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Do any of you know Maureen Casey ? RE. Black Lot

1) If I donate enough money and qualify for 3 parking passes, why shouldn't I be allowed to give one of them to my daughter so she and her friends can tailgate? However, there really aren't enough student groups using parking passes to have a material difference on the priority point cutoffs. The increase in the cutoffs is due to the other 98% of season ticket holders donating more, buying additional tickets and parking passes, and taking advantage of promotions that give them bonus points.


2) Without replaying the math posted earlier in this thread, how the hell have you been buying season tickets and donating for 4 decades and not have enough priority points to qualify for Purple?
 
1) If I donate enough money and qualify for 3 parking passes, why shouldn't I be allowed to give one of them to my daughter so she and her friends can tailgate? However, there really aren't enough student groups using parking passes to have a material difference on the priority point cutoffs. The increase in the cutoffs is due to the other 98% of season ticket holders donating more, buying additional tickets and parking passes, and taking advantage of promotions that give them bonus points.


2) Without replaying the math posted earlier in this thread, how the hell have you been buying season tickets and donating for 4 decades and not have enough priority points to qualify for Purple?
 
Hmmmmmmmm might want to re-think that argument. Jets seat licenses a huge blunder. New Giants Stadium has the soul of a refrigerator. Exactly what RU does not want to do.

While it is an ancillary issue I am curious why you state that Jets seat licenses were a huge blunder. I appreciate that people were upset and some long time fans were pushed out. But, the fact is that the Jets attendance has been largely consistent with attendance before the new stadium (and PSLs). Also, since the stadium opened in 2010, the Jets have never been lower than 5th in the NFL in total attendance and they have consistently averaged no more than a few hundred fans less than the Giants (who are always #2 to Washington). Once again, I get that there may a perception that the Jets screwed it up, but the facts don't really support that position.
 
Well what I actually said was " going to games for 4, 5 or 6 decades" I have not been a season pass holder for that long but going to games. In the old days you could go to games and pay very little and pick seats in most sections. Now the younger are making more money each year and older make much less, but I guess that's just life. Maybe the RAC is the answer I don't know, or buying tickets off the tickets board.
By the way, I remember my son wanted to bring 4 friends so I gave him 20 dollars and the 5 of them got the tickets from a scalper, that's 5 tickets for 4 dollars apiece.
 
The answer is obviously to donate more money consistently if one is able to do so.
However another way to view this situation is that we have been fortunate and should be little thankful that we have not been paying premium prices for seats and/or parking for the last 30 years or more. That's the way I view the current situation.
 
While it is an ancillary issue I am curious why you state that Jets seat licenses were a huge blunder. I appreciate that people were upset and some long time fans were pushed out. But, the fact is that the Jets attendance has been largely consistent with attendance before the new stadium (and PSLs). Also, since the stadium opened in 2010, the Jets have never been lower than 5th in the NFL in total attendance and they have consistently averaged no more than a few hundred fans less than the Giants (who are always #2 to Washington). Once again, I get that there may a perception that the Jets screwed it up, but the facts don't really support that position.

While the Jets may announce sell outs, the realty is far different. One need only go to Stub Hub to observe the massive dumping of tickets. Sometimes perception is in actuality the reality.
 
Well what I actually said was " going to games for 4, 5 or 6 decades" I have not been a season pass holder for that long but going to games. In the old days you could go to games and pay very little and pick seats in most sections. Now the younger are making more money each year and older make much less, but I guess that's just life. Maybe the RAC is the answer I don't know, or buying tickets off the tickets board.
By the way, I remember my son wanted to bring 4 friends so I gave him 20 dollars and the 5 of them got the tickets from a scalper, that's 5 tickets for 4 dollars apiece.

Hence while some old timers consider those old tickets a donation to which no credit is given.
 
Indeed I do. I don't recall the Blue lot cutoff being so low last year.

From the Internet Archive

The 2014 Priority Point cutoffs for each lot are as follows:

Scarlet 96
Scarlet H/C 41
Green 71
Yellow 64
Blue 31
Purple 23
White H/C 22
Black 13
Tan 1+
Silver 1+
Light Blue 1+


From ScarletKnights.com

The 2015 Priority Point cutoffs for each lot are as follows:

Scarlet 121
Scarlet H/C 54
Green 92
Yellow 71
Blue 44
Purple 34
White H/C 36
Black 26
Silver 20
Light Blue 15
Tan 14
RAC 13
 
While the Jets may announce sell outs, the realty is far different. One need only go to Stub Hub to observe the massive dumping of tickets. Sometimes perception is in actuality the reality.

They announce a sellout because it is a sellout, i.e., tickets sold. Just like Rutgers. No one reports the turnstile anymore. As for actual attendance, the Jets are no different than 25+ other franchises. When they are winning, everyone goes and when the team stinks less fans go.
 
Well what I actually said was " going to games for 4, 5 or 6 decades" I have not been a season pass holder for that long but going to games. In the old days you could go to games and pay very little and pick seats in most sections. Now the younger are making more money each year and older make much less, but I guess that's just life. Maybe the RAC is the answer I don't know, or buying tickets off the tickets board.
By the way, I remember my son wanted to bring 4 friends so I gave him 20 dollars and the 5 of them got the tickets from a scalper, that's 5 tickets for 4 dollars apiece.

In Schiano's first year, 14 years ago, an end-zone season ticket cost $63 ($9 per game). But you weren't even willing to pay the $9 per game and get credit for a year of season ticket purchases. Instead you bought tickets from a scalper for $4.

If you had spent the $63, Rutgers would give you $1400 worth of priority points for free today. But you didn't give Rutgers the $63. And now you are complaining that Rutgers isn't giving you enough in return? Good luck getting sympathy for that position on this board.
 
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In Schiano's first year, 14 years ago, an end-zone season ticket cost $63 ($9 per game). But you weren't even willing to pay the $9 per game and get credit for a year of season ticket purchases. Instead you bought tickets from a scalper for $4.

If you had spent the $63, Rutgers would give you $1400 worth of priority points for free today. But you didn't give Rutgers the $63. And now you are complaining that Rutgers isn't giving you enough in return? Good luck getting sympathy for that position on this board.

How about the guy with those original tickets who could not give them away? He gets no credit! Thousands a year!
 
They announce a sellout because it is a sellout, i.e., tickets sold. Just like Rutgers. No one reports the turnstile anymore. As for actual attendance, the Jets are no different than 25+ other franchises. When they are winning, everyone goes and when the team stinks less fans go.

Reality its been a failure... We'll have to agree to disagree. Time will bear it out and pray that the Jets don't have any more player and public relations disasters... Oh wait never mind.
 
She wants a free lunch:

Black lot really far away from all my friends

No it's because I can't donate more money I was in purple last year that was bad enough. It's all a point system now!
How many points do you need for the Red Lot?
 
In Schiano's first year, 14 years ago, an end-zone season ticket cost $63 ($9 per game). But you weren't even willing to pay the $9 per game and get credit for a year of season ticket purchases. Instead you bought tickets from a scalper for $4.

If you had spent the $63, Rutgers would give you $1400 worth of priority points for free today. But you didn't give Rutgers the $63. And now you are complaining that Rutgers isn't giving you enough in return? Good luck getting sympathy for that position on this board.
Sorry, for the misleading statement, I had season tickets for Schiano, and Shea, for Me, & daughters but my son wanted to bring his friends so we scalped, this was in the Shea era, 97 or 98.
Relax,I was just telling a story, did not want an arguement. Also priority points weren,t needed then, and even if they were, 6 season tickets were to much for me, so we scalped if had extra people.
We didn,t even need parking passes nobody even checked just found an apartment, or business where people were gone for the weekend. That was the good old days.
 
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Indeed I do. I don't recall the Blue lot cutoff being so low last year.
How do you think riffraff like us made it in there?
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Sorry, for the misleading statement, I had season tickets for Schiano, and Shea I was going back alot further. I was just relating a personal story, but some of you young guys just like to argue and acuse all of the time, relax buddy.

Sorry that I misinterpreted your comment.

Just for the record, I didn't have season tickets pre-2007. I bought single-game tickets because I liked the flexibility of buying however many tickets I needed, depending on how many people I was going to a game with. Also for a long period I was able to get free tickets on the 50-yard-line because I managed my former company's sponsorship of Rutgers football. In 2007, I purchased my first football season ticket, to ensure I didn't get shut out during the high demand following 2006.

However, I recognized how the priority point system worked, and when I got season tickets in 2007 I didn't expect to get priority points in exchange for the years I attended games without buying season tickets, and I didn't expect to get priority points for the money that my former company spent on the sponsorship I managed. Even though I had been attending Rutgers football games for a very long time at that point, I recognized that I got no credit for any of that.
 
So if I have six season tickets per year for 25 years I get 25 points and if I have a single ticket for 25 years I get 25 points?
 
So if I have six season tickets per year for 25 years I get 25 points and if I have a single ticket for 25 years I get 25 points?

That is correct.

The point allocation is for "consecutive years as a season ticket holder". The number of tickets is irrelevant.

What you do get is a point for each ticket in the Current Year. So if you have 6 tickets, in any given year you get four more points than the guy who has 2.
 
So if I have six season tickets per year for 25 years I get 25 points and if I have a single ticket for 25 years I get 25 points?

You get 1 priority point for every consecutive year that you have held season tickets.

You also get 1 priority point for each seat in your season ticket package last year.

So if you have 1 ticket for 25 years, you get 26 points. That's $2600 worth of priority points. You also got admission for 1 person to football games for 25 years.

And if you had 6 tickets for 25 years you get 31 points. That's $3100 worth of priority points. You also got admission for 6 people to football games for 25 years.
 
I do see G -ru-units point here

The same loyalty credit is being applied if you got one ticket (say $150 a season ticket on average for the past 25 years) instead of four ($600 a year on average for the past 25 years)

One guy spent $3750 while the other guy spent $15000 to get those same 25 priority points
 
Hey Maureen, money talks b.s. walks. History never matters. If you want old time football become an Ivy League fan. Watch Rutgers at your local pub and save the difference.
 
I do see G -ru-units point here

The same loyalty credit is being applied if you got one ticket (say $150 a season ticket on average for the past 25 years) instead of four ($600 a year on average for the past 25 years)

One guy spent $3750 while the other guy spent $15000 to get those same 25 priority points


That's only seems like a ripoff if you think the purpose of buying season tickets is to get priority points. But if you think that the purpose of buying season tickets is to see football games, then it is perfectly reasonable. The first person paid $3750 to get one person into football games, and the second person spent six times as much to get six times as many people into the same football games.

The priority point bonus is to reward people who have maintained their connection with Rutgers Athletics by buying season tickets over consecutive years, not to reimburse them for the cost of their tickets. If that were the case, then I would argue that if I am getting 1 point for my $385 sideline season ticket purchased this year, then someone buying $280 end-zone seats should only get 0.73 points, and the guy who bought the $63 ticket in 2001 should only get 0.16 point for that purchase.
 
I do see G -ru-units point here

The same loyalty credit is being applied if you got one ticket (say $150 a season ticket on average for the past 25 years) instead of four ($600 a year on average for the past 25 years)

One guy spent $3750 while the other guy spent $15000 to get those same 25 priority points

This!!!
 
That's only seems like a ripoff if you think the purpose of buying season tickets is to get priority points. But if you think that the purpose of buying season tickets is to see football games, then it is perfectly reasonable. The first person paid $3750 to get one person into football games, and the second person spent six times as much to get six times as many people into the same football games.

The priority point bonus is to reward people who have maintained their connection with Rutgers Athletics by buying season tickets over consecutive years, not to reimburse them for the cost of their tickets. If that were the case, then I would argue that if I am getting 1 point for my $385 sideline season ticket purchased this year, then someone buying $280 end-zone seats should only get 0.73 points, and the guy who bought the $63 ticket in 2001 should only get 0.16 point for that purchase.

Not buying that explanation/analogy at all. Its not the price but that if I split my tickets I would have had six times as many points. Besides that simple math, I as well as many fans during the dark days, looked at the tickets as donations as we knew we couldn't give them away. Bought the tickets to support the school. The idea of trying to get six times as many people in is sadly comical. That loyality should be just as rewarded as much as anything else.
 
Not buying that explanation/analogy at all. Its not the price but that if I split my tickets I would have had six times as many points. Besides that simple math, I as well as many fans during the dark days, looked at the tickets as donations as we knew we couldn't give them away. Bought the tickets to support the school. The idea of trying to get six times as many people in is sadly comical. That loyality should be just as rewarded as much as anything else.

No you wouldn't. You'd have six different ticket accounts with the same number of points in each that you have now. Fewer, actually, because you'd only get one point in the current year for the number of seats on each account.

You'd have six parking passes - but they'd all be at the RAC.
 
Not buying that explanation/analogy at all. Its not the price but that if I split my tickets I would have had six times as many points. Besides that simple math, I as well as many fans during the dark days, looked at the tickets as donations as we knew we couldn't give them away. Bought the tickets to support the school. The idea of trying to get six times as many people in is sadly comical. That loyality should be just as rewarded as much as anything else.

Wait. Are you saying you bought 5 tickets that you didn't need for years, because you thought they were a donation? Why didn't you just donate the money and use the tax deduction to give even more to Rutgers?

Let's look at buying a season end-zone ticket for the 20 years up to 2005 (from 2006 onward, you can hardly count the purchase as a donation, since there was plenty of demand and many games were sold out). That 20 years' worth of season tickets would have cost you exactly $1040 (that should have been your first hint to take a tax deduction). So 5 "donation" tickets would have netted Rutgers $5200. If you donated that instead, you would have earned 5.2 priority points for your donation (which is slightly more than the 5 points you get for having an extra 5 tickets in your current ticket package).

But assuming you're in a 25% marginal tax bracket, for the same $5200 out of your pocket, you could have donated $6933 to Rutgers, and the University would have that much more money, and you would have earned 6.9 points instead.
 
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Wait. Are you saying you bought 5 tickets that you didn't need for years, because you thought they were a donation? Why didn't you just donate the money and use the tax deduction to give even more to Rutgers?

Let's look at buying a season end-zone ticket for the 20 years up to 2005 (from 2006 onward, you can hardly count the purchase as a donation, since there was plenty of demand and many games were sold out). That 20 years' worth of season tickets would have cost you exactly $1040 (that should have been your first hint to take a tax deduction). So 5 "donation" tickets would have netted Rutgers $5200. If you donated that instead, you would have earned 5.2 priority points for your donation (which is slightly more than the 5 points you get for having an extra 5 tickets in your current ticket package).

But assuming you're in a 25% marginal tax bracket, for the same $5200 out of your pocket, you could have donated $6933 to Rutgers, and the University would have that much more money, and you would have earned 6.9 points instead.

Lol! Certainly was not thinking income tax purposes in my twenties but was thinking support the team. End zone seats? Lest we forget that for many years end zone seats were non existent or few and far between and why would you assume the cheapest seats? Furthermore from the end of the Anderson era, a lot of the Graber years, basically all of the Shea era and the first four years of Schiano, I literally ate hundreds of tickets. I was in fact supporting RU to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars over that time frame.
 
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No you wouldn't. You'd have six different ticket accounts with the same number of points in each that you have now. Fewer, actually, because you'd only get one point in the current year for the number of seats on each account.

You'd have six parking passes - but they'd all be at the RAC.


I beg to differ as if you gave even a little bit you would to be eligible for six blue lot passes. For example last year Blue Lot was 31 points. 25 points would put you well on your way to six separate blue lot parking passes.
 
I beg to differ as if you gave even a little bit you would to be eligible for six blue lot passes. For example last year Blue Lot was 31 points. 25 points would put you well on your way to six separate blue lot parking passes.

And this year it's 44 points. So your now 26 points would be in each case 18 points shy of the blue lot. To get your 6 passes in the blue lot would cost you an additional $10,800.
 
And this year it's 44 points. So your now 26 points would be in each case 18 points shy of the blue lot. To get your 6 passes in the blue lot would cost you an additional $10,800.
Stop using mathiness, it hurts.
 
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