@Russ Wood , I'm curious, why did you have Cluess and Pikiell as part of your top 3 that Rutgers should pursue?
Cluess Top Target
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No panic here, but I hope Hobbs can do better than Cluess. Too old and little to show that he can recruit at a Big 10 level.
Google David Laury arrested. You will see how Cluess runs his program, like a half way house. But if that is what you want then hire him I just hope the Rutgers administration is ok with felons playing while awaiting trial.
Like I said if he's seriously being considered I'd expect Hobbs to be going over any "shady" recruiting issues like that. We've had the bad pub and I suspect we'd be ultra sensitive to that stuff. So if Hobbs is the AD people say he is than I expect any of these things to be vetted and discussed beforehand.
If this is true, it would be the latest in a long, long line of colossal Rutgers hiring mistakes. I've almost totally checked out on this program for years now, and this hiring would only continue that. I imagine that's the case for a lot of people. There aren't many left.
meh would prefer others and there others out there so I would be highly disappointed
I still like Dooley the best out of the realistic options. Pedigree, recruiting chops and solid coaching experience. Everyone from the low mid majors is a question mark but I think he's the best to gamble on from the bunch.
And while I've liked Cluess in the past finding out more about these off the court type recruiting issues makes me a little apprehensive. Hopefully Hobbs has that stuff straightened out before any decision is made.
lots of red flags with character kids and his teams play absolutely no defense...yes he could be hired...but I dont see him as the best candidate Hobbs should be able to pull better and yes Hurley was better for what he could provide
Of that list, I'd say Payne, Dooley, Boyle, Masiello, Cluess and Pikiell. Pikiell would be a disaster. Cluess not far behind. And I don't get the love for Masiello, either.
Masielo....from the Pitino tree and his former pupils have done very well, great reputation as a recruiter and his teams play tough hard nosed defense and uptempo offense....just like Pitino. The resume thing was over 1 course.
Unfortunately, the ghost of Mike Rice is still haunting Rutgers because some are tagging him as "Mike Rice lite".
why has Hobbs shunned Herb Sendek despite interest
I just started another thread asking exactly that! And I think this is the most I have posted on here in 5-6 years. LOL
we could have hired Cluess instead of Rice, we could have hired Cluess instead of Jordan, so here we are now looking at him when he is 57 and we apparently have an AD who is supposed to know his hoops and have more money to spend...something seems wrong with this picture
He has been talked about here and I think most like him but think he's out of the picture for one reason or another. He's been discussed as a candidate for Santa Clara. So maybe he likes it out west or Hobbs isn't interested. I'd think he could have been hired already if there was interest on both sides.
Unless there is something about Sendek that none of us know, then it's just sheer stupidity. Of all of the coaches who are available, he is the most accomplished. By far. But at Rutgers, sheer stupidity if the norm. Will it be different with Hobbs? We will find out. Hopefully real soon.
Have to take your word on this one, bac. Don't need him if this is a pattern. I tried to look up what that one guy said about his player, David Laury, but only saw that he was arrested on a misdemeanor. No word on disposition. I'm assuming you're referring to a number of such issues.
If Cluess runs a program like some are claiming, I doubt he'd be on Hobbs' short list with the recent RU troubles still fresh in everyone's mind and ripe for another media attack over the way he ran the Iona program if he was hired .
With all the names being thrown out by the media, it seems to me some of the media are pushing who they think Rutgers should hire instead of just reporting what Hobbs is really doing during his search for the next RU MBB HC.
Could be the members of the media trying to follow the search are not getting solid info and just reporting about the rumors that are hearing and spinning those rumors he way they see fit.
With all the names being thrown out by the media, it seems to me some of the media are pushing who they think Rutgers should hire instead of just reporting what Hobbs is really doing during his search for the next RU MBB HC.
Could be the members of the media trying to follow the search are not getting solid info and just reporting about the rumors that are hearing and spinning those rumors he way they see fit.
I was just wondering that myself. None of this really seems to have any rhyme or reason to it outside of the obvious interest in Hurley, who would have been great, too.
Why bother firing Eddie Jordan if Cluess is even being considered? It would be a pathetic hire.....I'd be dumbfounded if this is the case....
It's just media speculation. Hobbs has not tipped his hand.
No one has any idea where this thing will end.....only Hobbs.
There are enough red flags mentioned in this thread to make me think there are better choices. None of these guys are close to slam dunks. Don't understand the lack of interest in Sendek if he is interested. Hobbs needs to remain patient. I kind of hope this is not settled until at least the end of next week given the names being speculated.
I'm just hoping that Hobbs is using Zags to float a trial balloon, and/or laying a smokescreen to mask his real targets. This better not go down. Get Dooley or Boyle first.
Agree. At this point I refuse to believe that Cluess is Hobbs' top choice. The negative reaction from the RU fan base will be epic. Hobbs is too smart to put himself in that position.
Iona BB is the bully of the MAAC and have been known to bend the rules for years. There is rarely more than one other decent team in the conference so their path to the tournament is fairly easy.
I'm not going to worry about this until there is an announcement. Could it be that Hobbs is allowing Cluess's name to be floated to gauge fan reaction ? If so then he has his answer.
The lack of defense doesn't bother me, that's the style you have to accept that and realize that going in. The jucos/transfers don't bother me either because you do what you have to do to get that talent to undesirable location, similar to Bill Snyder at KSU. BUT these reports of recruiting questionable characters is worrisome and something I'd rather steer clear of if true as we don't need any bad pub. Also would have liked to see a win or 2 in one of the tourneys, specifically the NIT, to show that he could get it done against better competition even if he might have been the lower seed.
So while he was near the top of my list in the past, I'd have to knock him down a quite a few pegs if those questionable recruiting issues are true. So Dooley is at the top for me and I guess Pikiell next after him. It's too bad Keatts might have that Louisville "stain" on him otherwise he would be an interesting candidate as well.
So while he was near the top of my list in the past, I'd have to knock him down a quite a few pegs if those questionable recruiting issues are true. So Dooley is at the top for me and I guess Pikiell next after him. It's too bad Keatts might have that Louisville "stain" on him otherwise he would be an interesting candidate as well.
a few people have posted this.
I will say this...going into next season WITHOUT a coach would be better than keeping Jordan
so let's get that straight right now...Jordan was that bad.
I have to believe this is the case.
Given the upside, I would go with Boyle vs. Cluess. I know there are concerns with him also, but I still take Boyle
Something tells me there's more going on than meets the eye here...
Cluess would be an epic fail for "Can Do" Hobbs.
So, he can win at a mid-major with high-maintenance kids? Whoop-de-damn-do. Sorry, don't see that translating to the B1G or the politically correct environment of Rutgers. IF Hobbs is stupid enough to hire him, something embarrassing will pop up about the strings Cluess pulled to get certain kids and keep them eligible and Hobbs will be scrambling for a replacement in 2-3 months. Only at Rutgers ...
So, he can win at a mid-major with high-maintenance kids? Whoop-de-damn-do. Sorry, don't see that translating to the B1G or the politically correct environment of Rutgers. IF Hobbs is stupid enough to hire him, something embarrassing will pop up about the strings Cluess pulled to get certain kids and keep them eligible and Hobbs will be scrambling for a replacement in 2-3 months. Only at Rutgers ...
I've posted endlessly about what a bad option Cluess would be. At least others are finally realizing why I say he could never build his teams in a power conference the way he does in the MAAC. Criminals, bad personalities, and guys who couldn't cut it in big conferences (for off court reasons) that only Cluess was willing to bring in.
I'll give you one more name in addition to Laury to look up: Jordan Washington. He had major talent but was decribed as having a "volcanic personality" and all major programs stayed away. Arizona State took a chance on him and he was charged with larceny after robbing a Walmart. Who was the only guy willing to take him after Arizona State dropped him? Tim Cluess. Do not go near this guy. Steve Masiello is the best option on the board by miles and he's a far superior candidate to Cluess. I can't believe that he's received almost no consideration (as far as we know).
I'll give you one more name in addition to Laury to look up: Jordan Washington. He had major talent but was decribed as having a "volcanic personality" and all major programs stayed away. Arizona State took a chance on him and he was charged with larceny after robbing a Walmart. Who was the only guy willing to take him after Arizona State dropped him? Tim Cluess. Do not go near this guy. Steve Masiello is the best option on the board by miles and he's a far superior candidate to Cluess. I can't believe that he's received almost no consideration (as far as we know).
I didn't realize any of this about Cluess so now I'm not so sure. Dooleys team played well yesterday. I guess he should be interviewed. I don't know if I want an assistant in basketball. Ash is different because a coordinator from a national championship team is in the spotlight. I don't think basketball assistants find the spotlight until they become head coaches. I don't know if that's the right answer but I would much rather have a guy who lead a ship himself for a few years and won.
You people are acting like cluess is some loser coach. The guy has won at every level . Newsflash: shady dealings happen all over in college baskebtall . You don't want a shady coach , but you need a shady coach here .
You think Kevin Boyle or others follow all the rules ?
However , I think there are better options like sendek and Dooley and Boyle . But to say cluess is going to be a complete disaster is just inaccurate .
You think Kevin Boyle or others follow all the rules ?
However , I think there are better options like sendek and Dooley and Boyle . But to say cluess is going to be a complete disaster is just inaccurate .
So you are saying that Masiello is going to hypothetically be able to fill a legit power 5 roster at Rutgers with blue chip choir boy non jucos and non transfers? Leapfrogging us above every other established local bball school. While Cluess only has the ability to recruit from Rikers Island Junior College?
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