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Caroo charges dropped

It also depends on what happened and what Carroo did or didn't do.

Just because charges were dropped doesn't mean he didn't do something wrong.
You're wrong and certainly appear biased in analyzing the alleged incident...
 
Anger Management is standard procedure for anyone ACCUSED of DV in NJ, this is not a finding of any guilt, just part of the DV process, even for people found not guilty
We should take bets on how many people will completely fail to understand this fact.
 
I could imagine the Star Liar headline: "Carroo charges conveniently dropped".
It's actually worse than that. They have an article up already that spends more time talking about the accusations against him then the fact that charges were dropped. And they embedded a video that is a 70 second pure attack piece on the RU FB program (details the arrests, Floods suspension and even Carroo's arrest w/out the fact that the charges were dropped).
 
Get involved in a fight directly outside the football facility after a game. That does not represent RU well. You have a scholarship here, you need discretion.

Carroo's lawyers have stated that he did nothing other than remove his current girlfriend from a fight already underway that SHE was INVOLVED in. IF (and with the charges dropped, I'm inclined to believe the following is true) taking his girlfriend away from the fracas was the extent of his involvement in the altercation after the WSU game, then he actually deserves credit for saving a loved one from further physical harm. The only thing that Carroo even arguably did wrong in that case was leave the confines of the Hale Center against teammates' advice.

The two game suspension already served is more than enough punishment for such an indiscretion, roughly commensurate with the half-game received for his curfew violation.
 
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The two game suspension already served is more than enough punishment for such an indiscretion, roughly commensurate with the half-game received for his curfew violation.
Not to mention being commensurate with Flood's 3 game suspension for having subverted the entire world's academic integrity through the fiendishly criminal act of speaking directly to a professor. My two kids currently at RU tell me they could sense the greatly diminished quality of their education on that very day Flood visited the adjunct professor.


Or am I being too cynical? :D
 
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He did do something wrong, but I am OK with the two games suspending being enough if he is totally cleared.

Good for him but this will likely not change much to end the other on and off the field problems we have.
How can you say this? Charges are dropped. The system is rigged against men and I am glad he is free. The anger management bs is so the prosecutor has something to hand his hat on.
 
Get involved in a fight directly outside the football facility after a game. That does not represent RU well. You have a scholarship here, you need discretion.
This is such a moronic argument. If a family member of yours was in a fight and you could but didn't try to break it up I would hope that afterwards said family member would slash your tires.
 
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Who got to play based on broken rules?
Barnwell didn't play because our professors have integrity, but if you think flood tried to get him grade changed because "he cares about his players" then you're super naive
 
He was dumb enough to leave the building but now being cleared he should be starting Saturday
 
He did do something wrong, but I am OK with the two games suspending being enough if he is totally cleared.

Good for him but this will likely not change much to end the other on and off the field problems we have.
Wow, the victim agreeing to drop the TRO, the court dropping the charges, but he is still guilty for doing something wrong. I am glad that never in your life did you ever have to make a split second decision to help a girfriend, mother, sister, etc. that was in a fight. And had you done that, you would have thought you did something wrong? I'm sure.

You might want to consider giving him a break, and let it go now that its over.
 
I'm only afraid Rutgers will find a way to f--k this up, and not reinstate him. Any other p5 school in the nation, he would be practicing tomorrow. Please Rutgers, do the right thing!!!
 
He was dumb enough to leave the building but now being cleared he should be starting Saturday

See post of NotinRhouse similar comments, I think you two need to give him a break. Its easy to judge after the fact, but by you making these comments, you are essentially saying that you would never go to the aid of your mother, sister, Girl friend who was in a fight because its dumb. I don't think so. Let it go guys.
 
See post of NotinRhouse similar comments, I think you two need to give him a break. Its easy to judge after the fact, but by you making these comments, you are essentially saying that you would never go to the aid of your mother, sister, Girl friend who was in a fight because its dumb. I don't think so. Let it go guys.
Read my comment again. He made a bad decision. Paid for it by being suspended, should be back on the field Saturday. What of those facts do you disagree?
 
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If that kid isn't playing, the fan base should stay home. We know they have no balls. This would be extraordinary for even them.

Carroo would have to consider suing the institution at that point.
 
If that kid isn't playing, the fan base should stay home. We know they have no balls. This would be extraordinary for even them.

Carroo would have to consider suing the institution at that point.
Rettig should sue too.
 
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Would the defendant(s) include Flood, Wilson, McDaniels or all three?
And would slamming them to the concrete be an acceptable alternative to financial compensation?
I have no idea why you quoted my post than followed with that nonsense
 
I am troubled that anyone would find fault with a person coming to the aide of loved ones (girlfriend and mother?) that are in a fight. While I can understand being critical of one's behavior while "in the fight" and certainly pile driving anyone, much less a young petite female would be criminal, it is rather obvious that did not happen.

I guess that if NotInRHouse and Whitebus were in Leonte's shoes they would have remained inside the Hale Center and discussed their favorite method of shaving their bikini lines.

He did do something wrong, but I am OK with the two games suspending being enough if he is totally cleared.

Good for him but this will likely not change much to end the other on and off the field problems we have.
 
I am troubled that anyone would find fault with a person coming to the aide of loved ones (girlfriend and mother?) that are in a fight. While I can understand being critical of one's behavior while "in the fight" and certainly pile driving anyone, much less a young petite female would be criminal, it is rather obvious that did not happen.

I guess that if NotInRHouse and Whitebus were in Leonte's shoes they would have remained inside the Hale Center and discussed their favorite method of shaving their bikini lines.
If I was in Carroo shoes I might have done the same. I'd be as wrong as he was. Stop making excuses. Be happy he is cleared and move on
 
Barnwell didn't play because our professors have integrity, but if you think flood tried to get him grade changed because "he cares about his players" then you're super naive

Woz, fixed your original statement. Don't like the insinuation the university condones rule breaking and puts players on the field that should not be there. It is not true. It was Flood alone, one occurrence, one player.

Because Flood has proven recently he is unwilling to break rules attempting to get a player to play... Oh wait
 
I have no idea why you quoted my post than followed with that nonsense
I believe he was saying that Rettig should sue all three of them or just slam them to the ground instead..he was building off your comment.
 
I believe he was saying that Rettig should sue all three of them or just slam them to the ground instead..he was building off your comment.
Not my intent at all. Still don't get the post. Mine was full of sarcasm but the reply doesn't match at all
 
Barnwell didn't play because our professors have integrity, but if you think flood tried to get him grade changed because "he cares about his players" then you're super naive
You're super naive if you don't believe that it's true. Flood let a couple of troubled ex players around the program and even gave them small jobs to help them out. It did not benefit him 1 bit.

Instead of cutting bait with these guys, he showed some compassion, and tried to help steer them in the right direction.If anything it was a distraction to he and the program, but he was trying to help them out. He's guilty of overestimating his ability to help or guide these young men in the right direction. It took 1 or 2 dominant personalities like TJ Johnson to lead others astray with him.

He's in some ways a father figure to a lot of these guys. Hopefully this doesn't jade him to the point of giving up on kids too soon and cutting bait at first signs of problems. Hopefully he learns better when or when not to cut a kid lose.
 
Read my comment again. He made a bad decision. Paid for it by being suspended, should be back on the field Saturday. What of those facts do you disagree?
I think you are being to harsh on his decision. It doesn't look good in retrospect, but you, me and just about everybody else here would have done the same thing if we heard our wife, girlfriend, mother was in a fight.
 
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Very happy to see the charges dropped. I would be amazed if Carroo weren't reinstated tomorrow and on the field Saturday.
 
I have no idea why you quoted my post than followed with that nonsense

I was being facetious, given the coaches' staggering inability to even involve Rettig in games and the ridiculousness of what Carroo was initially accused of doing. Carry on.
 
If this is true, just more NJ weirdness.
You mean the weird law that he has to take the anger mgmt class? Or the fact that so many people will fail to read that fact and will instead take the fact that he has to and use it as a way to say Carroo must have been guilty in some way?

The first is a weird NJ thing, although I suspect it's true of many states. The second is just how it is all over the world. People don't seem to want to ever see facts that interfere with their preconceptions.
 
How come Shane hasn't been charged? LC's own attorney told the media that Shane would testify he did it.
 
How come Shane hasn't been charged? LC's own attorney told the media that Shane would testify he did it.
My guess is that, in the calm and considered aftermath of the event, nobody wants to escalate the legal situation in the way it was done during the event when everybody's blood pressure was way up and they couldn't think straight.

The alleged victim probably realized she got it wrong and probably wasn't without blame for the situation herself and backed way off.
 
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My guess is that, in the calm and considered aftermath of the event, nobody wants to escalate the legal situation in the way it was done during the event when everybody's blood pressure was way up and they couldn't think straight.

The alleged victim probably realized she got it wrong and probably wasn't without blame for the situation herself and backed way off.

I wonder if there'll be a civil suit?

The cynic in me says that'll depend on where Carroo falls in the NFL draft ($$$$). The optimist in me agrees with you.

Unlike many here, through all this I never gave an opinion on guilt or innocence. I felt we should all let the system of justice do it's job. Now that it appears to be over I think RU had to suspend LC for the last 2 games. Even if they knew somehow that he didn't do what he was accused of, the sh!tshow the past 2 months made them come down hard on LC. Sucks for him but nothing happens in a vacuum. In a way, he was paying for the actions on Johnson, Boggs, Barnwell, etc.
 
I wonder if there'll be a civil suit?

The cynic in me says that'll depend on where Carroo falls in the NFL draft ($$$$). The optimist in me agrees with you.

Unlike many here, through all this I never gave an opinion on guilt or innocence. I felt we should all let the system of justice do it's job. Now that it appears to be over I think RU had to suspend LC for the last 2 games. Even if they knew somehow that he didn't do what he was accused of, the sh!tshow the past 2 months made them come down hard on LC. Sucks for him but nothing happens in a vacuum. In a way, he was paying for the actions on Johnson, Boggs, Barnwell, etc.
I don't think there will be a civil suit. As part of the dismissal agreement between the opposing attorneys, Carroo's attorney's agreed to not challenge the probable cause for the arrest. I *think* that that's to prevent him from suing her.

Although I may have misunderstood and perhaps the agreement was between the prosecutor and Carroo's attorneys. In which case maybe it's to prevent him from suing the state or country or whomever.

In any event, I agree that things might have gone differently had the other arrests and the Flood suspension not happened. Hard to say.
 
If my mom decided to assault an 18 year old outside my office, she would be on her own. Not that she would ever. Because it would be ridiculous.

He was involved by leaving the building when told not to. He did his time, it's over.

And it has nothing to do with anti-men lol...look up assault it's from the British common law
 
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