I doubt we will go to the CBI but there might be a slight chance. I know a few teams have gone to the CBI with a losing record. We are 14-17 and much improved over last year and are in a tough league and have lost several games this year in the last few minutes. If we should win a game in the BIG Tournament and finish 15-18 might we be considered? I think probably not but I wish we would be. In 2012 Pitt finished 16-16 and went to the CBI winning 5 of 6 to finish at 21-17. This would get us more games and more experience. Would fans attend? I know my son and I would definitely be there. 16 teams get selected for this and the two teams that win 3 games go into the Finals which are two out of three to be the champion. The teams would be teams rated about where we are. I can dream can't I?
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I don't think that will be determined until tomorrow. We are #14 and will play #11. As far as I can tell Indiana and Ohio State both finished at 7-11, Nebraska and Penn State are both 6-11. I believe they both play tomorrow (Nebraska plays Michigan) and Penn State plays at Iowa. We should play either Indiana, Ohio State, Nebraska or Penn State depending on tomorrow's games plus tie breakers as several teams could finish with 7 wins or if Nebraska and Penn state both lose than only Ohio State & Indiana would finish with 7 wins and one of them would get the #10 seed and one the #11. If Nebraska or Penn State win or both of them do than 3 or 4 teams would have 7 wins. It will be interesting to see who we get to play.
If RU wins a game in the B10 tourney and finishes 15-18, I would take a shot at going to the CBI, I know it costs money, better for RU to go on the road and play. If they finish 14-18 I would say no way.
We play either OSU or Indiana. OSU if Mich beats Neb, Indiana if Neb wins. I'd much rather play OSU, so go blue [sick]
CBI is a joke and should not exist. The quintessential pay to play tournament. Can't see RU footing the bill for that one.
Just try to find a bracket for the CBI tournament.
Just try to find a bracket for the CBI tournament.
for this particular team I think it would be an outstanding opportunity. Pitt had no problem playing in it and payed off for them the following year
I would like to see it. More games is more experience. Those of us that love RU B-Ball would attend.
I think season is best to end. Off-season is important and staff needs to recruit.
I just checked last year's CBI teams. Many were ranked about where we are now. We are at #131 in Kenpom and I think we will be at #120 in Segarin tomorrow.
Last year here are some rankings in Segarin of teams that participated in the 2016 CBI.
122 Nevada
125 Albany
128 Pepperdine
129 Siena
131 Morehead
137 Ohio
153 Duquesne
154 Montana
157 Vermont
There were 16 teams and 6 of the 16 had losing records. We could fit in very well. I doubt a few more games will affect our recruiting. Our coaches are in constant connection with those we are recruiting.
Last year here are some rankings in Segarin of teams that participated in the 2016 CBI.
122 Nevada
125 Albany
128 Pepperdine
129 Siena
131 Morehead
137 Ohio
153 Duquesne
154 Montana
157 Vermont
There were 16 teams and 6 of the 16 had losing records. We could fit in very well. I doubt a few more games will affect our recruiting. Our coaches are in constant connection with those we are recruiting.
I agree with Bac. Go to the CBI but get them to agree to let us play all our games on the road. Gives us more experience playing in hostile environments. Games wouldn't draw at the RAC, but mid or low majors hosting a Big Ten school would draw.
Here are some teams that have participated in the CBI since 2010.
Pittsburgh
Oregon
Oregon State
Creighton
Rhode Island
Washington State
Purdue in 2013 with a 15-17 record
Texas in 2013 with a 16-17 record
Colorado State
Colorado
Penn State in 2014 with a 15-17 record
I think many teams have used the tournament for more experience. I don't care where we would play but I think it would be a good idea and perhaps we could play one or two at home.
Pittsburgh
Oregon
Oregon State
Creighton
Rhode Island
Washington State
Purdue in 2013 with a 15-17 record
Texas in 2013 with a 16-17 record
Colorado State
Colorado
Penn State in 2014 with a 15-17 record
I think many teams have used the tournament for more experience. I don't care where we would play but I think it would be a good idea and perhaps we could play one or two at home.
Might get a shot. Guy who runs the CBI is a professor at Rutgers in the sports management department
1. Money doesn't grow on trees
2. Off season is very important to this team
3. They haven't earned a post season berth
4. Staff needs to concentrate on the roster for next year and beyond
2. Off season is very important to this team
3. They haven't earned a post season berth
4. Staff needs to concentrate on the roster for next year and beyond
I disagree.
60K?
Peanuts
Off season?
Are they going to improve more by just practicing? Or practicing, playing in games, and THEN practicing when allowed to in the off season?
Who cares?
It's not a reward.
It's about getting better.
And proving to recruits we ARE getting better.
Staff can't do both?
What are they going to do?
Sit in someone's front yard?
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GRF, I also disagree. Many other P5 teams have done this in the past to improve for the following year and it has worked in many cases. Our coaches have been in contact with many potential recruits for a long time. They have set up a good relationship with many. I doubt very much if that will change if we play a few extra games over a couple of weeks. Perhaps we could get important minutes for Thiam, Omoruyi, Sa, Doorson, Diallo etc. We might even get to a .500 record which might be important to some people as well as recruits. Gosh, we don't have another game until next November which is 8 months from now. I vote for participating if we have the chance. Why not ask the players how they would feel about it.
Most haven't played in CBI
1000 fans would show up at these games.
The more you win the more you pay I believe.
1000 fans would show up at these games.
The more you win the more you pay I believe.
If you look at last years bracket there were no Schools from the P5 schools (Oregon state was the last to participate in 2014). The closest was Duquesne and were the 13th seed with a .500 record. It is also known as the mid-major tournament. Plus I think all teams had a .500 record minimum.
Don't rush the progress. I think next year we will be in a pos-season tournament.
This is the title and subtitle they used last year on SBNation.
CBI 2016: Bracket, schedule and scores
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The College Basketball Invitational bracket is packed with mid-major talent.
by Christian D'Andrea@TrainIsland Apr 1, 2016, 11:41pm EDT
Don't rush the progress. I think next year we will be in a pos-season tournament.
This is the title and subtitle they used last year on SBNation.
CBI 2016: Bracket, schedule and scores
1
The College Basketball Invitational bracket is packed with mid-major talent.
by Christian D'Andrea@TrainIsland Apr 1, 2016, 11:41pm EDT
$60G,how many fans would have to attend the game at the RAC to break even at the very least? I'd love to see it, personally.
play on the road....why does it have to be at the RAC, would rather have the team get experience in smaller hostile gyms
not my pig, not my farm. But I'd have no issues with them going. I would certainly make a game if they played at the RAC. Seeing play against a different team is fun for me. Would be interesting to see how they took what they learned in the league and used it out of conference now.
How much Net $ do we make from a game at the RAC. Even with 2k fans that ought to be enough to pay for the thing? (oops. I see Ready already made the point :) )
How much Net $ do we make from a game at the RAC. Even with 2k fans that ought to be enough to pay for the thing? (oops. I see Ready already made the point :) )
Face facts. We are the last place team in a 14 team conference. No tournament is inviting the last place team in any conference. If you want to play in this tournament we would have to win 2 games in the Big 10 tournament to be considered.
That being said if we are asked we should go and I don't care if we are playing Texas-Arlington. More games is always good. For those who say we need the practice time think back to when you played. A player would always choose to play a game over practice.
As for attendance I don't care where the games are played and if at the RAC let everyone in for free if you'd like.
Money shouldn't hold you back here as the cost isn't that much. How much does it cost to put up the football team in a hotel the night before a home game?? This is probably the most unnecessary expense in all of college athletics IMHO.
That being said if we are asked we should go and I don't care if we are playing Texas-Arlington. More games is always good. For those who say we need the practice time think back to when you played. A player would always choose to play a game over practice.
As for attendance I don't care where the games are played and if at the RAC let everyone in for free if you'd like.
Money shouldn't hold you back here as the cost isn't that much. How much does it cost to put up the football team in a hotel the night before a home game?? This is probably the most unnecessary expense in all of college athletics IMHO.
thats true...no one questions some of the expenses paid for in football so why should this be questioned
The problem is the short lead time to buy tickets for an NIT or other post season game at the RAC. Season ticket holders have to go online or line up at the box office to get their tix, just like the general public. That's why it's tough to sell a lot of tix for a game a few days away, even though the game is played at home.
If we win Wednesday and get to Thursday night, I'd hesitate to say that I would pass on it.
BUT if you get to NW on Thursday night and are in the game again and somehow make NW sweat for 40 minutes and steal a W, there would be no argument against playing the CBI.
If you go 2-1 in Washington DC, that would be 2 of the most impressive W's of the season on paper (two better teams away from home)....it would be very difficult to not imagine that fans/students would not watch a CBI game on TV or at the RAC....the enormous press/coverage after two of those types of upsets, would have everyone buzzing....
In either case, Wednesday W, would mean more than anything....get to play the darling NW on a neutral site and you'll have more than enough attention on the national scene....RU stands to make some waves if they can somehow upset Ohio State.
BUT if you get to NW on Thursday night and are in the game again and somehow make NW sweat for 40 minutes and steal a W, there would be no argument against playing the CBI.
If you go 2-1 in Washington DC, that would be 2 of the most impressive W's of the season on paper (two better teams away from home)....it would be very difficult to not imagine that fans/students would not watch a CBI game on TV or at the RAC....the enormous press/coverage after two of those types of upsets, would have everyone buzzing....
In either case, Wednesday W, would mean more than anything....get to play the darling NW on a neutral site and you'll have more than enough attention on the national scene....RU stands to make some waves if they can somehow upset Ohio State.
You guys really forget that this is a YOUNG and INEXPEREINCED basketball team coming into this year.
Count the total minutes played by this team at a division level level of the entire roster
This team will benefit massively from playing as much as possible
Count the total minutes played by this team at a division level level of the entire roster
This team will benefit massively from playing as much as possible
