But you didn't answer the question. Why bother doing everything you stated IF he knew Barnwell was under investigation?
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But you didn't answer the question. Why bother doing everything you stated IF he knew Barnwell was under investigation?
You're going to argue that it is because they won in the early 2000s? So, where was the giving for the last 60 years prior? They "won" then too. Multiple national championships, multiple Heisman winners, dozens of All Americans, dozens of national championships in non-revenue sports, hundreds of All Americans in non revenue sports. So, why the ascension now? Nothing to do with righting a historically weak academic ship? Nothing to do with university leadership focused on academics?
Why was RU considered a public Ivy for 185 years and then saw it's reputation decline in the late 90s and 2000s? When I was a senior in HS, RU was ranked 36th in the country. USNWR couldn't find USC with a road map then.
This is far more nuanced than alums give because of the football team.
Idk. I think it has more to do with the weakened state of our secondary under Flood and the desperate need to keep a high caliber, experienced player on the field.
Is this your first year of following Flood?
Why leave Nova in to throw 7 interceptions against Kent State in 2012?
Stubbornness and poor decision making is a pattern of behavior that Flood has demonstrated for the last 4 years.
I've made that point elsewhere. Of course his desperation to shore up a known weak position group factored in. That goes ot my point. Losing Barnwell, both in perception (4 star recruit flunks out) and in technical skill (best player in a weak position group) was the basis for HCKF losing his mind with this stunt. Not some Father Flanigan, he gives to the MIracle Network and plays softball for charity with Boomer and Carton, he would do this for EVERYBODY routine.
He wouldn't do this for everyone. He did this out of pure desperation.
And let's see what the NCAA has to say about his actions before some of you enshrine him in the "man of character" HOF.
Speaking of which Cali, if and when the NCAA comes down on us, does that change your POV in any way?
I wish I had a nickel for every post I read that had "Schiano is too stubborn" somewhere in it. It's a popular catchphrase around here.
To be clear, after reading much of the report, I'd have had no big problem if Barchi had fired him. If you're going to suspend and then fire him down the road it's just more bad decision making by the powers that be. I think all the 3 games suspension does is hurt the team and the kids on it. It's too long to go with essentially 2 HC's, one for practice and one for games. IMO, it's confusing and disruptive.
Where I disagree is the thought that it was only because it was Barnwell. From everything I've read and heard it seems Flood could not let go of one of his "kids" and jeopardized his job doing it. If he had dumped Barnwell, Peele, and Johnson like many of the "names" would have done most of this wouldn't have happened.
Isn't the great defection of recruits of 2013 also linked to this mess? Not in a legal proximate cause way, but in a trailing but for causation. But for all the de-commits in 2013 we probably wouldn't of offer scholarships to some of these players. Maybe? I'm not so sure about it, my memory of all that stuff is a bit foggy, but it seems like a lot of these things might be connected in some attenuated way. If true, we're still feeling the fall out of the Mike Rice scandal, in a way. I might be wrong on all of this, but it's an interesting perspective.
I honestly don't know which of the disastrous players recently dismissed are from that class. For one thing, if I'm remembering correctly, that defection was following the 2013 "Fire Flood" season, but it was actually the recruiting class of 2014.
Okay, follow-up.
Andre Boggs (alleged felon) and Darian Dailey (alleged felon) were in the class of '14.
But holy shit, that's only part of the story. This is the class of '14, as signed LOIs:
Marcus Applefield
Donald Bedell
George Behr
Sam Blue
Andre Boggs
Tariq Cole
Darian Dailey
Sidney Gopre
Saquan Hampton
Zack Heeman
Joshua Hicks
Jimmy Hogan
Jacob Kraut
Logan Lister
Kamren Lott
Alan Lucy
Eric Margolis
Robert Martin
Justin Nelson
Giovanni Rescigno
Brandon Russell
Jacquis Webb
Isaiah Wharton
Eric Wiafe
Kevin Wilkins
8 of the 25 players who signed LOIs 2 years ago aren't on the team anymore.
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185 years? RU wasn't even a public school for 185 years. We all know the statistics USNWR uses. It's not rocket science.
But you can add Justin Nelson to the list as he never even made it here. So we're back to 9. Besides Behr and Rescigno, everyone else on that list is on the 2 deep, so I'm not sure what to make of the class.
The word "appreciative" is the problem here. That could easily be taken as a bribe in the offing. Obviously, Flood did not bribe the guy, otherwise we'd be hearing all about that. Instead of being fined $50K, if he have brought $5K with him to that meeting in Princeton we may have never heard a thing about it.
Please keep in mind, I am not suggesting he should have done that. Not at all. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that in many places, that is exactly how it is done.. with some "friend of the program" bringing the cash. And in many more places, like UNC, you hire faculty that are "friends of the program" and they get a regular paycheck, probably good seats, and that's that.
If anything, this whole fiasco goes to show just how far we are away from being a truly out-of-control program. Everything seems to work right here.. other than some thug-wannabes sneaking by recruiters. Players who commit crimes get arrested, suspended and booted... players who do not make grades actually fail. A coach steps over the line, ill-intent or not, and he gets suspended and fined. It is all working.
To your earlier point, I first became aware of USC's "power" when an anti-terrorism school was awarded to USC. Honestly, I was flabbergasted. Terrorist attacks touching on Boston, New York, New Jersey and Virginia/DC/Maryland.. and the anti-terrorism school gets awarded to.. CALIFORNIA and USC.
That was some crazy electioneering I figured.. but why private USC and not UCLA or Cal? Surely Cal must have the better languages schools... certainly Rutgers.. who had former students involved in terrorist acts as well as being plunk down in the middle of what might be the most diverse county outside of Manhattan... with a large languages department... and an existing cooperative arrangement with Princeton in many areas.. and easy access to DC and NYC and the whole eastern corridor... it was just insane that USC got the nod.
I think a lot of R problem is that the politicians from New Jersey are in the pocket of the Democrat Party machine. They do not use their votes to support New Jersey. They use their votes for friends and for the party.
Flood is a terrible football coach for multiple reasons! Why is there such support for him?! Don't give me the answer that "it is because he represents Rutgers". Blind loyalty is stupidity! No one should blindly support their academic institution. You support your school for several reasons...but the love affair with every suspended athlete, coach etc at RUTGERS REGARDLESS OF THEIR INTEGTITY, INEPTNESS, ETC IS UNREAL! AND YES...I HAVE MULTIPLE DEGREES FROM RU. I'm sick of all of you! Signed...n old timer who maintains integrity.
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