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Booster comment on Jordan's and fans call for change or no change

RU-Choppin-Ohio

RU-Choppin-Ohio

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With all the persistence and repetition of the Jordan must go crowd it looks like their crusade is not having the desired results they were hoping for in convincing the fanbase that change is needed. If you read this message board the negative crowd, led by the main crusader ( he knows who he is, lol ) makes it seem like anyone with a different opinion stands alone or are part of an extremely small minority.


Matt Sugam ‏@MattSugam 13h13 hours ago

Matt Sugam Retweeted Jon Newman

Rutgers booster in regards to keeping Eddie Jordan or not



Jon Newman‏@jonnew 14h14 hours ago


@MattSugam Fan base is more split on this than one would think.
 
I don't do the twitter thing but from those couple of links I don't get your point. Guys says "folks more split on this than you'd think" and that is a ringing endorsement for Eddie and everyone on the side of change is in the minority? I must be mis-understanding or reading this.

I think this is 50-50 or even definitely leaning 75-25 for Eddie to come back. Question is about the contract...(which I hope is left as is for 1 year and put it on him to do something next year or go).
 
What Corey wants should not matter even if he is the best talent we've had on the banks for some time. Considering the program was in the worse shape ever when Eddie got here I don't know how he landed the Corey and the rest of that class.
 
The Op isnt even making sense..everyone knows there is a split in opinion and how is one tweet by a rutgers supporter which takes no sides signifying anything
 
One of our biggest and most vocal Flood boosters was openly on the record and in the press wanting Flood back.
 
RU-Choppin-Ohio said:
With all the persistence and repetition of the Jordan must go crowd it looks like their crusade is not having the desired results they were hoping for in convincing the fanbase that change is needed. If you read this message board the negative crowd, led by the main crusader ( he knows who he is, lol ) makes it seem like anyone with a different opinion stands alone or are part of an extremely small minority.


Matt Sugam ‏@MattSugam 13h13 hours ago

Matt Sugam Retweeted Jon Newman

Rutgers booster in regards to keeping Eddie Jordan or not



Jon Newman‏@jonnew 14h14 hours ago


@MattSugam Fan base is more split on this than one would think.
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Wow - hard hitting stuff
 
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There is ZERO chance Eddie is let go. ZERO. He could lose all the remaining games and he would not be let go. He is going to get a chance to prove himself next season with a healthy and full roster, period.
 
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I have a feeling Jordan will be back. The point is what happens if there are more injuries or those current injuries don't heal correctly and they effect next year? How long do the injury excuses last?
 
1984 said:
I don't do the twitter thing but from those couple of links I don't get your point. Guys says "folks more split on this than you'd think" and that is a ringing endorsement for Eddie and everyone on the side of change is in the minority? I must be mis-understanding or reading this.

I think this is 50-50 or even definitely leaning 75-25 for Eddie to come back. Question is about the contract...(which I hope is left as is for 1 year and put it on him to do something next year or go).
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The point is clear, it's about how the "Jordan must go" crowd views anyone with a different opinion on THIS message board.

If you read this message board that crowd makes it seem like anyone with a different opinion is stupid, is crazy, is a friend of Jordan, is a shill , etc and......... part of an extremely small minority. In reality, the fan base is split. They think their opinion is 100% correct and everyone else is wrong....that's arrogance. There are two normal posters in this thread that are the most arrogant posters I have ever seen on any message board. They want everyone to know their opinion is the only one that matters, that's why they say the same thing over and over....I will not mention their names.....Back, roman...lol . Greed is Good, Arrogance is NOT good.

No one said it was a ringing endorsement. that was not the reason for the thread.
 
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RocktheRac said:
I have a feeling Jordan will be back. The point is what happens if there are more injuries or those current injuries don't heal correctly and they effect next year? How long do the injury excuses last?
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I agree Jordan will probably be back mainly for financial reasons and also it moves back the time for the practice facility to be built.No new coach will be interested in Rutgers unless that facility is built by the second year of his tenure.Kicking the can down the road clearly still is in place.
 
RocktheRac said:
I have a feeling Jordan will be back. The point is what happens if there are more injuries or those current injuries don't heal correctly and they effect next year? How long do the injury excuses last?
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As long as it takes
 
lol @ Jon Newman...and I'd bet a poll shows otherwise (see: the majority of the fan base doesn't believe EJ can or is getting it done here AT THIS TIME...)

That being said everything I've heard is that Eddie gets another year almost without question.
 
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B1GNJHoops said:
Why weren't we .500 last season? We didn't have any significant injuries.
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How many .500 years over the last 20 years without injuries?

This is Not about low expectations, it's about why you expect .500 when we have never been a consistent .500 team. We all want more success, but, it takes time. Why are you holding Jordan to this .500 standard 2 years after Rice is the better question? I just think that's a little unreasonable.

We can certainly disagree on whether last years team was a .500 team....I don't think it was, but, it was about 4 or 5 wins away.
 
RU-Choppin-Ohio said:
How many .500 years over the last 20 years without injuries?

This is Not about low expectations, it's about why you expect .500 when we have never been a consistent .500 team. We all want more success, but, it takes time. Why are you holding Jordan to this .500 standard 2 years after Rice is the better question? I just think that's a little unreasonable.

We can certainly disagree on whether last years team was a .500 team....I don't think it was, but, it was about 4 or 5 wins away.
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RU-Choppin-Ohio said:
How many .500 years over the last 20 years without injuries?

This is Not about low expectations, it's about why you expect .500 when we have never been a consistent .500 team. We all want more success, but, it takes time. Why are you holding Jordan to this .500 standard 2 years after Rice is the better question? I just think that's a little unreasonable.

We can certainly disagree on whether last years team was a .500 team....I don't think it was, but, it was about 4 or 5 wins away.
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Because fans are acting like injuries are the reason we are not .500 this season
 
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B1GNJHoops said:
Because fans are acting like injuries are the reason we are not .500 this season
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I think going into this year many people saw upgrades at PG and PF. Some will disagree but I saw Sanders over Mack and Freeman over Jack....the bad Jack that wanted to take jump shots when Jordan wanted him to attack the basket. So, a roster without losing 3 bigs, a starting big hurting and with the development of Sanders and Laurent would be more competitive...not necessarily .500, but, certainly more competitive. Honestly, I think most would feel good about that a few years after Rice
 
Non-story. He'll be back next year. Look, no one wants Fast Eddie, Rutgers HOF point guard from the glory days, to be fired. It would be a great story if he was the HC who got his alma mater to start trending up. Hobbs combines that back story with the injuries and Coach Eddie stays.
 
RU-Choppin-Ohio said:
How many .500 years over the last 20 years without injuries?

This is Not about low expectations, it's about why you expect .500 when we have never been a consistent .500 team. We all want more success, but, it takes time. Why are you holding Jordan to this .500 standard 2 years after Rice is the better question? I just think that's a little unreasonable.

We can certainly disagree on whether last years team was a .500 team....I don't think it was, but, it was about 4 or 5 wins away.
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Yet some fans who say give Eddie another year are expecting .500 next year
 
Underdogs88 said:
How many scholarship players did we have last year? People forget what Rice did to our program.
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Kadeem Jack, Myles Mack, Junior Etou, Bishop Daniels. Malick Kone, DJ Foreman, Mike Williams, Greg Lewis, Shaq Doorson, Kerwin Okoro. 10.

Two partial qualifiers (Johnson and Diallo) and Justin Goode. And having them wouldn't have improved the team's record.
 
Have there been any public displays of disaffection at the RAC? Chants? Bags over heads? Drones pulling "Eddie must go" banners?
 
B1GNJHoops said:
Kadeem Jack, Myles Mack, Junior Etou, Bishop Daniels. Malick Kone, DJ Foreman, Mike Williams, Greg Lewis, Shaq Doorson, Kerwin Okoro. 10.

Two partial qualifiers (Johnson and Diallo) and Justin Goode. And having them wouldn't have improved the team's record.
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Exactly. Only 10. So we had two good seniors and a bunch a freshmen with some backup at best upperclassmen. Also our best player (Mack) had to play point because we didn't have a true PG.
 
Mr_Twister said:
Have there been any public displays of disaffection at the RAC? Chants? Bags over heads? Drones pulling "Eddie must go" banners?
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Nope. None of that is present at the RAC. Most supporters didn't expect a 500 season after the injuries. Do you really expect Williams to guard a big? I enjoy watching these kids spill their heart out on the court, and I will support them every minute.
 
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B1GNJHoops said:
So when is Jordan ever held accountable? It's really amazing to behold
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Look, I'm not happy we are losing either, but he deserves another year to fully implement his system. With all the injuries, Calipari could be our coach and the results wouldn't be much different. Next year we need to see a significant improvement otherwise it's time to move on.
 
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Underdogs88 said:
Look, I'm not happy we are losing either, but he deserves another year to fully implement his system. With all the injuries, Calipari could be our coach and the results wouldn't be much different. Next year we need to see a significant improvement otherwise it's time to move on.
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If cal was our coach our roster would look just a bit different
 
ruman said:
If cal was our coach our roster would look just a bit different
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Can't say you're wrong about that.
I also feel if Danny was the RU HC there might be some different faces on the roster , but can't
claim he would be doing much better in his third year.
But will say: I believe he could have had the job, but decided that his RI gig was better.
The RU MBB HC position doesn't seem to be on many coaches bucket list.
 
MADHAT1 said:
Can't say you're wrong about that.
I also feel if Danny was the RU HC there might be some different faces on the roster , but can't
claim he would be doing much better in his third year.
But will say: I believe he could have had the job, but decided that his RI gig was better.
The RU MBB HC position doesn't seem to be on many coaches bucket list.
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If Cal or Danny were our coach we wouldn't be 0-12 in conference and we wouldn't have been surprised GW played a 1-3-1 zone. We might only be 2-10, but there'd be some sort of urgency put on winning a game. Not complacency.
 
RutgersYay said:
If Cal or Danny were our coach we wouldn't be 0-12 in conference and we wouldn't have been surprised GW played a 1-3-1 zone.
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But Danny didn't want the job, that should tell you something about what he thought of his chance to succeed at RU.

Cal is as likely to take the RU job as Phil Jackson would , unless RU did some serious upgrading and pay above the going rate for his services.
Before Mike Rice was hired, rumor had it, Fran Fraschilla withdrew his name from consideration because RU wouldn't ( or couldn't) promise an upgrade to the basketball facilities.
The only thing that has changed, is now part of the money needed is coming, but shovels not in use yet to start that upgrade.

You can bet whoever replaces Jordan ( if he's let go after this season is over) , is someone with other P-5 choices, time and money will be a major factor and if Hobbs doesn't commit for the time needed and salary , RU will be left with candidates that are major gambles and will have a shorter honeymoon period than some gave Eddie, despite what he had to overcome and the lack of financial support for the RU MBB program over the years didn't help him either.
 
Next year with a Real and healthy roster at absolute best with all the breaks going our way which never happens, we finish 15-15, is That good enough In year four?
 
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