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Desperate and Delusional

I have my opinions like anyone else. Don't like em? Don't care.
It wasn't the opinion I referenced, it was the psychoanalysis of the poster who's opinion you disagreed with. I agree with the ride off sentiment
 
Rutgers will hire Rossi to keep the recruiting class intact.
 
I think what pisses off much of the RU fanbase is not so much his proven inability to lead a P5 football program but his brazen middle finger to the fanbase by not giving the backup qb a chance to start a game or given meaningful snaps as his qb pick has proven not to be a BIG level starter. Flood has totally disregarded competition at such a critical position and his out to lunch mentality is proven by his actions of proofing assignments for a student athlete that didn't even care about academics enough to attend and pass a class that did not require much effort.

Flood needs to go fast.

GO RU
 
I think what pisses off much of the RU fanbase is not so much his proven inability to lead a P5 football program but his brazen middle finger to the fanbase by not giving the backup qb a chance to start a game or given meaningful snaps as his qb pick has proven not to be a BIG level starter. Flood has totally disregarded competition at such a critical position and his out to lunch mentality is proven by his actions of proofing assignments for a student athlete that didn't even care about academics enough to attend and pass a class that did not require much effort.

Flood needs to go fast.

GO RU
Barchi is letting our boys hang out there. Just like Hillary and Obama let our men in Bengazi hang out there until they were killed. How can you throw our boys to thd big teams to get beat up and not want to help ?
 
If he's back I'm done with RU football after 50 years of obsessing over it. I'll drop everything related to RU football including this BTN Plus, this board and RT. Having Flood as our coach it just infuriates me that RU leadership is so insensitive and inept.
 
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Wait...he ACTUALLY said that ("have to keep me...") AND THINKS we're "recruiting well"???

HOLY FREAKIN' WOW and DELUSIONAL!!

Rivals 42nd
247 ( loaded w RU guys who overrate us) 52nd
Correction, he thinks we are "recruiting VERY well." As to what he is supposed to say, how about admitting that he needs to step up his recruiting in New Jersey since he is not getting the top players?

Flood never admits that he needs to recruit better or that his coaching is lacking. Never.
 
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I think what pisses off much of the RU fanbase is not so much his proven inability to lead a P5 football program but his brazen middle finger to the fanbase by not giving the backup qb a chance to start a game or given meaningful snaps as his qb pick has proven not to be a BIG level starter. Flood has totally disregarded competition at such a critical position and his out to lunch mentality is proven by his actions of proofing assignments for a student athlete that didn't even care about academics enough to attend and pass a class that did not require much effort.

Flood needs to go fast.

GO RU

So the only coach worth having is one who picks his lineup based on what you want? Is that how it works everywhere else? Gee, never knew that. Can't wait till the next HC determines his starters based on internet voting. Hope it's on the Round Table. Wouldn't want all the PSU fans lurking around help determine who the QB, Kicker or stuff the ballot box making some OL our kick returner.

Were you as pissed as much at Schiano when many of the same posters wanted him to start "The Rocket"? Was he giving the fan base the middle finger too?
 
Did you hear the way Flood pronounced the word "the" in that press conference? What a loser. Sets my teeth on edge. No other D1 coach on the planet pronounces "the" that way. It's embarrassing.

If he's back for 2016, I'm going to be so emotionally overwrought that I'm going to leave the country, live on desert island in the South Pacific and spend my days laying in a hammock and getting drunk on Rum while reminiscing over all the championship-level coaching we RU fans got used to before Flood came along.

BTW, I heard that when he's fired, he's planning to sue the school for $1,000,000,000 (in unmarked bills). Can you believe that guy? What a jerk.
 
This is getting out of hand. Do you really want him to send a message to the kids who have committed to Rutgers that they suck? That they aren't good enough? Are you people f-ing stupid? Look, most of us know Flood is not up to the task. Most of us hope he is gone, although some of us really worry about the hiring process for a new coach. But to pounce on every single thing the guy says as more "evidence" of his ineptitude is foolish and -- to be blunt -- makes you look really, really petty and really, really stupid.
 
So the only coach worth having is one who picks his lineup based on what you want? Is that how it works everywhere else? Gee, never knew that. Can't wait till the next HC determines his starters based on internet voting. Hope it's on the Round Table. Wouldn't want all the PSU fans lurking around help determine who the QB, Kicker or stuff the ballot box making some OL our kick returner.

Were you as pissed as much at Schiano when many of the same posters wanted him to start "The Rocket"? Was he giving the fan base the middle finger too?

Totally different. We have a qb who hasn't thrown a td in how many games??? A far cry from a rb situation when we were not getting 0 production.

I think you know that but are trying to argue for the sake of it. If you don't think Flood has cared about himself to the exclusion of the faithful then you're either not seeing it correctly or just don't want to. 6 picks from Nova and 0 td's for 4-5 weeks and you criticize someone who wants to see a back up qb? Good lord.
 
This is getting out of hand. Do you really want him to send a message to the kids who have committed to Rutgers that they suck? That they aren't good enough? Are you people f-ing stupid? Look, most of us know Flood is not up to the task. Most of us hope he is gone, although some of us really worry about the hiring process for a new coach. But to pounce on every single thing the guy says as more "evidence" of his ineptitude is foolish and -- to be blunt -- makes you look really, really petty and really, really stupid.
Pretty much what I really wanted to say but I went with sarcasm instead. Kudos for being direct.
 
If he's back for 2016, I'm going to be so emotionally overwrought that I'm going to leave the country, live on desert island in the South Pacific and spend my days laying in a hammock and getting drunk on Rum

Could be one crowded island, but I like your plan!
 
I was in Floods corner longer then most..
He lost me for good 48-10 at Wisconsin. The most inexcusable football game I have seen in years..

I don't give a flying crap what he says..We need a fresh start ASAP.
 
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This is getting out of hand. Do you really want him to send a message to the kids who have committed to Rutgers that they suck?

I agree that many look too deeply into what he says, but wouldn't you like to see some anger from him? The team keeps losing and generally keeps getting blown out, yet the public persona he gives is one of "everything is going according to plan."

This isn't nitpicking imo. Most coaches show frustrating during losing streaks or after horrible losses. He doesn't. It's one of the traits which annoy a lot of people when he harps on about going "1-0" -- it's like he's coaching with a relief pitcher's mentality of forget the last game. Sorry, but head coaches should forget the last game maybe in baseball with 161 other games to play. In a season with 12 games, it's kind of hard to forget about 3-4-5 game losing streaks.

I wonder if he believes if he looks in total control he might be able to convince the BOG that he's in total control.
 
I agree that many look too deeply into what he says, but wouldn't you like to see some anger from him? The team keeps losing and generally keeps getting blown out, yet the public persona he gives is one of "everything is going according to plan."

This isn't nitpicking imo. Most coaches show frustrating during losing streaks or after horrible losses. He doesn't. It's one of the traits which annoy a lot of people when he harps on about going "1-0" -- it's like he's coaching with a relief pitcher's mentality of forget the last game. Sorry, but head coaches should forget the last game maybe in baseball with 161 other games to play. In a season with 12 games, it's kind of hard to forget about 3-4-5 game losing streaks.

I wonder if he believes if he looks in total control he might be able to convince the BOG that he's in total control.

But this thread is about what he said after being asked a question about recruiting, not about how the team is playing.

What was he supposed to say?
 
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If this doesn't cry, I'm desperate so I'll mention potential recruits than I don't know what is. He has to know he's gone so he's going to play the " have to keep me because of recruiting pitch".
He is also delusional thinking he's doing good in recruiting.

"I think in recruiting, we're doing very well," Flood said. "I'm really excited about our recruiting class. The recruits have done an excellent job of understanding who we are as a program and not being distracted by any of the other stuff that may be going on around them."

What, exactly, is going on around "them"? They're not the ones disobeying direct orders, lying, sneaking around, and looking clueless on the sidelines. Very odd comment by The Fudd.
 
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Wait...he ACTUALLY said that ("have to keep me...") AND THINKS we're "recruiting well"???

HOLY FREAKIN' WOW and DELUSIONAL!!

Rivals 42nd
247 ( loaded w RU guys who overrate us) 52nd
No he only said the part that is quoted. I said that he seems like he's playing the "Have to keep me because of recruits/recruting" part
 
Totally different. We have a qb who hasn't thrown a td in how many games??? A far cry from a rb situation when we were not getting 0 production.

I think you know that but are trying to argue for the sake of it. If you don't think Flood has cared about himself to the exclusion of the faithful then you're either not seeing it correctly or just don't want to. 6 picks from Nova and 0 td's for 4-5 weeks and you criticize someone who wants to see a back up qb? Good lord.

You caught me. Yes, some of it is wanting to argue but not for 100% just for arguments sake. It's more trying to get people to think about it reasonably. There's so much over the top hatred of Flood that I believe some are blinded by it.

Do you agree or disagree with the following points....

Keeping the class together as much as possible is a good thing for a new hire. Isn't it better to give whoever comes in something to work with rather than having to start from scratch with a month or two before NSD?

He's doing and saying nothing different than anyone would do in the same position. He's got one more game to play so he's putting the best face on it for the team.

No coach should make personnel decisions based on what posters on the internet want and those decisions are not "giving the finger" to fans.

Flood is fighting to keep his job. People want him to say I "give up" and run away. With all that's involved, 99.9% of people would do the same. No one in his position and no one here is going to leave the kind of $ we're talking about on the table.

None of what I said is a reason for nor do I believe Flood should continue as HC as you can see. It's more understanding unemotionally what's going on here.
 
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Do you agree or disagree with the following points....

Keeping the class together as much as possible is a good thing for a new hire. Isn't it better to give whoever comes in something to work with rather than having to start from scratch with a month or two before NSD?

--It is preferable but the overriding necessity is change of hc, regardless of ramifications.

He's doing and saying nothing different than anyone would do in the same position. He's got one more game to play so he's putting the best face on it for the team.

--Somewhat agree. Some of the recent comments are vanilla, but the "Chris is our qb" after woeful performances without time for reflection shows a clear bias or stubbornness, either of which is poison to a program.

No coach should make personnel decisions based on what posters on the internet want and those decisions are not "giving the finger" to fans.

---No coach should make decisions based on a message board. But INTENTIAONALLY outraging the faithful is a cardinal sin for which there should be ramifications. Who do you think supports this endeavor?

Flood is fighting to keep his job. People want him to say I "give up" and run away. With all that's involved, 99.9% of people would do the same. No one in his position and no one here is going to leave the kind of $ we're talking about on the table.

--He can be honorable about it and say we are struggling and I'm trying to find the right results. Instead, he is selling that he is doing it the right way and the true recruits see that. He appears to me to continue to be about himself. An anti Rutgers man if we've encountered one. Shea was putrid as a ceo of fball, but always felt he tried whatever he could and respected the faithful. Flood is just building increasing dislike.[/QUOTE]
 
I agree that many look too deeply into what he says, but wouldn't you like to see some anger from him? The team keeps losing and generally keeps getting blown out, yet the public persona he gives is one of "everything is going according to plan."

This isn't nitpicking imo. Most coaches show frustrating during losing streaks or after horrible losses. He doesn't. It's one of the traits which annoy a lot of people when he harps on about going "1-0" -- it's like he's coaching with a relief pitcher's mentality of forget the last game. Sorry, but head coaches should forget the last game maybe in baseball with 161 other games to play. In a season with 12 games, it's kind of hard to forget about 3-4-5 game losing streaks.

I wonder if he believes if he looks in total control he might be able to convince the BOG that he's in total control.
I guess my way of looking at the situation is very different. What Flood does or doesn't do at this point doesn't matter to me at all. I've moved on. Flood is yesterday's news to me. I'm just waiting for the RU admin to act, which may or may not happen at the end of this season, but will happen eventually.

I would very much like the RU admin to try to find a coaching staff that might actually be able to compete in the Big Ten. It'd be great if they did it right now. But no amount of Flood bashing here on the forum is going to alter the timing or course of events w/respect to Flood.

In the meantime, I find the all-too-human tendency to adopt mob rules with respect to kicking a guy when he's down pretty depressing. Not because I think we should be nice. Screw nice.

It's depressing because it's yet one more example of how easily people devolve when they are in large groups. If I could draw, I'd draw a cartoon of Flood dead on the ground w/our forum members, all teeth and claws, gleefully ripping apart the carcass.

That's what's happening. IMO, it's not a thing to be proud of.
 
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Could be one crowded island, but I like your plan!
I'd stock up on Goslings rum, ginger beer and limes. If I'm going to cut off my nose to spite my face, I figure I might as well be happy while doing it. [laughing]
 
This board has a propensity for reacting in an "Over the Top" manner to something known as "Coach Speak". This has not been limited to the current coach, nor will it stop at the next coach.
 
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If a bunch of people don't renew season tickets they will get the message.
I'm pretty sure the administration has already gotten the message. But despite RU understanding the ugly mood of the fan base, I'm still thinking it's about 60/40 that they will retain Flood for one more season.

I'm sure Julie has people crunching the numbers based, in part, on projections of the impacts of keeping/firing Flood. We'll soon see if that number crunching results in a new coaching staff.
 
It is about 90/10 that they will retain Flood. All the signs point in that direction. A disastrous decision.
 
I don't agree. That's how the games played. But no way such a threat should make us change our course of action. If so, it would confirm everyone's perception that we are a two bit operation. Rutgers has a bunch of lawyers too.

Actually Rutgers AD has no in house lawyers. A friend of mine had conversations about coming on board to fill that void a couple years ago and they could not get a deal done .... I know personally from other dealings with the University that they are missing in house lawyers at many levels and in an effort to save money on outside firms often have non-lawyers try to perform the work that a lawyer would elsewhere (basically everything short of trial work).
 
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