Carino Story- We R Young?
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totally agree with you that we win this game at home. That’s what’s so disappointing. I was hoping we would be at the point where we could beat teams with less talent (my opinion) on the road. And, we shouldn’t look like deer in the headlights against a weak team on the road in our 8th game of the season. That’s what opening with half a dozen Niagaras gets you.
This is all well and good especially number 2. With that said, it's Pike's fault that he's not running set plays and the kids are weaving or passing the ball out on the perimeter as the clock winds down forcing a 3 point shot that did not go in.
Pike, start running an offense through certain guys and include some high and low screens and guess what, we will actually have some open looks and good shots taken from inside the arc. I want to see more of that and less street ball.
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I think the question isn't why RU lost at Pittsburgh, it's also why Florida State also lost at Pittsburgh....
Florida state is better than RU at every position on the court.
Seton Hall lost at the RAC 2 years ago, why did Ohio State lose at the RAC last year ??
Newsflash...teams are significantly better at home than the road.
There were way better RU teams under Waters that were anemic on the road but potentially death for visiting teams hitting the RAC.
I don't know why fans are treating Pittsburgh as if they're not capable of playing a good game at home.
Florida state is better than RU at every position on the court.
Seton Hall lost at the RAC 2 years ago, why did Ohio State lose at the RAC last year ??
Newsflash...teams are significantly better at home than the road.
There were way better RU teams under Waters that were anemic on the road but potentially death for visiting teams hitting the RAC.
I don't know why fans are treating Pittsburgh as if they're not capable of playing a good game at home.
I think there is always a contingent of fans who get frustrated and angry after a loss and want to have someone to focus the anger on. Either its going to be a player (Geo is sooo over-rated) or the coach (pike can't recruit or develop anyone).
And when faced with other possibilities that don't fit with the need to blame someone (like the idea that players weren't focused heading into the game), these fans push back and intensify the blaming.
Its just natural and will repeat itself after every loss.
And when faced with other possibilities that don't fit with the need to blame someone (like the idea that players weren't focused heading into the game), these fans push back and intensify the blaming.
Its just natural and will repeat itself after every loss.
Not sure what the argument is; Pitt looks to be a bit better than us but we obviously still win that game a fair portion of the time. It was our second worst effort of the year.
This is true but I also think some of the anger is over just how bad we looked in the first half.
I think some of the frustration is the soft and silly approach we had on offense in that game. Rutgers imo is a better team than what they showed. Give Pitt credit they punched us in the mouth and we didn’t react well. You need to be mature and focused i that situation and we were neither. There will be better nights ahead as much as I bitched and moaned like everyone that night.
I think you completely missed what Pike was saying. He wasn't complaining that the kids spend too much time on social media. He was saying that the kids were believing the hype they were seeing about themselves on social media, and they needed to better understand their limitations.
It's not that we lost on the road to Pitt. It's that we did so because many of the same flaws that were evident in game 1 against Bryant were still present. And when you start to get a quarter of the way into the season the likelihood that the team is just more flawed than many expected goes up.
Or failures of preparation, execution, game plan, etc. Or a combination of factors. Or just that inexperienced players are inconsistent in production.
We didn't play well, and we lost. As I said, we stunk up the place. Hopefully that doesn't become a trend. I doubt at the end of the season we are a .174 team from range that averages 20 turnovers, but maybe we are.
Four of PItt's top minutes guys in the game were no more than sophomores. Three of their top four scorers were no more than sophomores. Their top assists guy was a sophomore. Two sophomores topped Pitt in steals that night. Too bad they were experienced and we weren't.
the funny thing is I think people on the board are in the “social media” mentality. People were thinking potential NCAA tournement even after gene left. The entire Rutgers fan base needed a reality check(including myself). Our goal should be to finish6-9 in league play. Get to 2nd game of big ten tourney.Somehow get to NIT next year.
Pikiell took over what Schiano is taking over now. No sane person would expect Schiano to turn things around in year 4. We have seen glimmers of hope and this team get some big wins but in reality we are still one big recruit and two years away from the NCAA tournament. Rutgers hasn’t been to NCAA tournement in what feels like 100 years and we got caught up in the hype that pikiell would do it in year 4 after the worst 3 years in recent memory. The best we can do is support this team and players to help them get better.
once this team gets there we will all look back and cherish the time we saw these young guys grow into elite players!
Pikiell took over what Schiano is taking over now. No sane person would expect Schiano to turn things around in year 4. We have seen glimmers of hope and this team get some big wins but in reality we are still one big recruit and two years away from the NCAA tournament. Rutgers hasn’t been to NCAA tournement in what feels like 100 years and we got caught up in the hype that pikiell would do it in year 4 after the worst 3 years in recent memory. The best we can do is support this team and players to help them get better.
once this team gets there we will all look back and cherish the time we saw these young guys grow into elite players!
Pitt was 3-15 in conference last year. I’m a patient person, but it looks like Pitt is going to make a bigger improvement in one year than we did in three.
My biggest problem right now is HS recruiting. It’s been dead since the Mulcahy pick up. Yes, I noticed we signed three guys. But we have missed out on every top tier guy since Mulcahy. We’re still in it for Cliff O. Unfortunately the current 2020 class is just not going to cut it if me miss on Cliff O.
My biggest problem right now is HS recruiting. It’s been dead since the Mulcahy pick up. Yes, I noticed we signed three guys. But we have missed out on every top tier guy since Mulcahy. We’re still in it for Cliff O. Unfortunately the current 2020 class is just not going to cut it if me miss on Cliff O.
At the end of the day he is the coach. His observations are spot on but if his in game coaching, discipline, player utilization, and direction doesn't match his understanding of the situation...then either thats on him or his players don't listen and that's on him.
He needs to get his message executed on the court by the players he has on the court.
He let them take 23 (?) Threes ... While his bigs were producing. He didn't tell his 3rd year captain to take it to the rim
He needs to get his message executed on the court by the players he has on the court.
He let them take 23 (?) Threes ... While his bigs were producing. He didn't tell his 3rd year captain to take it to the rim
The We Are Young Excuse is OLD and TIRED! Young teams win in NCAA. Just need to own poor coaching and poor execution. Really not that young..
- Leader and Supposed Best Player Baker is a Junior and three year starter
- All sophomores played starter minutes last year and have now played 40 games in college.
- Myles Johnson is a Red Shirt Soph so a third year player
- Jacob Young is a red shirt Junior so a Fourth Year player
Next Wednesday we find out whether we re better than Wisconsin. Game we should win and need to win.
Carter is also on his last year of eligibility, and Doucoure is in his third year here. Kiss is in his fourth year in college . . .
We R young
(Heartache to heartache)
Heartache to heartache
(We stand)
We stand
No promises
(No demands)
No demands
(Love is a battlefield)
Love is a battlefield
That was a great song back in the day.
(Heartache to heartache)
Heartache to heartache
(We stand)
We stand
No promises
(No demands)
No demands
(Love is a battlefield)
Love is a battlefield
That was a great song back in the day.
While there were a good number of students at the game, I did not think the environment seemed that hostile for the Pitt game. I also did not think they played that well just better than us. We played lousy and did not compete with the level of intensity that is going to be necessary to win conference games.
If we miss anything from EO it is his grit and determination. I don't see a lot of that on this year's team believe that is an intangible that can impact the result in close games.
We need to play to our strengths. For example, if RH is better at mid range jumpers than 3's then that is the shot he should be taking most of the time regardless of what NBA analytics say.
Also, were just are not the most athletic team, we lack lateral foot speed and the ability to defend for extended periods of time. How do we compensate for that? If we want to mix in some zone then learn to play it competently. Conditioning should not be an issue given our depth but we sometimes look gassed regardless.
He needs to settle on a rotation of about 8 maybe 9 and figure out whether Shaq or Mamadou are in or out of that rotation. By default one almost has to be in there. Myles is looking like our most irreplaceable piece right now. I know Pike would say match ups dictate how time the other bigs play, but one needs to develop into a reliable back up.
The goal for Sunday should be to compete and make MSU earn the victory.
If we miss anything from EO it is his grit and determination. I don't see a lot of that on this year's team believe that is an intangible that can impact the result in close games.
We need to play to our strengths. For example, if RH is better at mid range jumpers than 3's then that is the shot he should be taking most of the time regardless of what NBA analytics say.
Also, were just are not the most athletic team, we lack lateral foot speed and the ability to defend for extended periods of time. How do we compensate for that? If we want to mix in some zone then learn to play it competently. Conditioning should not be an issue given our depth but we sometimes look gassed regardless.
He needs to settle on a rotation of about 8 maybe 9 and figure out whether Shaq or Mamadou are in or out of that rotation. By default one almost has to be in there. Myles is looking like our most irreplaceable piece right now. I know Pike would say match ups dictate how time the other bigs play, but one needs to develop into a reliable back up.
The goal for Sunday should be to compete and make MSU earn the victory.
To be fair young teams (both are young) play much better at home than away in general. I think we all feel the Pitt game was a sub par effort and we won’t compete in league if we consistently play like that for sure.
For some reason I never pictured you as a Pat Benatar fan. Did you wear a head band in high school?:WideSmile:
Agree. The game to game “we’re great, we suck” roller coaster is absurd. It actually occurs WITHIN game which is why I stopped following the in-game threads (plus it distracts focus on the game, at least for me).
I get what some of you are saying with the home team mentality but we just looked awful that night. We still have a chance to turn it around. I am also the firm believer in making the schedule more difficult by playing better teams in the OOC portion of our schedule.
Not in HS. Rolled up red bandana in my early 20s in the club tho.
We can't afford to be innocent. Stand up and face the enemy. Its a do or die situation. We will be INVINCIBLE!
So when will Pikiell grow a pair and stop scheduling his OOC from Cupcake City - Year 8 or Year 9? No wonder they stain their shorts as soon as they leave the RAC against a team with a pulse.
As far as the youth, well there’s youth and there’s talented youth. When the last 3 recruiting classes are 10th, 10th and 13th in the B1G and you whiff on transfers, Year 4 is shaping up as a struggle to get to .500, even with that OOC.
As far as the youth, well there’s youth and there’s talented youth. When the last 3 recruiting classes are 10th, 10th and 13th in the B1G and you whiff on transfers, Year 4 is shaping up as a struggle to get to .500, even with that OOC.
Unfortunately its never a linear path. Just because its game 8 doesn't mean were always going to play better than game 7, or worse than game 9.
There will be good interspersed with bad. All year long.
The issue we've been bad against bad teams, and bad against teams with a pulse. But while we've been good against bad teams, we haven't been good against teams with a pulse.
It's only a two-game sample (Bona and Pitt) but those two also aren't good teams, merely decent. Tonight will be illuminating.
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