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Can we please take a hard look at Eran Ganot for HC?!

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He's done an amazing job at Hawaii in his first year so far... young and has that drive like our new football staff.

he's also a Jersey guy from Tenafly!

bring him back to the mainland
 
From April:

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Hawaii hires Saint Mary's assistant Eran Ganot as new coach
by Isaac Owusu on Apr 10
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Hawaii has found itself a new coach.

The Rainbow Warriors have hired Saint Mary's assistant Eran Ganot as their new bench boss, the university announced Thursday.

"This is a dream job and a dream destination of mine," Ganot said. "From the very first time I arrived, I knew this state and the University was a special place which I'm very fond of and I consider home. I'm excited to return to the islands and help direct the program through some very challenging times."

Hawaii, who finished the season with a 22-13 record, fired Gib Arnold in October. Assistant Benjy Taylor replaced him in an interim role.

Ganot had been with the Gaels since 2011, helping them finish with a 21-10 record last season. He spent five games as their acting coach and went 3-2.

The move to the Rainbow Warriors brings him back to the program where he worked under former coaches Riley Wallace and Bob Nash.
 
RocktheRac said:
At this point we cannot afford to take a risk like this.
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I don't think Coach K, Bob Hurley Sr, or Phil Jackson will be walking into the RAC anytime soon. I'm not sayin the Hawaii coach is ideal or anything. But if Rutgers get to that point, you might want to look at every possible way to get Rutgers back on track.
 
He was DBO just 8 yrs ago. I think we can shoot higher. I'd like to see more experience from a power conference..
 
We have risked big time with FHJ...wonder why he was never hired as a HC before RU and Jordan. How's that working out?
 
tychicus said:
He's done an amazing job at Hawaii in his first year so far... young and has that drive like our new football staff.

he's also a Jersey guy from Tenafly!

bring him back to the mainland
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Rather have one of the Hurley brothers at this moment
 
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Rhode Island finished 23-10 and No. 56 in KenPom and No. 9 adjusted defense in the country.

They've lost 5-6 games but lost one of the top-returners of the year.

1.) he's not coming to the dump that is Rutgers

2.) I think fans would give a right arm for 23-10

Last tournament appearance: 1991
Last winning season: 2004?
Facilities? Feh
Season ticket holders: less than 1K

Rutgers is not a job with a fertile recruiting area because it ranks behind every p5 school and kids don't like Rutgers. The parochial school parents are too good to send kids here.

So JUCO and international right? Well as it turns out Rutges recruiting budget is smaller than the women's teams. The best jucos can't get in and we don't have huge overseas travel budgets

This job has potential but you want an etablished p5 coach? Won't happen and I'll bet with anyone here! Lower expecations.

Hurley has more to prove but not to coach at Rutgers! He will stay another year at Rhode Island and make a tournament with healthy team. They signed a kid from Patrick School, someone Jordan likely had no idea existed.

Who did we consider when Rice was hired? That's probably the pool of coaches we look at.

Compared to Rutgers, GW and Rhode Island are high major. Rutgers can offer more but it's a step down from the stable programs they built.
 
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I have no problem aiming high.

But consider the DePaul coaching search. They were offering more than $2 million. They have the same "fertile" recruiting ground that is raided by richer schools. A brand new building on the way. And who did they hire?

Dave Leitao.
 
B1GNJHoops said:
Rhode Island finished 23-10 and No. 56 in KenPom and No. 9 adjusted defense in the country.

They've lost 5-6 games but lost one of the top-returners of the year.

1.) he's not coming to the dump that is Rutgers

2.) I think fans would give a right arm for 23-10

Last tournament appearance: 1991
Last winning season: 2004?
Facilities? Feh
Season ticket holders: less than 1K

Rutgers is not a job with a fertile recruiting area because it ranks behind every p5 school and kids don't like Rutgers. The parochial school parents are too good to send kids here.

So JUCO and international right? Well as it turns out Rutges recruiting budget is smaller than the women's teams. The best jucos can't get in and we don't have huge overseas travel budgets

This job has potential but you want an etablished p5 coach? Won't happen and I'll bet with anyone here! Lower expecations.

Hurley has more to prove but not to coach at Rutgers! He will stay another year at Rhode Island and make a tournament with healthy team. They signed a kid from Patrick School, someone Jordan likely had no idea existed.

Who did we consider when Rice was hired? That's probably the pool of coaches we look at.

Compared to Rutgers, GW and Rhode Island are high major. Rutgers can offer more but it's a step down from the stable programs they built.
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Fran Frascella reportedly interviewed and backed out of the process when it was clear we were not ready to invest in the program. That was when we hired Rice
 
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ruman said:
Fran Frascella reported interviewed and backed out of the process when it was clear we were not ready to invest in the program.
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That shows you what RU's facing when it goes after coaches that have major college experience.
All the please hire a Hurley will never happen, unless RU does what FF wanted.
Danny turned RU down and Bobby isn't going to leave ASU if he doesn't get more than what
Frascella and his brother wanted.

Eran Ganot might be in the running to replace Jordan if his price is low enough and he doesn't demand upgrades or a long term guaranteed deal.
 
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To say RU is not in a fertile recruiting area is simply a denial of reality. We are in perhaps the best area in the nation.

What we need to do is put a fair amount of money on the table along with a confirmed plan and schedule for upgrading facilities.

Easy enough to name a half dozen strong candidates whose names don't begin with Hurley who would be excellent choices.
 
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SkilletHead2 said:
To say RU is not in a fertile recruiting area is simply a denial of reality. We are in perhaps the best area in the nation.

What we need to do is put a fair amount of money on the table along with a confirmed plan and schedule for upgrading facilities.

Easy enough to name a half dozen strong candidates whose names don't begin with Hurley who would be excellent choices.
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We ar probably the 25th best option to these local kids. The ones who come here are obviously flawed. It's fertile ground for successful programs For Rutgers? Only if it starts to act like it wants to win. Even then it's hard to keep kids home.

Some Rutgers posters live in alternate universe where guys like Archie Miller would come because he coaches in A10. Or Ed Cooley because Big East is "mid major" Or Shaka when he was at VCU.

Funny thing happened when Rutgers became the worst program. Everyone passed us by!
 
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B1GNJHoops said:
We ar probably the 25th best option to these kids. It's fertile. For Rutgers? Only if it pays players
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Your efforts at semantic games are pretty weak. You said that Rutgers is not a job with a fertile recruiting ground. But it is. Full stop.

Saying that the top 25 schools recruiting the area are all paying players is a different discussion.
 
Could be. A lot of talk about such practices. Hope we never fall for it. Right now, I'd just like to see the kids playing better on the floor!
 
scarletKNIGHT07 said:
What is needed most? A practice facility? A brand name college coach? A mini prudential center in downtown NB? All three?
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At one time would have said get a name brand coach and recruiting would pick up.
I considered Eddie Jordan a name brand and it doesn't look like recruiting is getting better, though he has had some good pick-ups .
Facilities would help a energetic up and comer HC like Rice was supposed to be.
To get the facilities needed RU has to get the boosters interested in donating the funds to build them and that will take RU proving it can win and bring in top recruits.
Looks like a vicious circle to me and I don't know where to start when answering :
"What is needed most?"
All I can guess is all three and even then there might be something else needed:
Fans filling the seats now ( against the top B1G programs visiting the RAC) to show how good it can be all the time if RU invests in its M&WBB programs.
 
scarletKNIGHT07 said:
What is needed most? A practice facility? A brand name college coach? A mini prudential center in downtown NB? All three?
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how about first, we need to string together some wins against quality opponents and always win against teams that are D2 D3 level. this will bring some excitement to the RAC then we can think about getting talent here, both players and coach
 
tychicus said:
how about first, we need to string together some wins against quality opponents and always win against teams that are D2 D3 level. this will bring some excitement to the RAC then we can think about getting talent here, both players and coach
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You are trying to hard. Are you this coach whatever his name is? Really, really. Stop it.
 
MADHAT1 said:
At one time would have said get a name brand coach and recruiting would pick up.
I considered Eddie Jordan a name brand and it doesn't look like recruiting is getting better, though he has had some good pick-ups .
Facilities would help a energetic up and comer HC like Rice was supposed to be.
To get the facilities needed RU has to get the boosters interested in donating the funds to build them and that will take RU proving it can win and bring in top recruits.
Looks like a vicious circle to me and I don't know where to start when answering :
"What is needed most?"
All I can guess is all three and even then there might be something else needed:
Fans filling the seats now ( against the top B1G programs visiting the RAC) to show how good it can be all the time if RU invests in its M&WBB programs.
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Excellent analysis of the nightmare that has been Rutgers men basketball .Kicking the can down the road regarding facilities has been the biggest cause for futility on the court .Coaches with varying skill sets have tried and failed at Rutgers .
 
RUJMM78 said:
Excellent analysis of the nightmare that has been Rutgers men basketball .Kicking the can down the road regarding facilities has been the biggest cause for futility on the court .Coaches with varying skill sets have tried and failed at Rutgers .
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It is probably going to take a combination of practice facility already under construction, high profile actual college coach hired with guarentee that mini prudential center is built in downtown nb. We need to become the top regional choice for basketball by somehow leapfrogging established schools with established coaches and better facilities. Bball doesn't get benefit of being the only P5 school in proximity of NYC.
 
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MADHAT1 said:
At one time would have said get a name brand coach and recruiting would pick up.
I considered Eddie Jordan a name brand and it doesn't look like recruiting is getting better, though he has had some good pick-ups .
Facilities would help a energetic up and comer HC like Rice was supposed to be.
To get the facilities needed RU has to get the boosters interested in donating the funds to build them and that will take RU proving it can win and bring in top recruits.
Looks like a vicious circle to me and I don't know where to start when answering :
"What is needed most?"
All I can guess is all three and even then there might be something else needed:
Fans filling the seats now ( against the top B1G programs visiting the RAC) to show how good it can be all the time if RU invests in its M&WBB programs.
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He was a pro coach. He was not a brand name
 
ruman said:
He was a pro coach. He was not a brand name
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There are different types of brands and the pro brand could be used for college recruiting and helping to get boosters to donate more to the program.
Just because Jordan was a pro HC doesn't mean he wasn't a brand name when hired by RU.
If that's the case Phil Jackson ( no I'm not comparing Phil with Eddie) wouldn't be considered a brand name if RU hired him the way you look at what's considered a brand name when hiring a college HC.
 
Brand name coaches win. That's why Phil Jackson is a brand name and Eddie Jordan isn't. Losing in the NBA doesn't make you a brand name.
 
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Brand name coaches win. That's why Phil Jackson is a brand name and Eddie Jordan isn't. Losing in the NBA doesn't make you a brand name.
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Some brand names are not big winners, but have a name people reconize.
Like I said wasn't comparing Jordan to Jackson except as brand names because they were pro HCs
Jordan was a HC for 3 pro teams, his name is out there and that makes him a brand name
Also was the HC of the East in the 2007 NBA All Star game.

Just because he's not getting the job done as the RU HC, don't think he wasn't a brand name when RU hired him and was well respected by the RU sports community.
 
Eddie Jordan was only a brand name for Rutgers fans....most NBA coaches are not brand names in college and the ones who are win alot
 
bac2therac said:
Eddie Jordan was only a brand name for Rutgers fans....most NBA coaches are not brand names in college and the ones who are win alot
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To each their own.
Can't say he was a brand name to all college MBB fans, but in my own opinion he was.
Of the 4 people discussing if he was a brand name when hired I'm the only one who thinks that,
so odds are I'm wrong.
But won't admit it :p
 
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