Obviously if EJ cannot recruit Big Ten talent he should not be retained. He should get another year.
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Obviously if EJ cannot recruit Big Ten talent he should not be retained. He should get another year.
Sanders gave himself a missed ally oop. He hung on the rim for a good 10 seconds laughing. We need accountability even if he is the only one scoring 100 pts by himself.
There was no one else tonight. Not Mike, not Grier, not Daniels. If Corey was not aggressive offensively we might have scored 30.
However, I did not like his defense or lack of it. He went for steals 3-5 times and missed and his man got baskets. That has to stop. He has to rebound more like all the guards. But someone has to start making some shots.
It's the coaches job to get the best out of the players. Eddie is failing. They are not playing hard..no way they can be THAT bad. All on coaching. I
They are that bad with what is left and you can blame Eddie for bad recruiting failure after year 1 but year 2 you got Sanders, Laurent, Freeman and Nigel the transfer sitting out. So the talent will be better but needs to get even better to compete in this conference.
If you think Goode or Lewis would be playing anywhere else in the conference or even in a power league , I will sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.
Grier gave us a couple of games hitting 3's but when he isn't , he doesn't play great defense, doesn't rebound nor is he a good passer. He was a role player at Bradley before he transferred here.
Daniels has talent but for a 2 guard he cannot shoot . When he drives hard he is good but even then he misses too many layups. He doesn't play good defense or rebound enough for his talent. Maybe you can put that on Eddie but he has nothing to threaten him with without the rest of the roster.
That brings us to Williams and Foreman , the 2 sophomores that are bench Big 10 players. Their problem is their inconsistency. Williams goes for 20 for 2 games and 2 and 4 points in back to back games. DJ has some moves but is limited defensively .
So that is the roster! So let's hear it genius . How do you get the best out of this roster?
He might resign. But that would just be terminology. He's not walking away from millions.
Yes he did and did a lousy job. I cannot argue the roster on the court tonight was so bad and Eddie deserves blame. But he didn't think he would have this roster
He used scholarships on players that can't play at this level - this makes the injuries he has totally unmanageable, by forcing them to play.
Relax...never considered myself a genious. Any novice basketball mind can tell how terrible of a team we have.
If you're making the excuse we have no depth..that's his fault too, no?? He's been given more than enough time to be successful..and the programs going down hill.
No excuses.
Partially true. Grg makes a good point, he lost both Johnsons and we are left with Grier. A definite fail and on Eddie. Took a chance on Goode a good practice shooter but cannot get open in games and is too timid. A definite fail on Eddie.
Partially false . He couldn't have predicted he would be without all 3 of his big men. The players left have to play unless you want to play 3 walk ons.
You call the lack of depth an excuse and reality is the injuries are why there is no depth. He couldn't have predicted all the injuries in the front court. So no not his fault.
About Eddie being giving enough time , your delusional. He was hired late without an Ad and got Etou. A Big 10 talent that sulks because Mack and Jack get most of the shots and he transfers. Year 2 is his failure because Mike and DJ have been too inconsistent but would be fine as bench players and depth , Doorson was a project but we needed height and he is hurt and out this year. Year 3 he gets Sanders, Freeman, Grier and Nigel , who is sitting out. Sanders, Freeman and Nigel are big 10 players either starters or bench players getting meaningful minutes. Needs to recruit better players that can shoot, are tough and make basketball plays to be successful. If he cannot recruit he will be gone.
If? He has 1 lowly recruited guard for next year. The writing is on the wall.
To me though, his coaching is more of a concern than recruiting. His team's are woefully unprepared and don't have any direction.
To me though, his coaching is more of a concern than recruiting. His team's are woefully unprepared and don't have any direction.
Some RU fans accept losing. This poster seems to relish it.
We already know "if" Eddie can recruit. And he can't.
And Daniels with that talent takes ball to basket vs the 7 footer and shot is blocked. His BB IQ is hideous. And I mentioned this in another thread: what kind of weight training program do we have? Foreman should be bigger than he is now. He guarded the 7 footer yesterday. Would be nice if he had 20 more lbs on his body. And like Patrick always says we do not shoot the ball well.
Stop with the excuses. .we have evidence he cannot recruit..you agree with everyone but your ties to Eddie or his era makes you feel guilty that he needs to get another year..we just need to move on. Nothing personal against Eddie. He is loved as a person and player here but this is just not happening here
I go out on a chilly January night to watch a college basketball game between Rutgers and Purdue.During warm ups it was readily apparent that this was going to be a mismatch because of the size disparity.The ensuing results proved the point as Purdue had 63 rebounds many of which happened after their missed shots.It was so bad that Purdue fans sitting in my area were rooting for missed shots just to watch the rebounding number mount .
As to scoring Purdue had 107 points and clearly could have reached at least 120 if the starters played more minutes.Rutgers has now allowed 201 points in the last two games and far more pain will be absorbed against Iowa on Thursday.This should not be viewed as a laughing matter but rather a admission that Rutgers has no business playing in the B1G for the remainder of the season.What is the point other than to count the number of successive losses and the point differential in games.
I didn't see any Rutgers administrator at the game which to me is just another sign of indifference.Embarrassing losses at home are now accepted as the norm for the mens basketball program.
What is it going to take to end this utter futility?
As to scoring Purdue had 107 points and clearly could have reached at least 120 if the starters played more minutes.Rutgers has now allowed 201 points in the last two games and far more pain will be absorbed against Iowa on Thursday.This should not be viewed as a laughing matter but rather a admission that Rutgers has no business playing in the B1G for the remainder of the season.What is the point other than to count the number of successive losses and the point differential in games.
I didn't see any Rutgers administrator at the game which to me is just another sign of indifference.Embarrassing losses at home are now accepted as the norm for the mens basketball program.
What is it going to take to end this utter futility?
IF he cannot recruit??? He hasn't shown he can yet.
And enough with the injury excuse. We weren't good in the beginning of the season either with a healthier roster.
I don't relish losing you asshat. I have been watching Ru basketball for 40 years and there has been plenty of terrible coaching I have witnessed. But when a roster is depleted and whenyou put the guys who tried hard last night on the court, it is obvious to anyone we are overmatched. No amount of coaching would have won last night and maybe, just maybe with someone else coaching we would have lost by 40-45. That is reality !! Unfortunate and disappointing but reality. Try to get your brain to understand that point.
We can agree to disagree. I respect your opinion that Eddie doesn't deserve another year. I on the other hand, think the depleted roster makes it impossible to judge him and I unlike you think that team with Sanders and Nigel as guards, with Mike off the bench, and Laurent , Freeman, and Doorson up front, with DJ and Diallo off the bench and Goode only being put in for a few minutes when the other team is playing zone,would be a competitive team that can win !!! That is my opinion that you do not share. I get it. Now let's support the team.
Eddie deserves another year, but if finances support, he shouldn't get it.
We can all blame the Rice fiasco, but it was the Louisville score that damaged recruiting more than anything.
As these score pile up Jordan really has no chance of recruiting. How can a kid commit to a school that is losing games 40+ routinely. It shows we aren't even remotely close.
The reality could be next year we will be much better, but the current results don't allow the thought process to get that far.
How can anyone believe in the abilities of Shaq and Diallo? We have no proof these guys can play at this level or stay healthy, and right now they are only size next year, otherwise we will be playing Foreman and Freeman up front against big ten size once again.... It falls on the staffs inability to recruit depth and size
for those who want to keep Jordan, what are you afraid of if we get rid of him. The program is already at rock bottom. I cannot get worse. Recruiting and player development has been poor. Obviously our strength and conditioning program is suspect. If you are optimistic that next year would be better, then with a new coach with college experience it should be as good as if Jordan were here. Its not like we are going to miss out on some brilliant coaching scheme and system.
RU will be better next year, they cant be any worse, extra bodies help but do you think winning 12 games over 6 means Eddie is moving this in the right direction. No one has still answered the recruiting issue and that you have to fire or extend this year
RU will be better next year, they cant be any worse, extra bodies help but do you think winning 12 games over 6 means Eddie is moving this in the right direction. No one has still answered the recruiting issue and that you have to fire or extend this year
because a few are buying into them being saviors..we saw very little from Diallo this year than would indicate h would do more than provide fouls and minutes. Doorson didn't show much last year. Too much projecting as usual by overly optimistic people just like they did for this season
His coaching sucked with a full roster. Your logic makes no sense.
Another unfair Daniels bashing post. Three rebounds, three assists and only two turnovers and his basketball IQ is hideous? Shame on that post.
OK, ease up, we're all frustrated with this season.
I didn't see your comments in the other thread about Foreman.
However, their Strength and Conditioning Coach is probably the only person from Eddie's staff that needs to be retained.
Rich Dalatri was an NBA S&C coach for 25 years with the Nets and Cavaliers, and the couple years gap when he wasn't in the NBA he was hired by an Italian League team because he left the Nets because they wouldn't give him a proper raise.
He is legit - the only truly legit "next level" member of Eddie's staff.
Despite his connection to Eddie via the Nets, he should be seriously considered by the next staff.
He is the first dedicated S&C for MBB that I can recall and is renowned in such circles.
That being stated, you can't make a growing boy into an NBA body overnight, especially if his genetics aren't there - or there yet.
Exactly
After two and a half years, the strength or weakness of the roster is on the head coach.
It's time for a change.
I actually thought Daniels (and DJ) were the ONLY players hustling and playing hard for the first part of last night. He did make that one poor decision but he was getting after it. Then I think he saw the rest of the team playing so weak he just got frustrated and backed off while they started to go the my turn route. Only guy getting up off his feet. Rest of the team wearing cement shoes. (now I know why Lewis wasn't jumping)
But also how can a guy in year 5 still be so off square when taking that mid-range jump shot. And why has he not been coached into a better shooting position? (or is he just not capable of change).
The Eddie shills blame injuries and a depleted roster for the teams performance, not the coaching.
But it was Eddie the HC who recruited these players. How is he not responsible for the product on the floor ?
We can believe our lying eyes or the Eddie shills about whether he should be retained after this season.
Seeing is believing. And wait till we see what happens when Iowa visits the RAC on Thursday. Keep the women and children away from the TV that night.
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