Doucore: Will he leave?

[trotter]

I cringe when Doorson is in the game. We have 4 offensive players then. So stiff around the boards. Carter and Myles are much better rebounders to me, and way better offensively.

 

[Mr Magoo]

I cringe when Doorson is in the game. We have 4 offensive players then. So stiff around the boards. Carter and Myles are much better rebounders to me, and way better offensively.

Can’t understand it myself. I get it that he’s a good guy and easy to root for but Carter and Johnson are much better options to me...and they will be back next year.

 

[biazza38]

Can’t understand it myself. I get it that he’s a good guy and easy to root for but Carter and Johnson are much better options to me...and they will be back next year.

Every player has a role. Pike is no dummy. Doorson is a big body and a solid rebounder

 

[dpwhite]

Can’t understand it myself. I get it that he’s a good guy and easy to root for but Carter and Johnson are much better options to me...and they will be back next year.

Because part of building a program is playing and respecting your seniors. It shows recruits that you care about them as well. And Doorson hasn't been awful, he's been really good defensively against some of the other big guys in the Big Ten too.

We can keep throwing players under the bus every 8 seconds.

 

[ColonelRutgers]

Doorson is a much better post defender than Johnson at this point and has learned how to play without fouling constantly, an issue Johnson has struggled with. Johnson is much more skilled offensively but doesn't always show it and is a little too passive sometimes. Doorson has really been a positive contributor. Glad to finally see him healthy. He has earned his minutes - it's not charity.

 

[dkostus]

Doorson's strength and size makes a lot of the better big guys around the league uncomfortable. They are clearly not used to being smaller. And note, Archie Miller specifically brought up how Indiana was challenged right at the rim last night. That was mainly Doorson.

 

[RUsince52]

Johnson has a tough game against Indiana but I have seen enough to believe he can be a really good center for us. Watch the last five minutes of the Nebraska Game as an example

Maybe on the defensive end for now. The Neb game he took 8 shots and looked to be a breakout game for him. The other three games or even the last two, he took 5 shots total and has more PF than points. Check out his pts per mins played, not productive, but neither are the other big guys. I hope he can develop a shot.

 

[wheezer]

Maybe on the defensive end for now. The Neb game he took 8 shots and looked to be a breakout game for him. The other three games or even the last two, he took 5 shots total and has more PF than points. Check out his pts per mins played, not productive, but neither are the other big guys. I hope he can develop a shot.

I am certainly no expert on bb talent, just think that he can make some fluid moves with the ball and play good defense

He is in hist first year of four, hope he gets stronger and more aggressive over time

 

[Arizona Knight]

Maybe on the defensive end for now. The Neb game he took 8 shots and looked to be a breakout game for him. The other three games or even the last two, he took 5 shots total and has more PF than points. Check out his pts per mins played, not productive, but neither are the other big guys. I hope he can develop a shot.

I’m sure if he was made a free agent tomorrow the majority of our conference would find a ship for him in a heartbeat. He’s going to be a problem in this league as early as next year.

 

[e5fdny]

I don’t see him leaving personally. Can’t rush bigs along.

I think our bigs are better than your description and tough.
Is Luke physical enough?

Pike's philosophy is rebounding and defense - need glass eaters. Looks like Doucore and Nathan are being saved for next year.

Hope he stays and develops. The tools are there (size, agility, strength, shooting ability), and we need bigs. What you see in a 6-9 big man's freshman year is NOT what you will see in his third, fourth or fifth years. Patience is always a virtue, but moreso with PF/C guys in college basketball.

Just imagine where we would be this year without Doorson, who is providing leadership, rebounding, and good defense.

With 3 years left, he has potential to be a serviceable rotation big man in the future. I doubt seriously that he lives up to his 4 star billing, however. It's fine if he stays and it's fine if he goes.

I’m sure if he was made a free agent tomorrow the majority of our conference would find a ship for him in a heartbeat. He’s going to be a problem in this league as early as next year.

Are “big” men in basketball the equivalent of OL where it takes some time to get them going and ready?

 

[Arizona Knight]

Are “big” men in basketball the equivalent of OL where it takes some time to get them going and ready?

100%. The one’s who are good to go as freshman go to the factories, just like football.

 

[Rokodesh]

Maybe I'm naive, but how can he get a medical redshirt if he isn't hurt? Doesn't the school have to produce evidence of the injury?

He had an injury

 

[Mr Magoo]

Because part of building a program is playing and respecting your seniors. It shows recruits that you care about them as well. And Doorson hasn't been awful, he's been really good defensively against some of the other big guys in the Big Ten too.

We can keep throwing players under the bus every 8 seconds.

Has nothing to do with throwing him under he bus. Nor does it mean he shouldn’t play. Of course, I’m not the coach and don’t know as much as Pike but neither do any of us posting their opinions. I would bet most people think Carter and Johnson should play more than Doorson.

Good Recruits also want to see that the best players get the most time. Playing because you are a senior is not as important as playing the best players.

 

[SJScarlet]

Field goal percentages:
Carter: 64%
Doorson: 60%
Johnson: 52%

Doorson has a good 3 inches in height over Carter. Not difficult to see why he plays.

 

[RUChow]

Don't know that much about him from HS, but can't believe he wouldn't be able to contribute what our bigs do now. We need someone who can score maybe 6-10 points around the basket by shooting. None of the rotation indicates they have that ability from what I've seen. Can't even make a contested layup or draw the foul.
Right now all our centers play the same type game.

Practice player.

 

[RUChow]

Every player has a role. Pike is no dummy. Doorson is a big body and a solid rebounder

His value is he can lean on opposing big men, an asset in the Big 10.

 

[RUsince52]

Field goal percentages:
Carter: 64%
Doorson: 60%
Johnson: 52%

Doorson has a good 3 inches in height over Carter. Not difficult to see why he plays.

This is a case of misleading stats. Not disputing the percentages, but given our shooting woes, these guys should be taking a lot more shots. Let them take 10 shots each and see if they can make 5 or 6.
I would hope at least for this season, whoever takes the majority of shots can hit 40%. We don't have enough scorers to make up the difference.

 

[RUChoppin]

Doorson's a solid rebounder and interior defender. He's also very hard to back down given his size, and hard to shoot over.

Johnson's going to be a great player here, but right now he's committing 6.0 fouls per 40 minutes on the court, which has gotten him into foul trouble. That's not unexpected as a freshman. Doorson's a little more cagey and has better control of his hands/arms on defense, which allows him to wall up underneath without getting called for as many fouls. If Johnson could defend like Doorson, he'd be seeing Doorson's minutes.

Carter's been good, and is an efficient player with his minutes, but he's 3 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter than Doorson. That's a very different dynamic when trying to hold position on the blocks or trying to wall up and contest opposing bigs.

I don't think Pike's throwing anyone any bones - the guys who play are the guys he feels are giving us the best shot at wins.

 

[jonS]

Because part of building a program is playing and respecting your seniors. It shows recruits that you care about them as well. And Doorson hasn't been awful, he's been really good defensively against some of the other big guys in the Big Ten too.

We can keep throwing players under the bus every 8 seconds.

Agree. In fact I'd go so far as to say that he's improved more this year compared to last than any other player , including Eugene. In addition, by all accounts he's a very fine ambassador for the program. When you talk about building the right culture for your program , you think of guys like Eugene and Shaq.

 

[RU677381]

I cringe when Doorson is in the game. We have 4 offensive players then. So stiff around the boards. Carter and Myles are much better rebounders to me, and way better offensively.

Perhaps the reason Doorson starts is to give Johnson a feel for the game while not picking up fouls in the process. Pikell has always emphasized that picking a starting five is not important to him.