CVS goes nuclear on the RAC
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LOL. i hope you didn't go to rutgers. you think the most successful coach in RU history should be doing things other than coaching. you think the only support we have in trenton should "shut the F up". you think RU fans should stop "piling on". like that's how to achieve success? if the RU admin can't take the criticism, they should do something to change it. whining and crying about what other people say has never solved any problem in the history of the world.
This post was edited on 3/20 2:52 PM by vm7118
Odd that you couple the "I hope you didn't go to Rutgers" pot shot with those two statements, and a closing point that completely contradicts what you just said. .
Enlighten me, how has Lesniak supported Rutgers by encouraging it to borrow to build athletics facilities? Barchi is a pretty smart guy, I'm sure he knows the school could borrow more money if it wanted to. Telling someone else to borrow money to make something the way you want it is not "supporting" in any sense of the word. It is criticizing.
As to CVS, yes. I think she should refrain from criticizing the school she works for, and whom she is paid very well by. As I said above, she has never done anything to help the problem. If she thinks that she shouldn't have to meet with fans and donors like every other Rutgers coach does, and like the majority of other coaches around the country do, then she shouldn't complain to the media that she isn't getting nice facilities. When she is doing the things in her power to help the AD, then she can feel free to criticize.
You say "whining and crying about what people say has never solved any problem in the history of the world." So how is the whining and crying of a legislator who is not willing to lobby for budget increases, the whining and crying of a coach who is not willing to do any fan/donor outreach, and the whining and crying of fans who are unwilling to donate any different? Understand my point, I am not saying there isn't a problem, I am saying that all of these people need to be doing what they can to fix it. Sitting around saying "Barchi and Hermann don't know what they are doing," doesn't help a damn thing.
This post was edited on 3/20 3:31 PM by Ole Cabbagehead
you don't seem to get it. people are "piling on" simply because they are encouraging others to do their JOBS. what they are paid for. what we pay them for, through tax dollars, tuition, student fees, tickets, donations. and we all have every right to voice our opinions. as they have a right to voice theirs (stringer, lesniak, JH, RB included). we aren't whining about what people say - we are whining about what people are DOING (or not doing). we want people to take concrete action. yes, that also means lesniak, but why do you think he hasn't started already?
http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2015/03/state_sen_raymond_lesniak_applauds_c_vivian_string.html
"Lesniak, who has talked of implementing a plan to upgrade the Rutgers Athletic Center and build a practice facility with both private contributions and public funds, called Stringer's comments "a big boost'' for his efforts.
"I guarantee this is going to get done,'' Lesniak said."
notice i didn't tell you to stop doing anything - you can complain about the complainers as much as you want. the difference is, you are telling people to "shut the f up" because they are voicing their opinions. on the other hand, we want 1) action, or at least 2) to hear about the behind the scenes planning. just don't expect us to suffer in silence when only half of the equation (us) is doing their part (fan support).
Are you saying alumni, donors, fans have done their part to support RU Basketball?
If that was the case, RU would have built a new basketball practice facility some 5-10 years ago with donations from their "fans/supporters".
Bottom line...they haven't been doing their part either (just like the Administration/leadership), as the future of basketball (facility wise) is rudderless, without a leader.
I get paid to argue from 9-5, but I certainly read what you said to imply we should not have taken the med school because it would hamper athletic investment.
At the end of the day, I am alumni and a fan. RU is on my resume so I'd be pretty annoyed if we took on the attitude that some schools take towards letting anything go while they are a glorified community college.
So yeah, I think academics outweighs athletics, RU is an academic institution, not a professional franchise.
That said, I don't think we should cut sports- we need to aggressively fundraise and demand the state invest.
Barchi serves at the leisure of the board, so they direct him and his goals. He is a mere puppet of their priorities. But again, that said, has no bearing because our donors and state support were abysmal before his arrival, which are two issues no one wants to talk about because it's much harder to fingerpoint.
He is doing this on every board and really I don't see why this is tolerated. Nuts gets banned, yet EVERY post from 66 is about JH. I'm waiting for her to take the blame for the snow and the guy having to take a job in Pennsyltucky.
At some point this board needs to make a decision and either criticism of all RU AD employees is tolerated or it goes full BWI.
Corzine did donate 1M of his own and took the heat along with BM and McC, though as you point out, BM paid the ultimate price.
That said, JH, nor anyone, takes RU the job without knowing they may end up a martyr. We need this and some big names are behind it. And I agree with those saying that JH urged this and maybe even Lesniak as a plant.
