Carino on the match-up
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There are too many unknowns to make a prediction to this game IMO, moreso than many of the recent matchups when RU had Rice or Pike as HC.
When RU has had normal coaching and respectable players, the games have been ultra competitive. The upside on both rosters is clearly there, it's just a matter of which bench is productive and avoids silly mistakes.
When RU has had normal coaching and respectable players, the games have been ultra competitive. The upside on both rosters is clearly there, it's just a matter of which bench is productive and avoids silly mistakes.
Seen SH a few times on TV-----seems like guys take the tact defensively that Powell isn't going to beat me and they load up on him.
That makes sense to me.
Pirates went through 7-8 minute dry spells in games that I saw where they couldn't hit anything and their defense and athleticism kept them in the games but they lost 2 of them.
That makes sense to me.
Pirates went through 7-8 minute dry spells in games that I saw where they couldn't hit anything and their defense and athleticism kept them in the games but they lost 2 of them.
I saw the end of the Kentucky game. They were all over Powell and he still beat them.
Carino suggested RU might put Thiam on Powell. Haven't seen any of your games this year. Is that feasible? Is Thiam going to be able to chase Powell around all game?
The atrocious Fordham loss has taken a lot of shine off this game.
Carino has been dying for this game since last year since RU won. Hopefully he is disappointed for another 12 months
I like Hawk, but not sure what he’s taking about either. Every game has unknowns. Not sure why this is different. I think it’s pretty obvious that SHU is the favorite. I expect a 10pt betting line. Doesn’t mean we can’t surprise like we did last year, but they are the favorite.
Nice analysis by Carino. Everyone who plays RU should make Geo work really hard. Hoping we play well and have a shot down the stretch.
What a weary canard that is. Ask any of informed fans on this site about Jerry.
I big x factor in this game is if Taurean can focus and be effective. He was last week, and they were able to win. As for Rutgers, a big x factor is if Thiam can start to help out more on offense, and if Shaq Carter can continue.
The match up is odd because their bigs do not have the weight ours do. I would like to see the game go inside. If you can draw fouls on Mamu, you can have a great chance at winning.
The match up is odd because their bigs do not have the weight ours do. I would like to see the game go inside. If you can draw fouls on Mamu, you can have a great chance at winning.
If Rutgers plays under control and up to their potential, a Rutgers victory is well within reach. I have been to every Seton Hall game this year and have noticed many voids where the offense sputters and cannot score.
I could see it. Thiam has a ton of length to bother smaller players. I expect to see Mathis get big minutes and be up in Powell's face as his primary focus all game
Grind it out - make the Hall burn seconds off the shot clock and shorten the each offensive possession.
Rebound, rebound and rebound.
Share the ball!
do the above - WIN!
Rebound, rebound and rebound.
Share the ball!
do the above - WIN!
Wait, two guys who are on the same team have developed a friendship? That's some investigative reporting right there. Call the Pulitzer people.
Meanwhile, here's a couple of random stats for you:
SHU is VERY efficient on baseline out of bounds (BLOB) plays. They score 54.3% of the time and are ranked in the 97th percentile in the nation with a 1.229 points per possession on a BLOB.
When SHU is in zone defense they are holding teams to 34 percent FG shooting and just .818 points per possession. Meanwhile Rutgers has struggled against zone defense and is only scoring .839 points per possession vs. zone.
No Russ...Powell is seton hall, Baker is RUTGERS.
Oh, okay. I stand corrected. Thanks. :flush:
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Thiam gets shook very easily on step backs, he often stumbles on step backs. Myles would eat his lunch
Very in depth Podcast on the game and both teams
https://www.moresportsnow.com/the-podcast-jerry-carino-on-the-rutgers-seton-hall-match-up/
https://www.moresportsnow.com/the-podcast-jerry-carino-on-the-rutgers-seton-hall-match-up/
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Mathissss. I bet Pike and company have been drilling into Mathis all week that his role is to stop Powell and accept the challenge. This is Mathis coming out party as a true defensive menice and is the difference in the game
I like the match up. We've struggled with disciplined offenses. Theirs is not one. We will see.
When referring to unknowns, right now both teams have a lot of them. They have seen flashes of some players beyond Powell and Baker because guards typically get the bulk of the shots of handle the ball the most.
If Baker and Powell get hurried into bad shots or feel the need to carry the workload, what happens when options 1 and 2 are focal points??
If Powell forces up shots, can his teammates provide the support??
Will Eugene continue to feel like he has to score each time he touches it, or will he get back to moving the ball, and letting the flow of the game allow the ball to get back to him??
What happens if McKnight and Nelson are assigned to shut down Baker and their offense suffers because of it??
Who draws the assignment of chasing Peter Kisa?? Is it Powell, thinking he can coast on defense...?? Will Kiss take the ball into traffic and draw contact to get Powell into foul trouble?? Same with Mathis, if he has Powell on him....can he attack the basket and get fouled??....Powell guarding Baker won't make much sense, he needs to save his energy for running and trying to get loose to score.
Can RU own both backboards or will the refs call a lot of ticky tack fouls??
There's 3 stages to any rebuild and the hardest one is winning when favored. Not a 15 to 20 point mismatch when you're clearly better, but games when the opponent is similar in size and quickness.
Winning when favored or expectations rise is difficult for young teams. Seton Hall has had 2 opportunities and lost both this year vs St. Louis and again vs Louisville. One can argue that St. Louis is a favorite to win the Atlantic 10 and Louisville is not Louisville this year because of all the turmoil this past offseason and Chris Mack replacing Pitino.
But in both games, SHU didn't play well and both programs sent waves of length and defenders at Powell. In the Kentucky game, Powell made tough shots but its something to night in and night out, be the focal point of teams and score at will anyway.
SHU is a solid favorite yet again...if they win, it will be expected but playing Kentucky when maybe an upset isn't unexpected is fine.
The real test for RU occurs when they start playing consistently close games as an underdog...breaking through every other 3 to 4 games and springing upsets, then raises expectations that they're getting better....how does RU in the next 40 to 50 games this year and next year, play well when you're suddenly perceived to be getting better??....
There's a lot of built in storylines that can be explained away by the winner and loser in Saturday's matchup and all of them would be factually correct.
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Can mathis keep his hands off powell though? Hes too handsy too much
Hopefully the refs let them play! That would be the concern but I do think that is the best strategy. Pike will challenge him to be the difference in the game with his defense on Powell. I think it will be THE difference in the game.
At a minimum it would keep Baker out of foul trouble and let him save energy and focus on offense. Kiss has gotten better at D over the season but don't want that matchup. Issa is interesting with all that length but I like Mathis best here and going forward guarding the other teams best guard
