Bring in Rettig

[sct1111]

Rettig is nowhere near the savior of this offense that some make him out to be, nor was he last year. He has had all the opportunity to live up to his recruiting ranking and he's failed to do so. I highly doubt he starts this year simply because he's not good enough to beat out an average Laviano.

Both Rettig and Laviano are not really too good, period.

 

[Knight Shift]

Rettig is nowhere near the savior of this offense that some make him out to be, nor was he last year. He has had all the opportunity to live up to his recruiting ranking and he's failed to do so. I highly doubt he starts this year simply because he's not good enough to beat out an average Laviano.

Both Rettig and Laviano are not really too good, period.

And while it was hard to judge because the white team was the 2's and 4's, but after Laviano and Rettig, it did not look too good. Was hoping Gio would have looked better. Dare had a rough series, but he did throw one bullet for a completion.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

He'd be more black and blue than anything if they Didn't blow the whistle before sacks...the OLine is leaving a lot to be desired

The OL is going to be an issue whether some here want to admit it or not. Lost - by far - out best guy, our anchor, and learning a new system. Depth is sketchy, as well, bottom line.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Rettig is nowhere near the savior of this offense that some make him out to be, nor was he last year. He has had all the opportunity to live up to his recruiting ranking and he's failed to do so. I highly doubt he starts this year simply because he's not good enough to beat out an average Laviano.

Both Rettig and Laviano are not really too good, period.

Clueless. No one is saying Rettig is the savior, but everyone recognized Rettig never received a fair opportunity. How many times was Flood going to allow Laviano make mistake after mistake and not feel any pressure because he was Flood's chosen one before there was a competition.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Clueless. No one is saying Rettig is the savior, but everyone recognized Rettig never received a fair opportunity. How many times was Flood going to allow Laviano make mistake after mistake and not feel any pressure because he was Flood's chosen one before there was a competition.

"We decided before the game that we wouldn't make any changes at the position until the 4th quarter...."

'nuff said.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

The O-Line is horrible. These guys cannot play at B10 level. I think Cole will be surprisingly good, but mostly I expect them to struggle. I watched #90 Carter beat the RT, like a snare drum.

Oden plays next year Day 1. Not saying you start him Day 1, but you can spot him like Tressel spotted Pryor.

Put the pressure on Oden to make a contribution, Day 1. Meanwhile, you get Lewis in the fold, and start the process of moving on from a clearly inferior ladder of Rettig, Laviano, and the kid from Hobart.

 

[letterman]

I'll be ok with whoever ash chooses as qb.....it really doesn't matter as none of the current qbs are a fit for this system. The key word in this offense is option. Without a dual threat kid who can run the ball, there is no option and the defense will key on the rb and shut down the run game. We must be patient. It will take 2-3 years to get the right guy

 

[AreYouNUTS]

The O-Line is horrible. These guys cannot play at B10 level. I think Cole will be surprisingly good, but mostly I expect them to struggle. I watched #90 Carter beat the RT, like a snare drum.

Oden plays next year Day 1. Not saying you start him Day 1, but you can spot him like Tressel spotted Pryor.

Put the pressure on Oden to make a contribution, Day 1. Meanwhile, you get Lewis in the fold, and start the process of moving on from a clearly inferior ladder of Rettig, Laviano, and the kid from Hobart.

Oden is 6'5" 180. The kid is a twig and simply must put on weight before playing him against B1G D's.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

The O-Line is horrible. These guys cannot play at B10 level. I think Cole will be surprisingly good, but mostly I expect them to struggle. I watched #90 Carter beat the RT, like a snare drum.

Oden plays next year Day 1. Not saying you start him Day 1, but you can spot him like Tressel spotted Pryor.

Put the pressure on Oden to make a contribution, Day 1. Meanwhile, you get Lewis in the fold, and start the process of moving on from a clearly inferior ladder of Rettig, Laviano, and the kid from Hobart.

Pryor was one of the top recruited QBs in the country and had an insanely good offensive line and skill position players around him. You can't compare what they were able to do with him day 1 or season 1 and expect any semblance of similar results

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

Oden is 6'5" 180. The kid is a twig and simply must put on weight before playing him against B1G D's.

If Coach Ash is smart, he's telling Oden, that he should come in ready to play regardless.

You can spot a kid like Oden, Day 1.

If the offensive staff can't spot Oden Day 1, then clearly they're not the right guys for the job.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

If Coach Ash is smart, he's telling Oden, that he should come in ready to play regardless.

You can spot a kid like Oden, Day 1.

If the offensive staff can't spot Oden Day 1, then clearly they're not the right guys for the job.

They recruited, obviously they "spotted him," your comments make no sense.

Hey, I want the kid out there as well, but when he's ready.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

Oden is 6'5" 180. The kid is a twig and simply must put on weight before playing him against B1G D's.

Nuts, curious your opinion, do you think RU is better off this year
1) developing a hybrid offense this year around Laviano or Rettig's strengths that might be more of a Pro style just using grant more in space
2) trying to fit a square peg In a round hole and taking the beating this year but getting the whole offense the game experience of running the spread offense with whomever the QB might be in year 2
3) throwing Oden to the wolves and seeing what he has in year 1 and getting him real game experience if he is the best fit for the
Offense even if he might not be physically or mentally ready

Honest question, not trying to lead you into an answer

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

They recruited, obviously they "spotted him," your comments make no sense.

Hey, I want the kid out there as well, but when he's ready.

I think he is using "spot" to mean throw him in for certain plays to "spell" either laviano or rettig to keep the defense guessing...I THINK...

 

[sct1111]

Clueless. No one is saying Rettig is the savior, but everyone recognized Rettig never received a fair opportunity. How many times was Flood going to allow Laviano make mistake after mistake and not feel any pressure because he was Flood's chosen one before there was a competition.

I just don't understand why it's so hard for people on here to accept that Laviano just might have been the best option last year and might be this coming year as well. You have no idea what was going on behind the scenes, in the locker room, on the practice field. Rettig has had more than enough opportunities. If he beats out Laviano this year than good for him and I would be happy for someone to finally pull away in the QB race. To say he hasn't been given a fair shot is bs. He hasn't shown to separate himself in any way. It's a hard pill to swallow, but none of our QBs are very good. Laviano just may be the best we have.

Who cares if he was a 4 star recruit. If he can't hit a receiver, command the offense, or make the right reads then he's not deserving of being a starting QB in any offense.

 

[NickKnight 1]

Please know, Laviano totally missed on his two long passes. One
he over threw and one under threw Rettig completed his long passes,
and one for a touchdown. Just saying. Also Rettig had a great post game
press interview, saying amongst other things when classes are over
he has a personal trainer coming in, to help with training for this system.
Sounding positive all the way. On the other hand Laviano declared
himself unavailable to the press.
,

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

I think he is using "spot" to mean throw him in for certain plays to "spell" either laviano or rettig to keep the defense guessing...I THINK...

This would be correct. I keep forgetting that Nuts is a community college transfer. As he struggles with rudimentary stuff.

Meanwhile, it's clear the upcoming season is lost. Playing time is an investment, might as well invest in Oden. Pick his spots, and bring him along. Laviano/Rettig are terrible.

Btw, the WR's are awful. Patton and Co., couldn't even beat a pedestrian group of walk-on CB's yesterday.

if our QB/WR's couldn't beat walk-on CB's, what are we supposed to do when the bullets fly.

 

[Reppin_Jerz]

This would be correct. I keep forgetting that Nuts is a community college transfer. As he struggles with rudimentary stuff.

Meanwhile, it's clear the upcoming season is lost. Playing time is an investment, might as well invest in Oden. Pick his spots, and bring him along. Laviano/Rettig are terrible.

Btw, the WR's are awful. Patton and Co., couldn't even beat a pedestrian group of walk-on CB's yesterday.

if our QB/WR's couldn't beat walk-on CB's, what are we supposed to do when the bullets fly.

Usually we agree on things but...Nuts though he is sometimes agressive in his responses seems to have a good pulse on things most times...

also, wouldn't say it's a lost season, if the team
Isn't competitive it could be bad for recruiting, better to create an offense that fits the current skills of the experienced players on the team while he young guys learn the system.

WRs might not be as good as Carroo but they have skills that can be of good use in the right offense, get the ball to Grant in the open field, throw jump balls to Agudosi in the end zone, Matthews looks pretty good for a walk on

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I think he is using "spot" to mean throw him in for certain plays to "spell" either laviano or rettig to keep the defense guessing...I THINK...

Thanks. He could have made himself a tad more clear, however, but I appreciate your assist on this one.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

This would be correct. I keep forgetting that Nuts is a community college transfer. As he struggles with rudimentary stuff.

You really do have issues.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

Usually we agree on things but...Nuts though he is sometimes agressive in his responses seems to have a good pulse on things most times...

also, wouldn't say it's a lost season, if the team
Isn't competitive it could be bad for recruiting, better to create an offense that fits the current skills of the experienced players on the team while he young guys learn the system.

WRs might not be as good as Carroo but they have skills that can be of good use in the right offense, get the ball to Grant in the open field, throw jump balls to Agudosi in the end zone, Matthews looks pretty good for a walk on

Sorry my friend, but lost season is absolutely correct. Neither Rettig nor Laviano could beat a group of Walk-On Cornerbacks.

A decent QB and solid WR's would have eviscerated that group yesterday.

It's Magical Thinking at best to predict a scenario where our QB's/WR's will be better against elite cornerbacks.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

An awful lot of analytical coaches will - when trying to significantly develop a team- say
... if my most critical position is often just all over the place, I am going to have a hard time creating the consistency needed to improve the rest of the team"

If Laviano is consistently a "C+"
... and Rettig is unpredictably anywhere between "D- and B+"
- it would not be a surprise to see Rettig sitting
- - as much as Ash may want to produce instant results - he knows that there is a lot of growing that has to happen -
Ultimately he wants be able to plug an "A" QB into the offense - and by then he wants the offense to have grown to the "A" level as well.

I think Ash is just going turn up the intensity and hope for improvement and the emergence of true clear choice. September is down the road & lots can happen between now & then so this process is far from done.

 

[lighty]

Rettig is nowhere near the savior of this offense that some make him out to be, nor was he last year. He has had all the opportunity to live up to his recruiting ranking and he's failed to do so. I highly doubt he starts this year simply because he's not good enough to beat out an average Laviano

I'd bet that if you were a player in Rettig's situation -- went through an entire season and NEVER got the chance to see the field with the #1 wide receiver and basically saw the first half of a game exactly one time... yeah, you wouldn't think he had every opportunity in the world.

BTW, the only people who think (or thought) Rettig was the savior are those with some sort of grudge against the kid or who swear Laviano is the better QB. Everyone else simply wanted to see what Rettig could do in a REAL GAME situation with our best players. Flood never gave him that opportunity at all... and it likely cost him his job.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

An awful lot of analytical coaches will - when trying to significantly develop a team- say
... if my most critical position is often just all over the place, I am going to have a hard time creating the consistency needed to improve the rest of the team"

If Laviano is consistently a "C+"
... and Rettig is unpredictably anywhere between "D- and B+"
- it would not be a surprise to see Rettig sitting
- - as much as Ash may want to produce instant results - he knows that there is a lot of growing that has to happen -
Ultimately he wants be able to plug an "A" QB into the offense - and by then he wants the offense to have grown to the "A" level as well.

I think Ash is just going turn up the intensity and hope for improvement and the emergence of true clear choice. September is down the road & lots can happen between now & then so this process is far from done.

Yes, I agree. Coaches would take an Emmitt Smith over Barry Sanders every single time. Consistency even if mediocre is more important than Spectacular Talent.

still though, Rettig's ability to challenge CB's deep, is enough to tip the scales in his favor over a more consistent Laviano.

Points come in the passing game. At some point, you need the threat of actually being able to score.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

Yes, I agree. Coaches would take an Emmitt Smith over Barry Sanders every single time. Consistency even if mediocre is more important than Spectacular Talent.

still though, Rettig's ability to challenge CB's deep, is enough to tip the scales in his favor over a more consistent Laviano.

Points come in the passing game. At some point, you need the threat of actually being able to score.

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- Totally agree with the idea that when a limitation is being mercilessly exploited -you have to act - that was where Flood proved to be brain dead and was incapable of responding to serious adversity. There were points where it was imperative that something different be done ... yet nothing was.

Neither QB - based upon last night - is the long term answer.... they are both (as of now) seriously sub-optimal - the key issue will be that they will be serving as a surrogate for some "excellent" QB of the future - and the most important question may be - which one will provide for the greatest growth of the offensive squad?

If forced to chose - I'd pass up some incredible hard to explain fluky wins this coming year
- for a universal consensus that Rutgers is now playing amazingly solid, consistently well executed football ... and will begin to see durable greatness in the very near future

But I would rather chose to have consistent & highly talented QB play now ...

 

[lighty]

still though, Rettig's ability to challenge CB's deep, is enough to tip the scales in his favor over a more consistent Laviano.

Points come in the passing game. At some point, you need the threat of actually being able to score.

Not to mention one of our BIGGEST problems last year was the lack of separation by the wide receivers. With his problems throwing deep last year, RU essentially made it that much easier for defenses since they didn't have to worry about the deep pass.

 

[CranfordKnight]

I'd bet that if you were a player in Rettig's situation -- went through an entire season and NEVER got the chance to see the field with the #1 wide receiver and basically saw the first half of a game exactly one time... yeah, you wouldn't think he had every opportunity in the world.

BTW, the only people who think (or thought) Rettig was the savior are those with some sort of grudge against the kid or who swear Laviano is the better QB. Everyone else simply wanted to see what Rettig could do in a REAL GAME situation with our best players. Flood never gave him that opportunity at all... and it likely cost him his job.

You kind of hit on what really frustrates me about this board and the Laviano taint-lickers. If he earns the starting position under this regime, then congratulations, he earned it. But this idea that he is a great leader of men seems based solely on being annointed last year, and walking around like his crap don't stink. Rettig, on the other hand may not seem as confident leading the team because he was really held back. Like an abuse survivor slowly but surely finding their way again.

Just coming out of spring practice even with Laviano has to be seen as a great accomplishment for Rettig, given that Ash seems desperate to have Laviano win the job, yet he seems incapable of doing so. I bet Rettig comes back in the summer with a renewed sense of confidence.

 

[IL Lusciato]

You kind of hit on what really frustrates me about this board and the Laviano taint-lickers. If he earns the starting position under this regime, then congratulations, he earned it. But this idea that he is a great leader of men seems based solely on being annointed last year, and walking around like his crap don't stink. Rettig, on the other hand may not seem as confident leading the team because he was really held back. Like an abuse survivor slowly but surely finding their way again.

Just coming out of spring practice even with Laviano has to be seen as a great accomplishment for Rettig, given that Ash seems desperate to have Laviano win the job, yet he seems incapable of doing so. I bet Rettig comes back in the summer with a renewed sense of confidence.

Durrr taint licker durrr. So ash is now desperate too. The truth according to you, is that all these coaches hate Hayden rettig and just want him to lose. For both good reason? OK.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

Durrr taint licker durrr. So ash is now desperate too. The truth according to you, is that all these coaches hate Hayden rettig and just want him to lose. For both good reason? OK.

A harsh assessment indeed. However, it doesn't matter what happens in practice or in the film room. When it matters, Laviano is not the guy. He might very well do everything perfect, except perform well in games.

But that's the rub, the only thing that matters is the games. The Coaches can squawk about culture, accountability, practice habits, diet, etc. But none of that stuff matters, if you can't produce on the field.

Coaches can talk about consistency, and raising gentleman/scholars, but all of them would gladly settle for a bunch of Maniacs that win when it matters.

How many kids made the Ink Blotter in Florida when Tebow was QB. Do you really think Meyer cared one iota about the law. The only thing that mattered was and is winning. It's a zero sum game.

 

[Knight Shift]

You kind of hit on what really frustrates me about this board and the Laviano taint-lickers. If he earns the starting position under this regime, then congratulations, he earned it. But this idea that he is a great leader of men seems based solely on being annointed last year, and walking around like his crap don't stink. Rettig, on the other hand may not seem as confident leading the team because he was really held back. Like an abuse survivor slowly but surely finding their way again.

Just coming out of spring practice even with Laviano has to be seen as a great accomplishment for Rettig, given that Ash seems desperate to have Laviano win the job, yet he seems incapable of doing so. I bet Rettig comes back in the summer with a renewed sense of confidence.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

I just don't understand why it's so hard for people on here to accept that Laviano just might have been the best option last year and might be this coming year as well. You have no idea what was going on behind the scenes, in the locker room, on the practice field. Rettig has had more than enough opportunities. If he beats out Laviano this year than good for him and I would be happy for someone to finally pull away in the QB race. To say he hasn't been given a fair shot is bs. He hasn't shown to separate himself in any way. It's a hard pill to swallow, but none of our QBs are very good. Laviano just may be the best we have.

Who cares if he was a 4 star recruit. If he can't hit a receiver, command the offense, or make the right reads then he's not deserving of being a starting QB in any offense.

I guess you have more of a clue?

I'm not making any wild or weird claims. I've had the opportunity to see practices over the years and I can tell you from my wide range of experiences Laviano is not better. Rettig may not be the answer especially in this offense, but his natural talent gives you hope. Laviano continues to make the same mistakes from last year. Also, it is well known around these parts that Rettig was never given the same opportunity to prove his worth. The QB to lead this team may not be on the roster just yet, but for now Rettig is slightly better than Laviano. If you watch the for the little details in their play, then you would see Rettig did a little better than Laviano. Rettig did a better job in move around within the pocket on passing plays to buy time. Meanwhile, Laviano did what every coach hates and can't stand... role to one side of the field and throw across his body deep down field (really a jump ball throw) to a receiver. 9 times out of 10 that ball is either knocked down or INT. Laviano was lucky to get away with the play. It wasn't a smart play from an experienced QB. How about you look at thinking with a more detail eye.

 

[mikershoein]

Usually we agree on things but...Nuts though he is sometimes agressive in his responses seems to have a good pulse on things most times...

also, wouldn't say it's a lost season, if the team
Isn't competitive it could be bad for recruiting, better to create an offense that fits the current skills of the experienced players on the team while he young guys learn the system.

WRs might not be as good as Carroo but they have skills that can be of good use in the right offense, get the ball to Grant in the open field, throw jump balls to Agudosi in the end zone, Matthews looks pretty good for a walk on

Many people agree on one thing on this board, Reppin_jerk is a PSU tool that invades our board with multiple sign ons. If you don't think people don't like you, just count all of my "likes" on my profile, 60% are on non flattering comments against you (only you) and not PSU fans.

 

[brucelaw8]

You kind of hit on what really frustrates me about this board and the Laviano taint-lickers. If he earns the starting position under this regime, then congratulations, he earned it. But this idea that he is a great leader of men seems based solely on being annointed last year, and walking around like his crap don't stink. Rettig, on the other hand may not seem as confident leading the team because he was really held back. Like an abuse survivor slowly but surely finding their way again.

Just coming out of spring practice even with Laviano has to be seen as a great accomplishment for Rettig, given that Ash seems desperate to have Laviano win the job, yet he seems incapable of doing so. I bet Rettig comes back in the summer with a renewed sense of confidence.

Name Rettig the starter & he will take off IMO.

 

[rubaseball78]

Yes, I agree. Coaches would take an Emmitt Smith over Barry Sanders every single time. Consistency even if mediocre is more important than Spectacular Talent.

still though, Rettig's ability to challenge CB's deep, is enough to tip the scales in his favor over a more consistent Laviano.

Points come in the passing game. At some point, you need the threat of actually being able to score.

Consistent mediocrity is better than spectacular talent. Wow, what s concept. That certainly explains why the Bulls and the Lakers never won any championships.

 

[El Curioso Impertinente]

Consistent mediocrity is better than spectacular talent. Wow, what s concept. That certainly explains why the Bulls and the Lakers never won any championships.

As a life long Eagles fan, I watched Emmitt Smith win three titles in a row, based solely on his ability to get 3 yards consistently.

Meanwhile, we trounced Detroit routinely, even though Barry was Barry. His spectacular runs followed by losses in the backfield added up to Eagle Wins.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

As a life long Eagles fan, I watched Emmitt Smith win three titles in a row, based solely on his ability to get 3 yards consistently.

Meanwhile, we trounced Detroit routinely, even though Barry was Barry. His spectacular runs followed by losses in the backfield added up to Eagle Wins.

The Lions didn't lose because of Barry. There were a host of other issues.

The Cowboys had a lot more than Emmit going for them. I guess Irving, Sanders, and Aikman were just sidekicks?

You are only good as your weakest link. How many times did Laviano hold the offense back when McDaniels put the ball in his hand to make something happen... more than I care to count. Laviano wasn't the only issue with the team, but because he controlled the ball every snap it had a big effect on others.

 

[miketd1]

As a life long Eagles fan, I watched Emmitt Smith win three titles in a row, based solely on his ability to get 3 yards consistently.

Meanwhile, we trounced Detroit routinely, even though Barry was Barry. His spectacular runs followed by losses in the backfield added up to Eagle Wins.

I'm a lifelong Eagles fan too.

We lost to Dallas because Emmitt's 3 yard runs would set up the play-action bomb to Irving on the outside. Then, their top-5 defense would keep Cunningham/Peete/Detmer/Hoying/McNabb & co. at bay, which was relatively easy because outside of Ricky Watters & Brian Westbrook (&TO for one year), the offense lacked playmakers.

We would beat the Lions because Reid built his defense around small pass-rushers and "plus" DBs (Troy Vincent/Bobby Taylor, Dawk, etc.). This matched up well against the Lions who were running that 4WR Run-and-Shoot offense.

In contrast, our tiny defensive line would just get pushed around and worked over by the Cowboy line + Moose Johnston.

 

[rubaseball78]

As a life long Eagles fan, I watched Emmitt Smith win three titles in a row, based solely on his ability to get 3 yards consistently.

Meanwhile, we trounced Detroit routinely, even though Barry was Barry. His spectacular runs followed by losses in the backfield added up to Eagle Wins.

So the Lions lost because Sanders was spectacular and the Cowboys won because Smith averaged 3 yards per carry? Got it.

 

[sct1111]

I guess you have more of a clue?

I'm not making any wild or weird claims. I've had the opportunity to see practices over the years and I can tell you from my wide range of experiences Laviano is not better. Rettig may not be the answer especially in this offense, but his natural talent gives you hope. Laviano continues to make the same mistakes from last year. Also, it is well known around these parts that Rettig was never given the same opportunity to prove his worth. The QB to lead this team may not be on the roster just yet, but for now Rettig is slightly better than Laviano. If you watch the for the little details in their play, then you would see Rettig did a little better than Laviano. Rettig did a better job in move around within the pocket on passing plays to buy time. Meanwhile, Laviano did what every coach hates and can't stand... role to one side of the field and throw across his body deep down field (really a jump ball throw) to a receiver. 9 times out of 10 that ball is either knocked down or INT. Laviano was lucky to get away with the play. It wasn't a smart play from an experienced QB. How about you look at thinking with a more detail eye.

Never claimed I did.

The coaches, however, DO have that insight. They are behind the scenes. They see what goes on in practice, the locker room and on the field. They also have an infinite amount of greater football intellect than this entire board put together. So why exactly don't the people here actually listen to the coaches when they say that there really is not much of a separation at QB at this point? Why do you insist you know better than the coaching staff? Why did Rettig not instantly wow the new staff with his awesome talent that a lot of people here think he has? Well, maybe it's because he's actually not really that good. Laviano isn't good either. That's a sad reality, but it's a pill Rutgers fans are going to have to swallow this season unless somehow we get a superstar transfer or this kid Oden is the real deal straight out of HS.

Stop claiming you know more than the coaching staff. If you insist Laviano is no good and the coaching staff doesn't see Rettig as the clear favorite than maybe, just maybe Rettig isn't any good either.

 

[cubuffsdoug]

Never claimed I did.

The coaches, however, DO have that insight. They are behind the scenes. They see what goes on in practice, the locker room and on the field. They also have an infinite amount of greater football intellect than this entire board put together. So why exactly don't the people here actually listen to the coaches when they say that there really is not much of a separation at QB at this point? Why do you insist you know better than the coaching staff? Why did Rettig not instantly wow the new staff with his awesome talent that a lot of people here think he has? Well, maybe it's because he's actually not really that good. Laviano isn't good either. That's a sad reality, but it's a pill Rutgers fans are going to have to swallow this season unless somehow we get a superstar transfer or this kid Oden is the real deal straight out of HS.

Stop claiming you know more than the coaching staff. If you insist Laviano is no good and the coaching staff doesn't see Rettig as the clear favorite than maybe, just maybe Rettig isn't any good either.

First, I never said I claim to know more than the coach staff about the personnel of this team. It was just my OPINION based on my experience. Btw, if you listen to one of the interviews by Ash, he did say Rettig was much better than he thought. Laviano is the starter for now because of his experience and nothing more. The real battle begin begins in August. What's your claim to fame to knowing so much?

 

[160louis]

Never a dull moment with Laviano supporters. You guys are like the people who obsessively hate Donald Trump. The second you hear someone mention voting for him you immediately jump down their throats.