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There is a flip side to this though. If we lose some early season game a ton of the “optimists” here will have meltdowns and suddenly become super pessimists. How quickly the (insane) mood of this board of last February and early March is forgotten. You won’t find Greene doing that.
Here is an example

 
You know there are receipts, right? I did a quick search (took less than 10 seconds). After the St. Bonaventure loss and the SFA win in '19 GRF put us down for at most 3-4 Big Ten wins. Stop making him seem like some level-headed unbiased analyst. It's just schtick. He's like the bb board anti-Rutgers Al with a Bart Torvik infatuation.
I got 2019-20 wrong. I thought losing Eugene would guy the team’s defensive identity. Didn’t see Myles being so effective. Thru that SFA game our defense had been bad supporting my thesis. We turned it around and I was wrong.

Yes I am a quant guy and I think it serves its purpose. Using stats definitely allows you to put things in a analytical POV. When you have a stinker you understand that are 30+ games and you are likely to have a 2 standard deviation bad game and you can move on. When your opponent goes 11-19 from 3 and you feel like we did a good job closing out you can look at the result as an outlier and not a bad coaching job or are players not having heart.
 
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I got 2019-20 wrong. I thought losing Eugene would guy the team’s defensive identity. Didn’t see Myles being so effective. Thru that SFA game our defense had been bad supporting my thesis. We turned it around and I was wrong.

Yes I am a quant guy and I think it serves its purpose. Using stats definitely allows you to put things in a analytical POV. When you have a stinker you understand that are 30+ games and you are likely to have a 2 standard deviation bad game and you can move on. When your opponent goes 11-19 from 3 and you feel like we did a good job closing out you can look at the result as an outlier and not a bad coaching job or are players not having heart.

You can't be a "Quant guy", and have little to no awareness of the players on the team OR the players on our schedule or around the B1G.

Common sense would be that if Bart was always right, then someone would take their projections at the start of every season and compare them to the actual results.......the reasons why Bart doesn't ultimately work, is because it ultimately has no idea on what to evaluate with new players replacing existing players.
 
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There is a flip side to this though. If we lose some early season game a ton of the “optimists” here will have meltdowns and suddenly become super pessimists. How quickly the (insane) mood of this board of last February and early March is forgotten. You won’t find Greene doing that.

Except that behavioral impulsivity (i.e. meltdown) and emotions (positive/negative) are two different things that come from 2 different areas of the brain and are not mutually exclusive. Impulsivity is controlled by the frontal cortex and emotions are driven by the limbic system.

In other words, you are making an assumption that only optimists can have impulsive meltdowns, when in fact pessimists can also equally have impulsive meltdowns. GRIF is certainly not the meltdown type on this board but then again, neither am I - even though he is looking at RU with pessimism and I am looking at the same team with optimism.
 
You can't be a "Quant guy", and have little to no awareness of the players on the team OR the players on our schedule or around the B1G.

Common sense would be that if Bart was always right, then someone would take their projections at the start of every season and compare them to the actual results.......the reasons why Bart doesn't ultimately work, is because it ultimately has no idea on what to evaluate with new players replacing existing players.
There is zero doubt that trusting bart or ken solely for preseason results is silly for the reasons you outline. I am looking at bart and it says Jaden Jones will be a 10% OREB (highly doubt he will be an elite offensive rebounder) and a 0% DREB (I trust he will get a DREB this season).

When trying to gauge how we will be in the preseason we are flooded with the good without the bad. We know Jones is knocking down shots in practice. The team gets along. Cliff will improve. Caleb is healthy. We aren't getting any bad because you never do in preseason because there are no losses. We don't know if our star player has hit the weight room and is in shape.

When a look at numbers I can see every returning player on the roster except Paul had bad shooting season. Ron and Geo lifetime shooting numbers aren't good. We will be an improved FT shooting team, but stats say based on the past these guys aren't getting to the line.

The real reason for my lack of optimism has nothing to do with bart. I am worried about defense and am concerned with what I saw out of our captains last year from an effort standpoint. I am not willing to take a leap of faith that says Jacob is gone things will be better.
 
You can't be a "Quant guy", and have little to no awareness of the players on the team OR the players on our schedule or around the B1G.

Common sense would be that if Bart was always right, then someone would take their projections at the start of every season and compare them to the actual results.......the reasons why Bart doesn't ultimately work, is because it ultimately has no idea on what to evaluate with new players replacing existing players.

I would think that a true "Quant Guy" would search out all data points, not just the ones that confirm his or her bias. The predictive college sports computer models generally take past performance as an indicator of projected future outcomes. Logic would dictate that early season models would have gaps - since the starting point would not take into account season to season changes in personnel, scheduling & coaching etc. As the season goes forward the algorithms will generally become more accurate - however note that there will always be a component of bias based on the guesswork involved as a starting point.
 
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I would think that a true "Quant Guy" would search out all data points, not just the ones that confirm his or her bias. The predictive college sports computer models generally take past performance as an indicator of projected future outcomes. Logic would dictate that early season models would have gaps - since the starting point would not take into account season to season changes in personnel, scheduling & coaching etc. As the season goes forward the algorithms will generally become more accurate - however note that there will always be a component of bias based on the guesswork involved as a starting point.
I use Bart and ken as reference only. The preseason model is extremely flawed as we know.

My real thinking is in line with how flux does it. As I said I have no clue about all the new parts. I think in term of probabilities of many outcomes occurring.

no one wants to see my bear case….it has very little to do with what ken or Bart says. It uses analysis more in line with NJH talks about.
 
That was an amazing night with PSU defeating WVU before our game everyone knew a win against Temple and we would host the championship game. And thus "Back To The RAC!" Was born.
I was at that press conference when Chaney melted down. It was so intense in the press room no one said anything as Chaney ranted like a possessed lunatic. He was livid about the lane violation call on Mark Macon. I wanted to point out that it was the right call but I was afraid for my life and said nothing. Lol I don't recall any reporter asking Chaney a single question. Too afraid.
I really liked John Chaney and he was great for temple and the a-10. But let’s be honest , he got away with a lot of crap that 99 % of other coaches wouldn’t have.
 
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There is zero doubt that trusting bart or ken solely for preseason results is silly for the reasons you outline. I am looking at bart and it says Jaden Jones will be a 10% OREB (highly doubt he will be an elite offensive rebounder) and a 0% DREB (I trust he will get a DREB this season).

When trying to gauge how we will be in the preseason we are flooded with the good without the bad. We know Jones is knocking down shots in practice. The team gets along. Cliff will improve. Caleb is healthy. We aren't getting any bad because you never do in preseason because there are no losses. We don't know if our star player has hit the weight room and is in shape.

When a look at numbers I can see every returning player on the roster except Paul had bad shooting season. Ron and Geo lifetime shooting numbers aren't good. We will be an improved FT shooting team, but stats say based on the past these guys aren't getting to the line.

The real reason for my lack of optimism has nothing to do with bart. I am worried about defense and am concerned with what I saw out of our captains last year from an effort standpoint. I am not willing to take a leap of faith that says Jacob is gone things will be better.

This post is a case in point of your selective reasoning.
  • Good/Bad input. The measure should not be lack of "bad" comments. Rather is should be input from outside or neutral observers who in the past have not previously provided "good" input. The formula might be zero "good" comments compared to a plus level of good comments from outsiders = a more positive outlook.
  • Defense - you noticeably are not taking into account the overall history, trending and efficiency of RU's Team defense under Pike (thus minimizing Pike's impact as a defensive focused coach) and placing a high level of focus on Young - who while a very good perimeter man on defender - was not the best team defender.....something stressed by Pike overall.
  • Shooting Efficiency - while the points on Geo and Ron are valid, you are not factoring in injuries (McConnell) or projected slope of growth from freshman to sophomore years as well as new roster/transfer players?
 
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This post is a case in point of your selective reasoning.
  • Good/Bad input. The measure should not be lack of "bad" comments. Rather is should be input from outside or neutral observers who in the past have not previously provided "good" input. The formula might be zero "good" comments compared to a plus level of good comments from outsiders = a more positive outlook.
  • Defense - you noticeably are not taking into account the overall history, trending and efficiency of RU's Team defense under Pike (thus minimizing Pike's impact as a defensive focused coach) and placing a high level of focus on Young - who while a very good perimeter man on defender - was not the best team defender.....something stressed by Pike overall.
  • Shooting Efficiency - while the points on Geo and Ron are valid, you are not factoring in injuries (McConnell) or projected slope of growth from freshman to sophomore years as well as new roster/transfer players?

Exactly. Garbage in/garbage out.

You can't rely on stats from season to season in college basketball. Too many factors like player growth, player turnover and chemistry play a huge role and are impossible to quantify.
 
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I would be villified if I posted my concerns. I have hinted at them.

Yes Pike's teams have played good defense. Only exception would be 2018-19. Coincidentally that was the year Eugene was hurt and came back and played hurt.
 
Exactly. Garbage in/garbage out.

You can't rely on stats from season to season in college basketball. Too many factors like player growth, player turnover and chemistry play a huge role and are impossible to quantify.
I don't rely on stats, I use them for the reasons you have said.
 
I don't rely on stats, I use them for the reasons you have said.

Fine, but I have never seen you factoring in players improving. You completely whiffed on Eugene despite all the evidence showing a very raw player working his but off to get better. That's why he is in the NBA. Watching his first game at Oregon I knew he had a chance.

Also, how can you doubt the defense of a pike coached team? He has clearly shown he can coach defense. Doubting our offense makes sense, but not the defense. He coaches defense depending on the personnel. No rim defender? He will emphasize team defense. Expect the same with rebounding. Myles was great for us, but he is replaceable. This team is big and fast and if they get up and down the floor like they can they are going to wear a lot of teams down.

The size, athletic ability and experience of this team could do some real damage if they all buy in. Pike has never had this many tools to work with. Let's hope he can keep them all on the same page and unselfish through the season.
 
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There is zero doubt that trusting bart or ken solely for preseason results is silly for the reasons you outline. I am looking at bart and it says Jaden Jones will be a 10% OREB (highly doubt he will be an elite offensive rebounder) and a 0% DREB (I trust he will get a DREB this season).

When trying to gauge how we will be in the preseason we are flooded with the good without the bad. We know Jones is knocking down shots in practice. The team gets along. Cliff will improve. Caleb is healthy. We aren't getting any bad because you never do in preseason because there are no losses. We don't know if our star player has hit the weight room and is in shape.

When a look at numbers I can see every returning player on the roster except Paul had bad shooting season. Ron and Geo lifetime shooting numbers aren't good. We will be an improved FT shooting team, but stats say based on the past these guys aren't getting to the line.

The real reason for my lack of optimism has nothing to do with bart. I am worried about defense and am concerned with what I saw out of our captains last year from an effort standpoint. I am not willing to take a leap of faith that says Jacob is gone things will be better.

There are no stats or analysis that says Jacob Young and his high turnover level is not mentioned, but his defense is.....

And that Jalen Miller has been thriving as a dedicated defense-first player who will probably do 75 to 80% (conservative estimate) of what Young did on defense and likely not have 4 and 5 turnover games.

I just don't quite understand that if a team is expected to be a better FT shooter by subtracting Myles Johnson and Montez Mathis and replaces that with Aundre Hyatt and Jaden Jones, how there won't be an increase in FT% made.

And at the same time, I only hear about Myles on Defense, when he was extremely limited as a scorer, solely reliant on being a back to the basket player or only able to score on lobs and put backs.

No one is highlighting just the positive aspects, what you are doing are ignoring the negative or weaknesses of the departing players as if those items didn't exist or RU cannot offset those positive items.

It is a team sport and how can you State Geo and RHJ are not positive impact players or "didn't do enough", but every game plan starts and ends with the opponent's goal, to slow down Geo Baker and certainly RHJ.

Without being offensive, but I would logically think that if an opponent's goals are to stop RHJ and Baker, that Myles Johnson and Jacob Young are not or were never "focus points" of an opponent's game plan on defense.

If I use that logic, the production and stats or "eye test", will have you believe Myles, Jacob and others that are 3rd, 4th or 5th options on the court, are most important.

Jacob, Myles and Mathis thrives because of their role as 3rd, 4th or 5th options on the floor.....there is no reason that Jaden Jones, Aundre Hyatt (Caleb McConnell) or Cliff Omoyuri, can't thrive in a 3rd, 4th or 5th options.....or Jalen Miller, Paul Mulcahy or Ralph Agee.

The key of a good, quality team is never based on what a teams top 2 players produce.....an actual good team can beat an opponent as long as the players 3, 4, 5 through 8 or 9, are in a pool of players that are similar in talent, skill or abilities to play within a role.

Where does RU go to win games if Baker isn't hitting shots or RHJ is off?? Is that team doomed to lose?? NO.....

Very strange times indeed.....the reasons why Purdue, Michigan or Ohio State or Michigan State, Maryland are able to sustain success, is by player development.....you have to ensure your 5th, through 8th/9th players have gotten better and can eventually grow into a 4th best role in a year or two.
 
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Also, how can you doubt the defense of a pike coached team? He has clearly shown he can coach defense. Doubting our offense makes sense, but not the defense. He coaches defense depending on the personnel. No rim defender? He will emphasize team defense. Expect the same with rebounding. Myles was great for us, but he is replaceable. This team is big and fast and if they get up and down the floor like they can they are going to wear a lot of teams down.

Pike is also a very loyal person, almost to a fault. We saw in Year 2 how long he kept playing his captain and senior Freeman. It took 2/3 through the season where he finally took him out of the lineup and reduced his minutes.

The team is very long which will help defensively. The returning guys are far from fast and are below average from a lateral quickness perspective. That can be made up with length and desire.
 
NJH,

Last year the season started with Geo in total control off the offense and ended with Jacob Young in total control of the offense. Did Jacob blackmail Pike or did Pike choose to give the keys to the offense to Jacob?

We know FT% will increase. Will FT made increase? Will offensive efficiency increase? (I hope so)

You are not giving Myles enough credit offensively. Yes he had some deficiencies, but he had good hands and was a good passer. He wasn't a liability offensively in my eyes.

The game plan last year was not to slow down Geo Baker, that is just silly.

The bull case for the season is Ron and Geo being engaged on both ends of the floor making shots. It is everyone getting along. Geo obviously didn't get along with Jacob last year and Eugene two year before that.

I do think we are better offensively if Hyatt is better than what numbers say and Jones is the 1st guy we have seen under Pike that can actually come off a screen and catch and shoot and make a defense pay for being a 1/2 second late.

I hated our offense last year with Jacob, unfortunately it was out of necessity because the other guys on the roster couldn't get it done offensively. Jacob had to be on the floor because he was the heart beat defensively.

I am making the assumption that Cliff develops significantly on both sides.
 
Except that behavioral impulsivity (i.e. meltdown) and emotions (positive/negative) are two different things that come from 2 different areas of the brain and are not mutually exclusive. Impulsivity is controlled by the frontal cortex and emotions are driven by the limbic system.

In other words, you are making an assumption that only optimists can have impulsive meltdowns, when in fact pessimists can also equally have impulsive meltdowns. GRIF is certainly not the meltdown type on this board but then again, neither am I - even though he is looking at RU with pessimism and I am looking at the same team with optimism.
Meh, you are way over analyzing what I am saying IMO. Impulsivity aside, people tend to get angry when expectations are unmet. And when people’s expectations are too high they are very likely to be unmet.
 
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Compared to some of the jackholes in sports broadcasting whose principal qualification seem to be having an annoying personality Hoops is a basketball savant with plenty of time in grade. Sure it's an opinion - but a better informed one than nearly everyone that is paid to comment on college basketball.
 
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That was an amazing night with PSU defeating WVU before our game everyone knew a win against Temple and we would host the championship game. And thus "Back To The RAC!" Was born.
I was at that press conference when Chaney melted down. It was so intense in the press room no one said anything as Chaney ranted like a possessed lunatic. He was livid about the lane violation call on Mark Macon. I wanted to point out that it was the right call but I was afraid for my life and said nothing. Lol I don't recall any reporter asking Chaney a single question. Too afraid.
Sorry but @bac2therac is way older than that..
😂
 
Meh, you are way over analyzing what I am saying IMO. Impulsivity aside, people tend to get angry when expectations are unmet. And when people’s expectations are too high they are very likely to be unmet.

Maybe you can point out all the psycho angry optimists on this board because I must be missing them.
 
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NJH,

Last year the season started with Geo in total control off the offense and ended with Jacob Young in total control of the offense. Did Jacob blackmail Pike or did Pike choose to give the keys to the offense to Jacob?
Last season started with Geo twisting his ankle and missing the next three games, how was he in total control of the offense?
 
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He was the starting PG to start the year and Jacob ended the year at PG

He was the starting PG for 9 minutes of the first game until his injury.... then missed the next 3, and came off the bench for the next 3. He wasn't a full game starter until the 8th game of the year.

Young was a starter for every one of the games Baker was out, and then lost his starting job to McConnell for 7 games starting with Game 14. He came back to replace McConnell for senior night and through the rest of the season.
 
5th yr Geo > 4th yr Geo
4th RHJ > 3rd yr RHJ
2nd yr Cliff's ceiling > 4th yr Myles
4th Caleb vs 3rd yr Mathis, < first 8 '20-21, > last 20 games '20-21
3rd yr Paul vs 5th year Jacob has yet been to be determined, not sure he will score more than Jacob but he will facilitate the ball more, have less TOs and more efficient from minute 1-40 than Jacob who turned it on and off during a 40 minute game.
Overall the starters are better this year.

Will 2nd yr Jaden Jones, 4th yr Aundre Hyatt and 5th yr Ralph Agee-Gonzales be better than 2nd yr Paul, 3rd yr Caleb, 1st year Cliff as option 6-8? Will we get more from Mag, Reiber, Miller, and Palmquist this year than the less than 100 possessions from last years 9-12 Douc, Mag, Reiber, Palmquist? I think YES to both.

I'm optimistic in year 6 under Pike, Rutgers will have their best conference record this year than the 11-9 in 19-20 and 10-10 in 20-21, and should go 10-1 or 11-0 OOC.
 
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Are you being intentionally dumb? They aren't angry now

Lol......Of course they're not angry now.....but you would be hard pressed to identify them even after a tough loss. Your point (which is trying to paint optimists as angry when things turn bad) is pretty stupid. You seem to refuse to see that overreaction comes down to who's rational and who's not rational.... regardless of optimism or pessimism.
 
He was the starting PG for 9 minutes of the first game until his injury.... then missed the next 3, and came off the bench for the next 3. He wasn't a full game starter until the 8th game of the year.

Young was a starter for every one of the games Baker was out, and then lost his starting job to McConnell for 7 games starting with Game 14. He came back to replace McConnell for senior night and through the rest of the season.

Apparently the quant guy left out some facts that would make his position weaker.
 
Lol......Of course they're not angry now.....but you would be hard pressed to identify them even after a tough loss. Your point (which is trying to paint optimists as angry when things turn bad) is pretty stupid. You seem to refuse to see that overreaction comes down to who's rational and who's not rational.... regardless of optimism or pessimism.
I’m not trying to paint a class of people (optimists) as anything. I’m saying that when expectations are too high there is a high chance of anger when those expectations are likely not met. Furthermore, I believe expectations on this board are currently too high.

I think it’s very likely we are a bubble team and we either squeak into the tournament or barely miss it and then a bunch of people are calling for Pike’s head because everyone thought we would go 25-6.

(yes, this is an exaggeration)
 
I’m not trying to paint a class of people (optimists) as anything. I’m saying that when expectations are too high there is a high chance of anger when those expectations are likely not met. Furthermore, I believe expectations on this board are currently too high.

I think it’s very likely we are a bubble team and we either squeak into the tournament or barely miss it and then a bunch of people are calling for Pike’s head because everyone thought we would go 25-6.

(yes, this is an exaggeration)

Maybe. But Pike certainly hasn’t done anything to downplay expectations. Quite the opposite actually with all the talk of this being his best team and such.
 
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Apparently the quant guy left out some facts that would make his position weaker.
Baker lost his starting PG role. That is fact. If you want to argue his performance was hampered because of injury that is fine. All one has to do is watch any of the last 10 games. Jacob Young was the primary ball handler and the ball was in his hands more than anyone else.

Steve Pikiell thought despite having Geo Baker on the team it was better for the ball to be in Jacob’s hands on most possessions.
 
Baker lost his starting PG role. That is fact. If you want to argue his performance was hampered because of injury that is fine. All one has to do is watch any of the last 10 games. Jacob Young was the primary ball handler and the ball was in his hands more than anyone else.

Steve Pikiell thought despite having Geo Baker on the team it was better for the ball to be in Jacob’s hands on most possessions.
Each group of players has a different set of strengths and weaknesses. Geo has shown he is willing to play the role that best suits the group. He also played the whole season injured and may have had long covid as well. This hurt his NBA chances because he was never able to play at his best. He was willing to make this sacrifice because he judged he could still help the team even if not at his best. Many players would not have made that sacrifice, they would have waited until they were fully healed before coming back.
 
Each group of players has a different set of strengths and weaknesses. Geo has shown he is willing to play the role that best suits the group. He also played the whole season injured and may have had long covid as well. This hurt his NBA chances because he was never able to play at his best. He was willing to make this sacrifice because he judged he could still help the team even if not at his best. Many players would not have made that sacrifice, they would have waited until they were fully healed before coming back.
It would be phenomenal if there was a few extra pep in his step and if what you describe was a major factor, a reason, in his play last year. I think this team desperately needs a scorer, a very steady ball handler, and an adequate defender. No doubt, even last year if he wasn’t healthy, he was still clutch.
 
Baker lost his starting PG role. That is fact. If you want to argue his performance was hampered because of injury that is fine. All one has to do is watch any of the last 10 games. Jacob Young was the primary ball handler and the ball was in his hands more than anyone else.

Steve Pikiell thought despite having Geo Baker on the team it was better for the ball to be in Jacob’s hands on most possessions.

Wait, what?

Baker started the first game, then was injured and missed 3 games. Is that "losing" his starting role?

He then came back into the lineup off the bench off an injury.... is that "losing" his starting role, or is that easing a player back into the lineup?

The only people who "lost" their starting role last year were Young and Mathis (who were replaced by Mulcahy/McConnell from 1/24 to 2/21 (we went 5-4 over this stretch).... after which Young got his spot back, and Mathis didn't) and Omoruyi (who went down with injury for 5 games, and never won back his starting spot)

Baker certainly didn't lose his starting spot to Young, who was a starter all along. His starting spot was taken by Mulcahy, who then went back to a reserve role until Young/Mathis lost their starting spots and he rejoined the starting lineup.
 
Baker lost his starting PG role. That is fact. If you want to argue his performance was hampered because of injury that is fine. All one has to do is watch any of the last 10 games. Jacob Young was the primary ball handler and the ball was in his hands more than anyone else.

Steve Pikiell thought despite having Geo Baker on the team it was better for the ball to be in Jacob’s hands on most possessions.

As for the "primary ball handler" duties, I'd imagine Baker will also play off ball a lot with Mulcahy/Miller as the primary ball handler this coming year. He was moved to PG as a soph because we had no one else.

Young and Mulcahy came in during Baker's junior year, both expected to carry part of the load as the primary ball handler... but Mulcahy wasn't ready as a true freshman to contribute offensively (though he was 2nd on the team in assists in just 18 min, and 1st in Ast/TOV ratio), and Young was our only guard with more turnovers than assists.

During Baker's 4th year, Young scored more but also finally stepped into more of a distributor role as a 5th year senior, making more assists but keeping the same # of turnovers per minute played, while Mulcahy still hasn't really found his offense.

As far as who Pike wanted to have the ball in their hands in the second half of the year, take a look at the ends of close games. From the time Young lost his starting job on 1/24 through our exit from the tournament, we had 6 games that were in single digits with 5 minutes left [Indiana (H), Minnesota (H), Minnesota (A), Indiana (N), Clemson (N), Houston (N)]

Points:
16 - Baker
11 - McConnell
10 - Johnson
9 - Harper
6 - Young
2 - Mulcahy

FG/FGA:
6/14 - Baker
4/7 - McConnell
1/7 - Harper
4/6 - Johnson
1/6 - Young
1/3 - Mulcahy

FT/FTA:
7/11 - Harper
4/6 - Young
3/4 - Baker
2/5 - Johnson
2/2 - McConnell, Mulcahy
 
Dick Weiss is so last century … but that said, it doesn’t change the fact that RU should be good. Just not because he thinks so.
 
Wait, what?

Baker started the first game, then was injured and missed 3 games. Is that "losing" his starting role?

He then came back into the lineup off the bench off an injury.... is that "losing" his starting role, or is that easing a player back into the lineup?

The only people who "lost" their starting role last year were Young and Mathis (who were replaced by Mulcahy/McConnell from 1/24 to 2/21 (we went 5-4 over this stretch).... after which Young got his spot back, and Mathis didn't) and Omoruyi (who went down with injury for 5 games, and never won back his starting spot)

Baker certainly didn't lose his starting spot to Young, who was a starter all along. His starting spot was taken by Mulcahy, who then went back to a reserve role until Young/Mathis lost their starting spots and he rejoined the starting lineup.
Omoruyi didn’t win his starting spot back because he never “won” it in the first place. He only started because Johnson couldn’t seem to play the first 5 minutes of any game without committing a silly personal foul. In his four years here, he couldn’t master setting a screen without moving either.
 
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