Does everyone realize that

[theRU]

The Rutgers University Foundation was already in the gofundme database prior to us launching the fundraiser??

Why are people still hell bent on saying that we did something without their approval. They took the steps to become a "CERTIFIED CHARITY" within gofundme much like american cancer society has as well.

I'm embarrassed that you guys went to Rutgers, since you clearly do not know how to do research, or master the internet



Here is how it works:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity/
Here are other verified charities that you can donate to:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity-donations
Here is where it states that if you donate to a verified charity you will get a receipt and can be tax deductible:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604684-Is-my-donation-tax-deductible-
Here is where it shows you how a "verfied" Charity gets in their database:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-u...on-profit-get-on-your-Certified-Charity-list-
.

 

[theRU]

and i'm not trying to dig this issue up again, but jesus its so frustrating to see how this lie continues to be perpetuated.

 

[lighty]

the concept of crowdfunding obviously scares them. I wonder if they really prefer the idea of 3-5 guys with a load of cash running the entire show versus hundreds or thousands with small donations having a stake.

I applaud you for your efforts. If nothing else, hopefully this wakes Rutgers up to the potential for crowdfunding.

and yes, I understood what "certified charity" meant... if they had only gone to the website they would have as well.

 

[RUJohnny99]

I guess Rutgers is in on the scam
HTTPS://one.rutgers.edu

 

[MidwestKnights]

the concept of crowdfunding obviously scares them. I wonder if they really prefer the idea of 3-5 guys with a load of cash running the entire show versus hundreds or thousands with small donations having a stake.

I applaud you for your efforts. If nothing else, hopefully this wakes Rutgers up to the potential for crowdfunding.

and yes, I understood what "certified charity" meant... if they had only gone to the website they would have as well.

Well said lighty and spot on.

 

[KeithK7624]

I guess Rutgers is in on the scam
HTTPS://one.rutgers.edu

Lol they registered with the site... They were just doing all they could to distance themselves from it. I seriously am baffled that some people here do not understand crowd funding and/or Rutgers trying to making this go away

 

[RUJohnny99]

The funny thing is, if theRU had used Scalefunder instead of Gofundme, the campaign would have shown up on the Rutgers site above, right next to the Theta Chi fundraiser that doesn't even list what the money is being used for!

 

[theRU]

The funny thing is, if theRU had used Scalefunder instead of Gofundme, the campaign would have shown up on the Rutgers site above, right next to the Theta Chi fundraiser that doesn't even list what the money is being used for!

you should set up scalefunder and duplicate the campaign

 

[theRU]

Here is how it works:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity/
Here are other verified charities that you can donate to:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity-donations
Here is where it states that if you donate to a verified charity you will get a receipt and can be tax deductible:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604684-Is-my-donation-tax-deductible-
Here is where it shows you how a "verfied" Charity gets in their database:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-u...on-profit-get-on-your-Certified-Charity-list-

 

[RUsojo]

I am fully supportive of the idea behind the campaign. However, Rutgers clearly understands the concept of crowdfunding - but won't condone a #FireFlood crowdfunding campaign.

Anyone can argue they should have taken the money seeing as they were not obligated to use it to fire flood but the OP gave them no choice by titling it as such. A title of Head Coach Endowment Fund - or literally ANYTHING other than fire flood (be more subtle) - would have gave Rutgers the option to keep the money and BTW it would be raising more money as we speak.

IMO

 

[RUJohnny99]

you should set up scalefunder and duplicate the campaign

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

#ChopMediocrity

 

[eceres]

you should set up scalefunder and duplicate the campaign

Does ScaleFunder allow anyone to create a campaign? I do not see a link one scalefunder.com or one.rutgers.edu to make a campaign. I think only university related people with administrative accounts can create a campaign.

 

[theRU]

I am fully supportive of the idea behind the campaign. However, Rutgers clearly understands the concept of crowdfunding - but won't condone a #FireFlood crowdfunding campaign.

Anyone can argue they should have taken the money seeing as they were not obligated to use it to fire flood but the OP gave them no choice by titling it as such. A title of Head Coach Endowment Fund - or literally ANYTHING other than fire flood (be more subtle) - would have gave Rutgers the option to keep the money and BTW it would be raising more money as we speak.

IMO

I hear you can yes we can debate those thigns. Point is we want the admin to know we don't accept mediocrity. The point was also to take advantage of those who are pissed and motivated to donate to make a change. If we're going to do an endowment fund, that should just go straight to the school and not have another organization take 4-5% processing fee from it.

The idiots that run RU gave us the worst possible outcome -- They let us send the message, but they let us do it for free.

WE DONT WANT THEM TO RETURN THE DAMN MONEY. Use it to buy something- anything.

 

[eceres]

I hear you can yes we can debate those thigns. Point is we want the admin to know we don't accept mediocrity. The point was also to take advantage of those who are pissed and motivated to donate to make a change. If we're going to do an endowment fund, that should just go straight to the school and not have another organization take 4-5% processing fee from it.

The idiots that run RU gave us the worst possible outcome -- They let us send the message, but they let us do it for free.

WE DONT WANT THEM TO RETURN THE DAMN MONEY. Use it to buy something- anything.

As mentioned above - someone should contact the AD and ask for them to create a one.rutgers.edu camapign for an endowment.

 

[Upstream]

The Rutgers University Foundation was already in the gofundme database prior to us launching the fundraiser??

Why are people still hell bent on saying that we did something without their approval. They took the steps to become a "CERTIFIED CHARITY" within gofundme much like american cancer society has as well.

I'm embarrassed that you guys went to Rutgers, since you clearly do not know how to do research, or master the internet



Here is how it works:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity/
Here are other verified charities that you can donate to:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity-donations
Here is where it states that if you donate to a verified charity you will get a receipt and can be tax deductible:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604684-Is-my-donation-tax-deductible-
Here is where it shows you how a "verfied" Charity gets in their database:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-u...on-profit-get-on-your-Certified-Charity-list-
.

TheRU -- There are some here who just objected to the campaign and/or the cause, and are going to try to discredit you. There are a lot here who never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

But you need to let it go. Most of the people here recognize what you did, why you did it, and how you tried to ensure that it was legit. The campaign would have never raised $8000 if people thought it was shady, or just some guy on the internet trying to collect funds.

You should be proud of what you accomplished. You knew you were never going to raise a million dollars. But you raised awareness for your point. You proved that people who are concerned about the coaching situation are willing to put their money behind their complaints. You got publicity. And you got a response from Rutgers proving that they are aware of the concerns.

Pat yourself on the back. Job well done.

 

[theRU]

TheRU -- There are some here who just objected to the campaign and/or the cause, and are going to try to discredit you. There are a lot here who never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

But you need to let it go. Most of the people here recognize what you did, why you did it, and how you tried to ensure that it was legit. The campaign would have never raised $8000 if people thought it was shady, or just some guy on the internet trying to collect funds.

You should be proud of what you accomplished. You knew you were never going to raise a million dollars. But you raised awareness for your point. You proved that people who are concerned about the coaching situation are willing to put their money behind their complaints. You got publicity. And you got a response from Rutgers proving that they are aware of the concerns.

Pat yourself on the back. Job well done.

Thanks.... I'm fine with people debating whether it worked or not, whether it was the best thing to do or not... but what really pisses me off is when people challenge my integrity, that i went out there and set up a fraudulent account in the name of Rutgers. I cannot tolerate that, I AM A GODDAMN RUTGERS MAN and that fact that these people would defend a Flood considering what he did and try to dump on me is shameful.

I think i need to break away from this site for a while since i can't stop defending myself.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

I really think you gave the school no choice. If they allowed it to go on, and the school took the money but did not "#FireFlood" they would've been blasted for taking money and not putting it to the purpose sought by the fund donors. Its not that the school doesn't accept crowdfunding, its that this money was earmarked for a purpose the school didn't (and couldn't) support. You would get the same reaction if you started the "RutgersThirdReichMonument" web page.

The school would've been begging for trouble if they took that money. It should've been designed to establish a "Football Coaches Fund," similar to what we did with the wrestling team (in that case designed to bring in assistants). Then you have to be able to trust the school to deploy that money in an appropriate way. Because the organizers didn't trust the school's application of the funds, and tried to use the money to dictate the firing of a current employee, the school truly had no choice.

This is one of those situations where the ones blasting the school simply don't get it. That said, no one should be questioning your integrity, and Rutgers should have released a more appropriate response message. Really, that was the crime here. Their response indicated that you were a fraud, when of course that is not the case. Anyone can set up anything, with the money actually going to Rutgers.

 

[Upstream]

but what really pisses me off is when people challenge my integrity

The handful of people questioning your integrity are either too stupid to know better, or have an agenda they're trying to advance regardless of the facts. Don't let them get to you.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

PS - all of that said, I trusted the campaign, and would've given to it had the school not refused the money. Their response (at least as far as the refusal) was kind of expected though. I have no doubt that you didn't have any bad intent.

 

[soundcrib]

Does ScaleFunder allow anyone to create a campaign? I do not see a link one scalefunder.com or one.rutgers.edu to make a campaign. I think only university related people with administrative accounts can create a campaign.

Hey, what do you know?! The Rutgers University Foundation is listed as a registered charity on CrowdRise.

https://www.crowdrise.com/search/charity-results/null/rutgers/null/null

 

[RUgrad75]

RU did not start this campaign ...that is the black and white...you did and their campaigns are not towards a negative outcome .... yours was. The foundation has numerous categories to choose from including coaches etc. The Foundation should have been approached first before using their name and ID.

The campaign final comment is misleading as you did not have permission to claim the donations were going to the Foundation legally. This can be construed as A fraud like those collecting for PBA on the phone. I cannot take a charities tax ID and use it without their explicit permission and there is paperwork involved. The ID is published for RU so people know it's a legitimate charity. You can't go down the list of Gofundme accts and use their ID s either. This was wrong approach, end of discussion. I have been involved with fundraising for over 38 years with many organization and many educational groups.

No I won't respond to comments of being a Flood supporter, this has nothing to do with that and everything to do about doing something wrong. As class of 75 I've seen plenty of good, bad and ugly, but fundraising Rules are RULES.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

@RUgrad75 Firing Flood is a positive outcome, not a negative outcome. It's all about perspective.

 

[NotInRHouse]

We need to set up another one. This is the only way they will learn.

 

[lighty]

Rugrad75,

The money was going entirely to the Ru organization. IMO, they purposely added their name as a certified charity for people who love or want to support Rutgers to be able to raise money in their behalf.

The rules you speak of have changed in the crowdfunding era. If the organization DID NOT want people to raise money on their behalf they wouldn't have added their info and name to the list of charities available for the public.

 

[NotInRHouse]

RU did not start this campaign ...that is the black and white...you did and their campaigns are not towards a negative outcome .... yours was. The foundation has numerous categories to choose from including coaches etc. The Foundation should have been approached first before using their name and ID.

The campaign final comment is misleading as you did not have permission to claim the donations were going to the Foundation legally. This can be construed as A fraud like those collecting for PBA on the phone. I cannot take a charities tax ID and use it without their explicit permission and there is paperwork involved. The ID is published for RU so people know it's a legitimate charity. You can't go down the list of Gofundme accts and use their ID s either. This was wrong approach, end of discussion. I have been involved with fundraising for over 38 years with many organization and many educational groups.

No I won't respond to comments of being a Flood supporter, this has nothing to do with that and everything to do about doing something wrong. As class of 75 I've seen plenty of good, bad and ugly, but fundraising Rules are RULES.

Get a clue. You cited not one rule. RU put themselves on the site. They would have taken the money if it was for anything else. But because RU only knows how to turn gifts into crisis, they reacted like the clueless ingrates we know run the University.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

Let's just set up a crowd sourcing objective that the school and the athletic department will support. Like raise money for hiring FB coaching assistants. Or a new FB or BB facility. Something that is really needed. Something where people can donate over a year or so and actually see how much progress is made. That's the problem with the current RU donations site. It feels like you are just dumping money into a black hole with no feedback (visual or other) on how your contribution affects the whole.

 

[Jesse_C]

You can't go down the list of Gofundme accts and use their ID s either.

Actually, yes, yes you can. As long as you do it through GoFundMe. The entire point of the charitable giving part of the site is to allow individuals to setup campaigns to benefit charities, without the charity having to do any of the work. And GoFundMe ensures that the money is correctly routed to the charity, so there is no scam or fraud like there could be through phone solicitation campaigns. I know this is hard for some of you to grasp, but this is exactly what the site is for and exactly what Rutgers was signing up for when they registered with the site. Rutgers was within their right to refuse the money and have the campaign shutdown, but the idea that the people running the campaign did something illegal or even outside the terms of use of GoFundMe (which Rutgers had to agree to in order to be listed there) is ludicrous.

I know The internet is hard. Please try to do better with the understanding.

 

[soundcrib]

Nowadays, you can call people on the phone without knowing any of their phone numbers.

 

[MidwestKnights]

Rugrad75,

The money was going entirely to the Ru organization. IMO, they purposely added their name as a certified charity for people who love or want to support Rutgers to be able to raise money in their behalf.

The rules you speak of have changed in the crowdfunding era. If the organization DID NOT want people to raise money on their behalf they wouldn't have added their info and name to the list of charities available for the public.

Exactly! I've been on the board of nonprofits. Things are done differently now with viral campaigns and crowdsourcing. Somebody at Rutgers thought gofundme was a good channel at some point.

I'm also thinking of taking a break from this board. The myopia and ignorance across the rutgers community is overwhelming and wearing.

 

[vkj91]

RU was in a rough spot as stated above. What I'm curios to see is if Flood is fired would there be another fund and would it grow? Did people donate money because they want change only to run away once change is coming?

 

[theRU]

RU did not start this campaign ...that is the black and white...you did and their campaigns are not towards a negative outcome .... yours was. The foundation has numerous categories to choose from including coaches etc. The Foundation should have been approached first before using their name and ID.

The campaign final comment is misleading as you did not have permission to claim the donations were going to the Foundation legally. This can be construed as A fraud like those collecting for PBA on the phone. I cannot take a charities tax ID and use it without their explicit permission and there is paperwork involved. The ID is published for RU so people know it's a legitimate charity. You can't go down the list of Gofundme accts and use their ID s either. This was wrong approach, end of discussion. I have been involved with fundraising for over 38 years with many organization and many educational groups.

No I won't respond to comments of being a Flood supporter, this has nothing to do with that and everything to do about doing something wrong. As class of 75 I've seen plenty of good, bad and ugly, but fundraising Rules are RULES.

the more you talk about this the worse you look. You are completely clueless as to what goes on in this day and age.

 

[RUtix4me]

Set one up to support "all the positives that our athletic programs intended to represent, including hiring the best coaching and training staffs out there" all positives.

 

[RutgersROB]

Thanks.... I'm fine with people debating whether it worked or not, whether it was the best thing to do or not... but what really pisses me off is when people challenge my integrity, that i went out there and set up a fraudulent account in the name of Rutgers. I cannot tolerate that, I AM A GODDAMN RUTGERS MAN and that fact that these people would defend a Flood considering what he did and try to dump on me is shameful.

I think i need to break away from this site for a while since i can't stop defending myself.

" and that fact that these people would defend a Flood considering what he did and try to dump on me is shameful"

Considering what he did??? What exactly are you talking about?

You sound like whiny lil b*tch

And then what bring in Urban Meyer?

 

[theRU]

" and that fact that these people would defend a Flood considering what he did and try to dump on me is shameful"

Considering what he did??? What exactly are you talking about?

You sound like whiny lil b*tch

And then what bring in Urban Meyer?

You must have missed his 3 game suspension....or do you still think those were acts of a man with integrity?

 

[PaKnight]

The Rutgers University Foundation was already in the gofundme database prior to us launching the fundraiser??

Why are people still hell bent on saying that we did something without their approval. They took the steps to become a "CERTIFIED CHARITY" within gofundme much like american cancer society has as well.

I'm embarrassed that you guys went to Rutgers, since you clearly do not know how to do research, or master the internet



Here is how it works:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity/
Here are other verified charities that you can donate to:
https://www.gofundme.com/charity-donations
Here is where it states that if you donate to a verified charity you will get a receipt and can be tax deductible:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604684-Is-my-donation-tax-deductible-
Here is where it shows you how a "verfied" Charity gets in their database:
http://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-u...on-profit-get-on-your-Certified-Charity-list-
.

Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!

Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.

 

[RutgersROB]

You must have missed his 3 game suspension....or do you still think those were acts of a man with integrity?

Cmon dude so u are saying now after serving a 3-game suspension he deserves to be fired for the same offense... That was the most ridiculous scandal ever! he inquired about a players grade!!!! What football coach doesnt do this? Its said all the time they are STUDENT-ATHLETES... It was nj.com out for blood again and yall bit.....

like i said u sound like a whiny lil bitch...

ur calling out his integrity?? Flood has been recognized countless times for his work with the military, police, special olympics, and he was sticking his neck out for one of his players and put his life on the line and you are questioning his integrity??? You just started a webpage to get a guy fired...wheres the integrity in that.

 

[theRU]

Cmon dude so u are saying now after serving a 3-game suspension he deserves to be fired for the same offense... That was the most ridiculous scandal ever! he inquired about a players grade!!!! What football coach doesnt do this? Its said all the time they are STUDENT-ATHLETES... It was nj.com out for blood again and yall bit.....

like i said u sound like a whiny lil bitch...

ur calling out his integrity?? Flood has been recognized countless times for his work with the military, police, special olympics, and he was sticking his neck out for one of his players and put his life on the line and you are questioning his integrity??? You just started a webpage to get a guy fired...wheres the integrity in that.

He should have been terminated immediately. So don't hold it against me that i still want him fired. Integrity is what you do when nobody is watching. We can all kiss babies when the cameras are rolling, we can all preach "rutgers man" this and that, "TBA, FAMILY" etc...but what you do when nobody pays attention speaks to who you are. He was advised not to do what he did....I dont want that man leading anymore.

Call me whatever you want, but i have every right to be pissed when people make it seem like i was stealing peoples money. Agree with the fundraiser or not, but there was nothing illegal, illegitimate or deceptive about it.

Have a good day.

 

[RC1991]

Sorry, but I do have to question Flood's integrity when he is knowingly circumventing the rules/processes that were in place....particularly the statement about using personal email and setting up clandestine meetings after being made aware it was against the rules. That is not someone acting with integrity despite the other work that he was doing.... and not for nothing but he shouldn't have to be sticking his neck out for a player that failed Dance Appreciation!!!! How lazy do you have to be to fail that.....I mean come on, it's not like the kid failed linear algebra or something difficult!

 

[RutgersROB]

He should have been terminated immediately. So don't hold it against me that i still want him fired. Integrity is what you do when nobody is watching. We can all kiss babies when the cameras are rolling, we can all preach "rutgers man" this and that, "TBA, FAMILY" etc...but what you do when nobody pays attention speaks to who you are. He was advised not to do what he did....I dont want that man leading anymore.

Call me whatever you want, but i have every right to be pissed when people make it seem like i was stealing peoples money. Agree with the fundraiser or not, but there was nothing illegal, illegitimate or deceptive about it.

Have a good day.

inquiring with a professor about a players grade is not an NCAA infraction... He did not try to force the teacher to change the grade...he was lookin out for his player and looking out for his football team....he shouldnt even have been suspended 3 games u sound like a fool saying he should have been fired..you dont like him stop trying to use the email situation...u arent happy with his recruiting and w-l record thats enough for u to voice ur displeasure and for u to feel he should be fired....

 

[theRU]

inquiring with a professor about a players grade is not an NCAA infraction... He did not try to force the teacher to change the grade...he was lookin out for his player and looking out for his football team....he shouldnt even have been suspended 3 games u sound like a fool saying he should have been fired..you dont like him stop trying to use the email situation...u arent happy with his recruiting and w-l record thats enough for u to voice ur displeasure and for u to feel he should be fired....

You didn't read the report. Judging how you write, i'm not the one who looks like a fool.

W-L + Recruiting+ email-gate+arrests= FIRED