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Danny Manning staying at Wake Forest, rendering this thread irrelevant.

Who is making the decision at Wake Forest--the AD who is retiring, the new AD, or the President of the school? If this was Rutgers, I wouldn't mention the President of the school since I have seen Pres. Barchi at ONE basketball game since he got here, It was vs. Penn. a few years ago and he sat with people wearing Penn. gear.
 
My prediction:

They're gonna keep Manning and then have a nice year because somehow a team that has been just about as bad as we have this decade (save one tournament appearance) managed to keep pulling in quality recruits year after year. And I'm going to be pissed off about it all year.
Wake Forest earned the mess they are in.

They fired a Coach 15 months after his team was ranked No. 1 in the country then the AD hired his buddy, Jeff Bzdelik who posted a stellar 36–58 in his only high major job, then hiring Manning after he went 38–29 in two seasons at Tulsa (Conference USA).

One bad decision after another
 
Wake Forest earned the mess they are in.

They fired a Coach 15 months after his team was ranked No. 1 in the country then the AD hired his buddy, Jeff Bzdelik who posted a stellar 36–58 in his only high major job, then hiring Manning after he went 38–29 in two seasons at Tulsa (Conference USA).

One bad decision after another

Do you have any sense what it is that draws guys like Massoud or Jaylen Hoard to the school then?
 
kc, I don't know how important it is to a kid,but I have been there and it is a pretty nice campus. I wouldn't put it up there with West Point,but still very nice.
 
kc, I don't know how important it is to a kid,but I have been there and it is a pretty nice campus. I wouldn't put it up there with West Point,but still very nice.
Great campus. Great Academics. Small school. Small city.
 
I rechecked with my source of information and he clarified what he told me, and I posted here, earlier.

On the new AD John Currie...

What I meant is he doesn't have his footing yet. He is still meeting money ppl.The issue is they need the money for firing Manning. It's $13-$18 million to make a change firing him and hiring new guy. That's a lot for a small AA even though they have rich donors. Chris Paul had to pay for their locker room upgrade. I don't think they are flush with cash. Their revenue is not far ahead of some G5 programs. Something doesn't compute money wise. You know what I mean?
 
Schools don't usually fire a coach unless they have a pretty good chance or idea that they have a couple of candidates that would take the job. Once some schools like Wofford and UNCG get eliminated or lose in the NIT, you'll start to see movement.
 
Well it seems a little more palatable if that $13-18MM includes paying the new staff. Still a considerable sum however.
 
Well it seems a little more palatable if that $13-18MM includes paying the new staff. Still a considerable sum however.
Manning's buyout is reportedly between $13-18 million. Lately the number $16 million has been popping up in my text messages. So, if those people are correct, let's say it is $16 million to tell Coach Manning to clean out his office. Someone has to write a pretty big check (nobody I've spoken to knows if his buyout is to be paid in installments or a lump sum) because Ron Wellman was so giddy that Manning guided Wake to a No. 11 seed and the "First Four" round of the 2017 NCAA Tournament (where they lost to K-State) that he gave Manning an extension and basically guaranteed each year of the contract.

Wellman is the same AD who fired Dino Gaudio and hired his buddy Jeff Bzdelik. In three seasons Gaudio was 61-31 at Wake and took the team to two NCAA Tournaments. In Gaudio's second season at Wake they finished in third place in the ACC. Thirteen months later Wellman fired Gaudio who went on to become an ESPN CBB in-studio analyst.
 
Danny manning isn't just a bad basketball coach..he fails the kids he recruits in other ways too. He has graduated a total of one recruit over five years while running off 11 of his recruits.

Great campus. Great Academics. Small school. Small city.
Yeah the academics really don't mean anything if the kids don't graduate from wake.
 
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Danny manning isn't just a bad basketball coach..he fails the kids he recruits in other ways too. He has graduated a total of one recruit over five years while running off 11 of his recruits.


Yeah the academics really don't mean anything if the kids don't graduate from wake.
You think the kids going there don’t plan on graduating or plan on getting run off?
 
Danny manning isn't just a bad basketball coach..he fails the kids he recruits in other ways too. He has graduated a total of one recruit over five years while running off 11 of his recruits.


Yeah the academics really don't mean anything if the kids don't graduate from wake.
I don't think he ran off 11 kids.

For example...John Collins left after his sophomore year because he was a first-round draft pick. Doral Moore was an idiot, or got idiotic advice from adults around him, and declared for the draft when he would not have been drafted if there were 20 rounds to the NBA draft. Several kids did transfer transfer but several were surprised to the staff.
 
Manning staying. Thread title updated. No Massoud.

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. - Danny Manning is being retained as Wake Forest's head basketball coach, Athletics Director Ron Wellman announced Friday.

"Daniel is a man of great character and integrity who makes every decision for the long-term benefit of the program and the University," said Wellman. "At this time, Daniel and I felt that new leadership would not help the program and allow the student-athletes to reach their full potential.

"Daniel's five years with us have produced many positive results. He has recruited very good people, both players and staff, to Wake Forest. He has had high expectations, both on and off the court, of everyone associated with our program. Over the last five years the team has shown improvement on the court and superb improvement off the court."

"During my year-end review with Ron, we discussed the overall status of the program which I believe is very positive," said Manning. "The right players are in place who have the values that are important at Wake Forest. At the end of the discussion, I told Ron that I should be retained because there needs to be a positive environment for the players to realize their potential. I appreciate the opportunity given to me at Wake Forest. I look forward to decades of future success at the helm of this program."

Manning has posted a record of 65-93 overall and 24-66 in Atlantic Coast Conference games during his five years.
 
Nothing changes here....just wait a year until he's fired next year and Massoud transfers out....delaying the inevitable down in Winston Salem NC.
 
I think the buyout was just too much. Massoud might just leave in the future if Manning is let go but he would probably have to sit out a year at that time.
 
Time to put Massoud in the rear view mirror. We put our best foot forward recruiting him yet for some reason Wake was preferred. Not going to keep thinking at some point he will wind up here. If Manning was fired that was plausible. Less so as time moves forward and he starts his career there and we fill our open slots for 19 and 20..
 
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