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Defensive game plan vs Purdue....let Edey and Williams go wild

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When you are playing a well coached team, that wants to shoot 3s and is used to making all of the right plays, you have to make a team play a certain way.....in order to defeat Purdue, you have to force them to let Edey and Trevion Williams score, 1 on 1........

Why would you allow a 7'3 player, free reign to attack Cliff Omoyuri, Dean Reiber or Ralph Agee.....why would you allow Williams freedom in the paint, 1 on 1.....??

Because a barrage of potential dunks or layups, is still just worth 2 points.....giving up open 3s, to Ivey, Stefanovic, Aaron Thompson and others is what Purdue wants to do more of....

If you are RU and you are Paul Mulcahy, Jaden Jones, Caleb McConnell, Mawot Mag, Geo Baker and RHJ, just stay attached to your player at the 3 point line.....if a player cuts to the basket for a layup, tip your hat and keep playing.

If RU thinks that you can have slower footed defensive players, trying to double team and then get back out on shooters, good luck......Purdue passes the ball and executes better than Illinois does. If you cannot close out on shooters after trying to double Kofi Cockburn, you will have less than ZERO chance, trying to outrun the crisp passing of Purdue.

Keep Purdue to about 5 to 6 3s made per game, and RU will be in this game until the wire.....if Edey and Williams combine for 45+ points and you give up another 6 3s, you have a chance to keep up and shorten the possessions.

This really should be a matchup that RU is familiar with and understands what Purdue wants or expects.....when a team is used to catch and shoot 3s and they don't get them, it will frustrate and throw them off.....it's one thing to see Edey and Williams continue to possibly score and think you are doing a bad job coaching, if they keep going to the post....but you have to give up something and I am not doubling the post and am not allowing Purdue to shoot 20+ 3 pointers......give up 2s, not 3s....
 
Agree. 3 is always bigger than 2. And that is why we must also continue to take 3 point shots......Just like in betting sporting events, 11 is always bigger than 10 and that is why the vig will eventually kill you even if you can pick games at a 50-50 clip.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
When you are playing a well coached team, that wants to shoot 3s and is used to making all of the right plays, you have to make a team play a certain way.....in order to defeat Purdue, you have to force them to let Edey and Trevion Williams score, 1 on 1........

Why would you allow a 7'3 player, free reign to attack Cliff Omoyuri, Dean Reiber or Ralph Agee.....why would you allow Williams freedom in the paint, 1 on 1.....??

Because a barrage of potential dunks or layups, is still just worth 2 points.....giving up open 3s, to Ivey, Stefanovic, Aaron Thompson and others is what Purdue wants to do more of....

If you are RU and you are Paul Mulcahy, Jaden Jones, Caleb McConnell, Mawot Mag, Geo Baker and RHJ, just stay attached to your player at the 3 point line.....if a player cuts to the basket for a layup, tip your hat and keep playing.

If RU thinks that you can have slower footed defensive players, trying to double team and then get back out on shooters, good luck......Purdue passes the ball and executes better than Illinois does. If you cannot close out on shooters after trying to double Kofi Cockburn, you will have less than ZERO chance, trying to outrun the crisp passing of Purdue.

Keep Purdue to about 5 to 6 3s made per game, and RU will be in this game until the wire.....if Edey and Williams combine for 45+ points and you give up another 6 3s, you have a chance to keep up and shorten the possessions.

This really should be a matchup that RU is familiar with and understands what Purdue wants or expects.....when a team is used to catch and shoot 3s and they don't get them, it will frustrate and throw them off.....it's one thing to see Edey and Williams continue to possibly score and think you are doing a bad job coaching, if they keep going to the post....but you have to give up something and I am not doubling the post and am not allowing Purdue to shoot 20+ 3 pointers......give up 2s, not 3s....
I'm not so sure that playing man defense against them is the way to go. We don't match-up well with them. They're going to run their offense and pick and screen our players and we don't have the ability imo to recover and stay close. I'd play zone and double when you have the chance. Also, giving them layups seems curious.
 
Another day, Another Dissertation from the clueless @NewJerseyHawk.

RU has had great success versus Purdue the last few years, I trust Pike's gameplan over a Mortgage Lenders but that's just me

Aww...you're feelings are still bruised from being shredded on your nonsense in the other thread.....stop crying and hanging on my every word and post.....don't play yourself out....LMAO

I'm actually a really nice guy and person in general, we'd probably get along great if we met in person......but don't think you can compare past Purdue teams to this one, I would like to think a team that at worst is Top 7 or 8 in Purdue for this season (not ready to put them in the Duke Gonzaga area), is like past Boilermaker rosters....you do realize they're, #1 this week???
 
Aww...you're feelings are still bruised from being shredded on your nonsense in the other thread.....stop crying and hanging on my every word and post.....don't play yourself out....LMAO

I'm actually a really nice guy and person in general, we'd probably get along great if we met in person......but don't think you can compare past Purdue teams to this one, I would like to think a team that at worst is Top 7 or 8 in Purdue for this season (not ready to put them in the Duke Gonzaga area), is like past Boilermaker rosters....you do realize they're, #1 this week???
My feelings aren't hurt at all, I am just not going to put my friends name out on message board for your pleasure, if you asked me privately then I wouldn't care, but I wasn't lying or making shit up
 
Let's simplify it....

10 3s vs Carolina
10 3s vs Nova
12 3s vs Florida State
8 3s vs Iowa

Only one of the 4 games, was Purdue held to under 80 points....77 vs Iowa.

RU doesn't have an 80 PPG roster, unless you play Jaden Jones, Hyatt 26 to 28 minutes and they hit some 3s..... unless you're expecting a barrage of 3s from RHJ, Mag and others......obviously Baker playing or hitting 3 to 5 3s would help.

Game score has to be in the low 70s, to have a chance......
 
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I agree with the premise but we still get spanked tonight. The team has shown for years now that the offense has no rhythm and can't shoot. Now we have lost the intensity and defensive identity that we used to rely on.

I've typically been bullish on the team for the last few years, but until this team shows me something different, it's hard to see this game being remotely close... especially if the flu has been running through the team
 
Aww...you're feelings are still bruised from being shredded on your nonsense in the other thread.....stop crying and hanging on my every word and post.....don't play yourself out....LMAO

I'm actually a really nice guy and person in general, we'd probably get along great if we met in person......but don't think you can compare past Purdue teams to this one, I would like to think a team that at worst is Top 7 or 8 in Purdue for this season (not ready to put them in the Duke Gonzaga area), is like past Boilermaker rosters....you do realize they're, #1 this week???
A few weeks ago you were saying Purdue was definitely not a final four team now AT WORST their top 8…

Agree we should throw our past Purdue experiences out the window too much has changed with both sides
 
Agree. 3 is always bigger than 2. And that is why we must also continue to take 3 point shots......Just like in betting sporting events, 11 is always bigger than 10 and that is why the vig will eventually kill you even if you can pick games at a 50-50 clip.

Best of Luck,
Groz
I would agree but with the way we’re shopping right now nice easy twos and fouls off layups is the way we win games rn. Unless RHJ, Jaden, GEO come out draining hella 3’s.
 
I agree with the premise but we still get spanked tonight. The team has shown for years now that the offense has no rhythm and can't shoot. Now we have lost the intensity and defensive identity that we used to rely on.

I've typically been bullish on the team for the last few years, but until this team shows me something different, it's hard to see this game being remotely close... especially if the flu has been running through the team
The flu is running through the team?
 
Another day, Another Dissertation from the clueless @NewJerseyHawk.

RU has had great success versus Purdue the last few years, I trust Pike's gameplan over a Mortgage Lenders but that's just me
But this is not the same team from the last few years. Maybe you haven't noticed. Our help defense gets abused on the regular. We struggle mightily defending the open 3s caused by our help D. Look, there are no good choices in this one, but Hawk's take is by no means clueless.
 
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The only way we disrupt Purdue is press them. Iowa did it and almost won the game. Switch defenses often , man , zone , 1/3/1 trap. Do not give them the same look 10 times down the court as their passing and screens and sets will eventually kill us.
Offensively take it to them and aggressively go to the hoop and get them in foul trouble . Crash the offensive glass on every possession and press after every made basket. Or at the very least after a made basket , our guard , Caleb or Miller picks up full court and harasses their smaller guards since Painter only had his smaller guards bring it up against Iowa and for some reason did not use Ivey.
You cannot play this game like any of the prior 8 games on film, especially defensively.
 
When you are playing a well coached team, that wants to shoot 3s and is used to making all of the right plays, you have to make a team play a certain way.....in order to defeat Purdue, you have to force them to let Edey and Trevion Williams score, 1 on 1........

Why would you allow a 7'3 player, free reign to attack Cliff Omoyuri, Dean Reiber or Ralph Agee.....why would you allow Williams freedom in the paint, 1 on 1.....??

Because a barrage of potential dunks or layups, is still just worth 2 points.....giving up open 3s, to Ivey, Stefanovic, Aaron Thompson and others is what Purdue wants to do more of....

If you are RU and you are Paul Mulcahy, Jaden Jones, Caleb McConnell, Mawot Mag, Geo Baker and RHJ, just stay attached to your player at the 3 point line.....if a player cuts to the basket for a layup, tip your hat and keep playing.

If RU thinks that you can have slower footed defensive players, trying to double team and then get back out on shooters, good luck......Purdue passes the ball and executes better than Illinois does. If you cannot close out on shooters after trying to double Kofi Cockburn, you will have less than ZERO chance, trying to outrun the crisp passing of Purdue.

Keep Purdue to about 5 to 6 3s made per game, and RU will be in this game until the wire.....if Edey and Williams combine for 45+ points and you give up another 6 3s, you have a chance to keep up and shorten the possessions.

This really should be a matchup that RU is familiar with and understands what Purdue wants or expects.....when a team is used to catch and shoot 3s and they don't get them, it will frustrate and throw them off.....it's one thing to see Edey and Williams continue to possibly score and think you are doing a bad job coaching, if they keep going to the post....but you have to give up something and I am not doubling the post and am not allowing Purdue to shoot 20+ 3 pointers......give up 2s, not 3s....
Agree 100% that is what I said we should do against Illinois but we did not our guys dropped down and gave Illinois wide open 3's all game!!! Lets hope these coaches learned from that and like you said our guys will stay on their men and not double
 
watched their game vs Nova...Jaden Ivey is terrifying. he's a more under control, and just as athletic version of Ayo Dosunmo that we went up against last year. with an improving outside game.
 
watched their game vs Nova...Jaden Ivey is terrifying. he's a more under control, and just as athletic version of Ayo Dosunmo that we went up against last year. with an improving outside game.
Ivey is ridiculously fast….and out of control.
 
Yeah, I mean he traveled three times because he kept falling on his lightning fast dribble drives, but of course two of them were somehow called fouls on us - completely phantom fouls.

But the last one was called traveling at the key point in the game.
That last travel on Ivey, he looked like a running back trying to split the defenders. Only took 3 or 4 steps. LOL.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 
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Of course.....enjoy the W.....my lengthy paragraphs to a T....keep score in low 70s to have a chance, stay with shooters, don't double the post....
Good call. We started to double a little late because it was getting to be an automatic bucket but clearly that was the strategy going in.
 
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