Terry Shea was hired 20 years ago. For your scenario to happen, everyone under 35 would have to stop coming. And what's left is a quarter full stadium of 50-80 year olds. Not exactly the recipe for an exciting CFB atmosphere.
Do any of you know Maureen Casey ? RE. Black Lot
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Terry Shea was hired 20 years ago. For your scenario to happen, everyone under 35 would have to stop coming. And what's left is a quarter full stadium of 50-80 year olds. Not exactly the recipe for an exciting CFB atmosphere.
Dear Maureen,
I like going to the movies. I'd like to pay $2.00 to watch a first release like I could 40 years ago. I'm thinking of writing a post on Facebook complaining about the nerve of the motion picture industry to charge me $12 a ticket and also soak me for the pop corn and lemonade.
Can you help me compose my complaint?
Sincerely,
Rip Van Winkle
I like going to the movies. I'd like to pay $2.00 to watch a first release like I could 40 years ago. I'm thinking of writing a post on Facebook complaining about the nerve of the motion picture industry to charge me $12 a ticket and also soak me for the pop corn and lemonade.
Can you help me compose my complaint?
Sincerely,
Rip Van Winkle
Other things I am pissed about:
* I flew to Chicago last week. I didn't pay for a first class ticket, so I had to sit in the back of the plane. And to make matters worse, they wouldn't let me board until after the first class and premium passengers.
* I went to a Broadway play. Orchestra seats were too expensive. I sat in the back of the mezzanine. I couldn't see the stage as well. I don't know why they didn't give me better seats, since I've been going to the theater for years.
* I was in the mood for steak last night. I didn't want to spend the money for a high end steakhouse, so I went to Applebee's. The steak was thin and tough.
* I flew to Chicago last week. I didn't pay for a first class ticket, so I had to sit in the back of the plane. And to make matters worse, they wouldn't let me board until after the first class and premium passengers.
* I went to a Broadway play. Orchestra seats were too expensive. I sat in the back of the mezzanine. I couldn't see the stage as well. I don't know why they didn't give me better seats, since I've been going to the theater for years.
* I was in the mood for steak last night. I didn't want to spend the money for a high end steakhouse, so I went to Applebee's. The steak was thin and tough.
it's hard to feel bad about anything cost wise with rutgers football when the tickets are already such a great value.
The federal government is a real problem here.as they will not allow tax credits for donations for those who can't itemize despite their onerous expenses.
You don't get a "credit" for charitable donations, you get a deduction.
If you don't have sufficient deductions to itemize, then you're probably not donating much to charity, anyway.
Black lot has wider spaces. We moved to black voluntarily although we would qualify for blue or purple. Black is a good lot and really not much further than purple and easier to get in and out.
You get $6300 in deductions just for being a taxpayer ($12,600 if married). It's not the government's fault that you don't have more than $6300 in deductible expenses including your Rutgers donations.
I just got back from vacation, and just got my tickets and I was also disappointed to be moved to black. I had blue for many years and then moved back to purple, and now black. My personal sales rep, host or what ever they are called. Had told me my season tickets, donation and seat donattion were more than enough for purple. So I don't know what happemed I'll call him tomorrow and get the skinny. I don't think everything is on the up and up, how can college students afford blue and purple and most likely don,t contribute, and have 20 or more years of season tickets and also priority seats. but still push us old timers into black. I don't usually complain about lots but the older I get the further my walk gets. Anyway bethehemfan I feel better about your comments, because I was thinking going thru the campus should be quicker to get out, because when leaving the purple, the traffic cops won't let me take the left thru the campus and makes us go where the blue, green, red,& yellow all merge.
So thanks for brightening my hopes. Do the knightingales go thru there? Also when does it become smarter to park at the rac and take a bus in? anyone have an opinion on that? Because I'm sure I'll be pushed out of black in a year or two. On a fix income I,m sure I won't be increasing my donations.
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what probably has happened is that you had enough points for purple, but enough people had more points than you to the point the lot was full of them, thus you get bumped.
when you talked to your rep, the rep knows roughly what qualifies for the lot, but would not know how many others qualify, and if they will report more points than you.
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I think what has happened is that the bare minimum to qualify for the lot wound up being not enough to get in, due to
all those in that lot having more total points.
in other words, you qualify, but don't have enough points to get there
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
The point cutoffs for the lot are determined AFTER THE FACT. It's not a bar set prior to lot selections, where some people make it and some don't.
The point cutoff represents the lowest point total of the people who actually got into the lot. So if the cutoff for Purple is 34.5 points, that means that of all the people in the Purple lot, the lowest point total represented is 34.5 points. If you have that many points, or more, then you get into the Purple lot - unless A) you specified that you wanted a different lot (with a lower point requirement) or B) a mistake was made.
I think he may have been referring more to the minimum donations, meaning just because you pay the $250 donation for purple, you don't automatically get that lot.
There in lies the problem. Throw in years of loyality... All want to see RU make money but has to be a better way... Like Jets' seats licenses..a bad idea.
I don't really see how it's a problem, other than for the people who can't afford to donate anything.
But then, it's like everything else, right? I'd love a 60' yacht, but I can't afford it. I mean, I've been sailing for 30 years... I'm loyal to the sport. So why can't somebody just give me a really big boat?
But since Rutgers gives points for loyalty, you analogy is more like someone giving you a 30% discount on your yacht because you've been sailing for so long and then you complaining that you should get a 90% discount (or 95% since you sailed to Temple in the rain).
While your characterization is correct, I think you are missing the points of the complaints. This is about the "feeling" that these long time fans get when bumped to further and further lots. Since they are expressing their feelings and disappointments it is perfectly valid.
The real question is, does it matter to Rutgers Football and Rutgers in-general?
Answer: No... not really. Here's why:
1) If they cannot donate enough to keep their lot.. how much could they be donating to football and Rutgers?
2) If they could have donated more but chose not to, they can correct that and reclaim their seats and lots. The people who do that are not complaining... they understand the game.
3) Can their disappointment spread and infect those that can donate enough to keep their seats and lots? No.. I don't think so.
As I expressed earlier, the only potential threat is coupled to Rutgers Football on-field failure. If they fail badly, and the monied people flee.. then this could be a problem because Rutgers will not be able to repair their relationship with these people who cannot donate enough. If that problem arises we have bigger problems... someone above replied suggesting a stadium full of these old people who do not donate enough is not exactly exciting enough for him to want to attend.
The donations being encouraged and demanded are to be used to build the program, make it more competitive. Something, if done well, will actually grow the need to donate more as ticket demand rises. As long as winning goes hand-in-hand with demand for donations, Rutgers Football should be fine.
But today it is purple lot people being moved to black who are disaffected. Oddly, if Rutgers Football is successful, it will soon be yellow lot people forced out to blue.. and beyond. Sure some of them will ramp up donations to keep seats and lots.. but I think at some point Rutgers has to consider who is more likely to remember Rutgers in their wills.. some new blood who just wants a hot ticket when Rutgers Football is hot.. or some lifetime fans who donated moderately for half a century?
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What you say here makes sense, for some reason I thought the required points were figured ahead of time.....so if some people were a bit over the latest published lot requirement the school has some explaining to do.
What is true is that someone could have donated what was the BEFORE hand minimum donation requirement and satisfied the PREVIOUS years point total, and this person gets bumped by the new higher requirement
Anyway, the person who made the NEW pt total and got bumped should call for an explanation
I think the nightingale goes to black but not sure. I haven't parked at the rac in years so not sure about the bus service now but back then getting back entailed a long wait standing in line after a close game. I recall up to 30 minutes wait in some instances. I am not sure if that's still true. Walking from the rac is quite a hike.
Motor,
The church lot is cheaper than the lots closer to the stadium ("donation" and per game price) which are the lots she used to have and prefers to the black lot.
The church lot is cheaper than the lots closer to the stadium ("donation" and per game price) which are the lots she used to have and prefers to the black lot.
This is a silly question, because anyone who has been donating to Rutgers for half a century and doesn't qualify for the Purple lot is donating so little that they are unlikely to leave Rutgers in their will anyway.
Heck, let's just compare a new, fly-by-night fan to someone who has had a pair of season tickets for just 12 years. The fly-by-night fan needs to donate $3400 to qualify for the Purple lot. The 12-year fan would have needed to donate $1000 per year to qualify for the Purple lot. Rutgers is giving the 12-year fan a $2400 discount in return for 12 years of being a loyal donor and ticket holder. That's a pretty good discount. But if you are a 12-year fan, and are donating less than $1000 per year, you really aren't the type of person who is likely to leave a lot of money to Rutgers based being a football fan.
If you look at the Yellow lot, the long-term fan gets an even greater discount. Compare a fly-by-night fan to someone who has had 2 football and 2 basketball tickets for 12 years. The fly-by-night fan would have had to donate $7100 to qualify for the Yellow lot. The 12-year fan only needed to donate $2000 per year, a $5100 discount!
But if Rutgers is looking for people to bequest significant sums in their wills, then Rutgers needs to look at the people who started in the Black lot when they were 22, and increased their donations every year. Once these people get to be 52, they are easily qualifying for the Scarlet lot. And while these people are climbing in the lot hierarchy, they are bumping other people down. But from Rutgers' perspective, that is OK, because the most generous loyal fans are getting priority over those who donate less. What Rutgers needs to be careful of, is once these people hit retirement age, and their incomes and ability to donate drop, they don't get bumped too far down, and their fan experience doesn't suffer too much, because these people are the ones who will remember Rutgers in their wills.
Exactly. What did the Jets and Giants do to their 30 year season ticket holders upon the completion of Metlife? Made them pay up to continue to sit and park. Cost of business. Get over it lady
Hmmmmmmmm might want to re-think that argument. Jets seat licenses a huge blunder. New Giants Stadium has the soul of a refrigerator. Exactly what RU does not want to do.
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I was just thinking this earlier (and I don't think it's been mentioned yet): didn't we all get 5 extra priority points for renewing season tickets before December 31st? If she renewed in 2014 then she really has no room to talk for not getting purple.
There is a lot of people crying about the same thing on social media
I'm glad to call them out each and everytime.
Amazing how people confuse going to a game here and there 30 years ago to being a season ticket holder for 30 straight years
And expect the same reward
I'm glad to call them out each and everytime.
Amazing how people confuse going to a game here and there 30 years ago to being a season ticket holder for 30 straight years
And expect the same reward
Isn't this a similar situation to that of Rutgers Richie a few years ago who couldn't maintain his lower level midfield seats because he never donated to RU ?
How about this scenario? 4 to 7 season tickets for 25 years = 25 points
1 season ticket for 25 years = 25 points
And get the same reward!
I'm surprised no one blamed the high cost of living in New Jersey and say they are moving out.
From what I understand, most of the time these priority lots (blue and purple) don't even get filled, so people get pushed out for nothing and the spaces get wasted. True?
False.
Passes are distributed for all the available spaces in each lot. But not every season ticket holder uses all his/her passes for every game. (For example, I have 2 season passes. There were some games last season where I only used 1 pass. For the Wisconsin game, I only used 1 pass plus I took someone from a distant lot who wanted a closer lot to avoid walking in the rain.)
If DTN were still alive I'm sure he'd say that he Banged Her.
I just got off the phone wih my sales rep. He says the priority points for blue, and purple went up 15 points. That,s a lot of points for one year, but the worst part, the chances are I will be pushed out of black next year, So I asked him
what about all those college students how do they come up with all those points? He says they don't pay at all they get them free from the fraternities, who gets them from alumni and other donators. So I guess people who been
going to games and supporting for 4,5, 6 decades means little. Well I guess I have a year to figure this out.
what about all those college students how do they come up with all those points? He says they don't pay at all they get them free from the fraternities, who gets them from alumni and other donators. So I guess people who been
going to games and supporting for 4,5, 6 decades means little. Well I guess I have a year to figure this out.
The Blue lot absolutely did NOT go up 15 points. The Blue lot cutoff this year is 44, last year it was 38 or 39.
And yes, the frat parties have gotten their parking passes from legacy alumni, mostly. But that's pretty much in the past. As of last year, there were no frat parties in the Blue lot as all the student mosh pit parties have been relocated to Hamsterdam.
1) If I donate enough money and qualify for 3 parking passes, why shouldn't I be allowed to give one of them to my daughter so she and her friends can tailgate? However, there really aren't enough student groups using parking passes to have a material difference on the priority point cutoffs. The increase in the cutoffs is due to the other 98% of season ticket holders donating more, buying additional tickets and parking passes, and taking advantage of promotions that give them bonus points.
2) Without replaying the math posted earlier in this thread, how the hell have you been buying season tickets and donating for 4 decades and not have enough priority points to qualify for Purple?
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