We are in different spots. Connecticut has 3-4 NBA players on this team. We have potentially one. Connecticut is now reloading each year. We are still building. Both coaches came from different starting points. In 2 years Rutgers will have caught up to Connecticut. Hurley comes across as a jackass. Especially when things don’t go his way. Pike is a consummate professional. I would send my 4-5 star son to play for Pike over Hurley
Danny Hurley's the Real Deal
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Nah. He wanted 7 years, $2.2 million/yr fully guaranteed and some language about a practice facility. Hobbs wouldnt do it. He settled on pike who is now on effectively an 8 year contract for on average about $3.6mm/yr LOL and has a full practice facility. And oh yeah, uconn gave him 6 years > $2mm/yr a couple years later. Worth every penny
I would rather be good at one of the two sports. We are getting there in hoops .
My point is people like to puff out their chests about getting all this tv money …but it doesn’t matter it’s about having teams that are good and you can be proud of . Basketball is good and fits that bill
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@ancienthooper put it this way, id rather have an asshole bring us to the final 4 than a nice guy get run out the gym in the nit by hofstra
You know it’s okay to disagree but to compare what Hurley wanted THEN to what pike is getting NOW is just dishonest
I believe pikes original contract was 5-year deal worth $8M.
So the comparison is 5 years at $1.6/ year vs Hurley wanting 7 years at $2.2/year. Big difference
UConn's losses this year
| Xavier L, 83-73 |
| Providence L, 73-61 |
| Marquette L, 82-76 |
| St. John's L, 85-74 |
| Seton Hall L, 67-66 |
| Xavier L, 82-79 |
| Creighton L, 56-53 |
| Marquette L, 70-68 |
You don't know what Hurley would accomplish here.
You know that and you're being dishonest with your argument (shocker!)
You're just still on your Pike sucks bone...
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Not really a big difference tbh. $600K extra a year is peanuts. But hey, saying we couldn't do an extra $600K/yr for a top tier coach is honestly the issue Rutgers athletics has dealt with for 100+ years and is why we are where we are today.
There is a huge difference between taking over a program that hadn't been to the NCAAs since 1991 and a record of 120-197 the 10 years prior to being hired than taken over a program that had won 2 National Championships, 1 Calhoun, 1 Ollie, and lost in the National Championship semis, Calhoun, in the 10 years prior to being hired and a record of 228-123. 4 Titles since 1991.
Kyle is still seething with hatred for Pike. Haters gonna hate.
Long time RU fans will remember Danny as an asst coach at RU under Bannon. I met Danny one season at a booster event and remember him telling me what a great opportunity it was for him to be coaching at RU.
How times change.
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Disagree. Ash asked hobbs for 7-8 and got it. Ash had hobbs put in his contract that if "sanction" were levied he got an auto 2-3 year extension. Those "sanctions" were levied in the form of like 5 less days of visits.
The total deal was 8 million vs nearly 16 million
But keep spinning to fit wherever narrative you’re after
Have a nice day
Danny was the best assistant coach when Bannon was head coach.I attended practices where he ran most of the drills.
His dad was a great HS coach, brother Bobby is a fairly good one , but can't put him in the top of line category nor say he won't get there.
Danny is proving to be a real good one, maybe on way to greatness, but this great 2022-23 season just puts him on the fast track to that classification
and we must see if he can continue having UConn a great program before we dub greatness on him.
He's at a program that gives him a better chance to make the great grade becuse UConn is a traditional power that has a reputation of success that impresses the top HS talent and makes it easier to recruit them than a program just starting to be recognized as a winner after wondering in the
basketball wastelands for around 50 years.
He just wanted to coach outside of NJ. Not much more than that. I wouldn’t take it personally.
It amazes me that anyone can actually criticize the Pike hiring. People must have nothing else to do with their time. Why can’t it be true that Hurley and Pike are very good coaches? Not sure how anyone could be that shortsighted to shit on Pike right now. It’s funny how people like Kyk who championed Greg’s hiring don’t start threads how a guy like Leipold was not a better option
Thank you. They were both good hires for both programs. Kyk should be ignored with regard to Pike. He’s already gone on record as saying that Pike is a great man. He just loves wearing the black hat in these threads and everyone gives him the negative attention that he craves.
Yep . But if hobbs would have given it, he would have came. Kinda like schiano doubling the minnesota OC salary.
Happy with pike . He’s doing a good job . Who knows what Hurley would have done
I don’t blame him. Eddie Jordan left the program in a state of steaming garbage. I don’t blame Hurley for asking for way more than he was worth (AT THE TIME). Don’t blame him at all.
I just don’t appreciate the revisionist history/ twisting facts displayed by some
Rutgers
2014-15 10-22 KP #198, 15-16 7-25 KP #279
Rutgers _________________ UConn
2016-17 15-18 KP 135, 2016-17 16-17 KP 96 (Ollie)
2017-18 15-19 KP 130, 2017-18 14-18 KP 179 (Ollie)
2018-19 14-17 KP 78, 2018-19 16-17 KP 98 (Hurley)
2019-20 20-11 KP 28, 2019-20 19-12 KP 52
2020-21 16-12 KP 38, 2020-21 15-8 KP 21
2021-22 18-14 KP 77, 2021-22 23-10 KP 22
2022-23 19-15 KP 39, 2022-23 29-8 KP #1
Last 5 yrs, Rutgers 87-59, UConn 102-55
Highs of #14(16-7) this year when Mag was healthy and we will never know the answer of what might have been if not for the unfortunate injury. There was definitely something off in the chemistry of that 2021-22 team and the Jaden Jones enigma.
You can't compared how low this team was in coaching, talent, and level of play in 2015-16 to the team Hurley took over after 2017-18, who were getting 4 and 5 stars guys 2014-16 before the big drop off in recruiting in 2017-18.
I'm fine with trajectory of this team under Pike, who is just getting started recruiting and getting commitments from high 4 and 5 star guys next couple of years. You ever think that he designs his offensive sets on what each players does well on offense to maximize the offense and when the new talent from the 23 and 24 classes arrive that you will see a much more improved offense based on the skill sets of those players we are bringing in.
2014-15 10-22 KP #198, 15-16 7-25 KP #279
Rutgers _________________ UConn
2016-17 15-18 KP 135, 2016-17 16-17 KP 96 (Ollie)
2017-18 15-19 KP 130, 2017-18 14-18 KP 179 (Ollie)
2018-19 14-17 KP 78, 2018-19 16-17 KP 98 (Hurley)
2019-20 20-11 KP 28, 2019-20 19-12 KP 52
2020-21 16-12 KP 38, 2020-21 15-8 KP 21
2021-22 18-14 KP 77, 2021-22 23-10 KP 22
2022-23 19-15 KP 39, 2022-23 29-8 KP #1
Last 5 yrs, Rutgers 87-59, UConn 102-55
Highs of #14(16-7) this year when Mag was healthy and we will never know the answer of what might have been if not for the unfortunate injury. There was definitely something off in the chemistry of that 2021-22 team and the Jaden Jones enigma.
You can't compared how low this team was in coaching, talent, and level of play in 2015-16 to the team Hurley took over after 2017-18, who were getting 4 and 5 stars guys 2014-16 before the big drop off in recruiting in 2017-18.
I'm fine with trajectory of this team under Pike, who is just getting started recruiting and getting commitments from high 4 and 5 star guys next couple of years. You ever think that he designs his offensive sets on what each players does well on offense to maximize the offense and when the new talent from the 23 and 24 classes arrive that you will see a much more improved offense based on the skill sets of those players we are bringing in.
Hurley walked into a situation at Uconn where they had a history of winning, just entered back into the Big east, and this is important - had a well developed recruiting formula including big time donors to that program. How do you think they were able to walk into Roselle Catholic and get a commitment from Sanogo and Cory Floyd. They have recruited 13 four stars and a player from Israel since 2020. The starting five and the whole bench are all 4 and 5 star players.
It's their players who are winning. Coach Hurley is window dressing.
It's their players who are winning. Coach Hurley is window dressing.
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Yup let's not forget Kevin Ollie won a national championship at Uconn and then couldn't get another job until OTE came along.
No thanks.
Maybe if I'm looking for an NBA coach to watch, as a molder of men, a college coach I'll take Pike over anyone I've seen. Rick Pitino for example is a better coach, and almost certainly wins more games with the same players, but my heart could never be in it with one of his teams, just a bad guy.
I’ll take pike over this guy any day. Pike has overachieved with his recruits. Hurley has achieved with his. He’s benefited from the Calhoun legacy with high level recruits.
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I'd take pitino and danny in a heartbeat. I care about winning personally though
A bowl game and a final four in the same year for UCONN. I thought their athletics program was dead and buried?
football on life support, though doing better than expected, but basketball has always been their strong point and no one claimed their MBB & WBB programs were dead and buried.
Husky FB is a surprise 6-6 regular season , not a tough schedule but had some good wins. but lets see if they stay away from BCS death's door or have to drop down to FCS to survive
Conn WBB isn't the best anymore, but still a top one.
MBB is a top program and has been for ages a top program.
Dead and buried: NOT
he was scared to take the rutgers job. Too big of a job with too much risk. Didn’t have the guts to do it. All that tough guy schtick is just that…. a schtick.
