it simply can't happen. They will not have the $ or TV exposure of the power 5, and as soon as they gain success they will lose their entire coaching staff and have to start over--which will happen at the end of this year.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Memphis basketball can develop a huge fan base but their football can't? People in the city of Memphis are going to want to be entertained as well. If Memphis football is competing in a power 5 they'll come out and support their city. Houston and SMU are in cities that produces talent and could be a great addition to any power conference trying to crack a new TV Market.

You're forgetting something: just like Tampa, where there are STILL many, many more Gator fans than USF fans, Memphis residents - even many Memphis hoops fans - are Vol Football fans.

 

[RUSK97]

WTH OP? You've been around long enough to know the Big East brass didn't want football success because it posed a threat to BB.