Dick Weiss on this year's team
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How much of that was dunks on alley oops? (Which dried up against tougher competition)
I always thought he would improve his post game, but it never really materialized.
He was not much help in the half court offense, as his inability to shoot made our pick and roll game — a staple of Pike’s offense — ineffective.
His best attribute on offense was his offensive rebounding/ability to keep the ball alive on the glass. THAT will surely be missed.
Johnson had 32 made dunks last year (per bart), so removing those would make him 66/120 (55%) on all attempts that were not made dunks.
Myles was blessed with a very large wing span that made him a very easy target in both the high and low post. He was a very willing passer.
Yes his low post game needed work. Yes his high percentage was because of dunks. Dunks are pretty good shots to try and get. Possessions where he touch the ball definitely resulted in more scoring compared to the ones he didn’t get touches.
to add to your point….offensive rebounding was definite a positive for Myles. I would classify offensive rebounding as a very important part of a half court offense. 1 out of every 7 misses RU had while Myles was on the floor in his career Myles got the rebound and gave us another chance in the possession.
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I wonder if anybody has a statistic like this. I would be interested to know if this is an accurate statement.
By the way, I’m one who believes that Myles should have posted up more, but it became a rarity, probably because of his woeful FT %.
Disirregardless (as an old law school professor of mine used to jokingly say), it will be very interesting to see whether our half court offense becomes more efficient because Cliff is more of a threat to shoot, thereby creating better spacing for everyone else.
Our 2020-21 offense worked better with Johnson on the floor, but our 2021-22 offense will be forced to be different because he's no longer there. I think that's a good thing, tbh.
Our last-year-scheme needed him, and there was a clear dropoff when he wasn't on the floor. Our this-year-scheme will be built differently around Omoruyi's skillset, and hopefully it opens things up more.
Johnson had two glaring gaps in his game: FTs and shots more than 5 feet from the basket. Omoruyi shares the first, but not the second. Just being able to step 5-10 feet out and knock down jumpers will change our primary offensive philosophy - giving another scoring option in the midrange, but also more space under the basket for others to get to the rim. Omoruyi will also be more of a scoring threat at the top of the key during our sets, which creates a new wrinkle and puts more pressure on the defense to defend.
As a backup, Agee can also hit shots further from the basket - so the offense won't need to change too much when Omoruyi steps off the floor, whereas in our last-year-scheme Omoruyi was largely subbing into an offense where the center wasn't asked to look for his shot away from the rim.
Well said, but I *believe* Cliff will end up being a solid FT shooter, as his form is just way better than Myles' form. I just think he was green last year and didn't have enough of a sample size.
This is funny. A triple negative? Or, a double negative negatively negated? LOL!
Disirregardless is funny but you definitely made it even funnier.
I'd sign up for that right now. I am not sure how you can make that statement regarding Cliff but if it ends up being true that's fantastic.
AS for the talk about Myles in other posts... if I were UCLA I'd get him the ball very early in his rotations.. I think each time he is out there he tires quickly.. so I'd sub him out often, get him lots of "blows" and feed him when he gets into the game and less so near his time to come out. IE.. keep him fresh as possible.
Cliff will not have that issue.. based on all the reports of his freakish physical skills. But that's also why I think he'll need another year to surpass Myles. This year he has to learn to use feet first on defense and not reach. When Myles reached it was because of tiredness.. imo. When Cliff did it last year I chalked it up to inexperience and having been so dominant on the HS level where he could get away with it.. reaching without contact.
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I know you've watched this team for a really long time, so I have a hard time believing you truly believe that in the context of what we can see offensively from the 5 spot in college basketball. phew that was a long sentence
Myles was -at times- a liability on offense. For example, his low post game was pretty weak. I ember him trying to post up on the tourney and turning it over. And I didnt want him trying to post up because getting fouled just gave the ball back to the other team. His offense just want dependable.
