Edsall soon out?
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"by firing Edsall before his original deal ends Jan. 15, 2017, the school will have to pay him for the remainder of this season and an additional $2.6 million: $2.1 million for next year's salary and that half-million buyout."
Most damning, though, multiple sources said players have begun tuning him out.
"Nobody in the locker room would leave next year because Edsall is fired," one source told IMS. "He doesn't have too many fans left in the locker room."
Interesting:
"Off the field, he'd also earned praise for improving the program's academic standing and avoiding off-field issues -- along with the aforementioned recruiting class next to arrive next year. And for the most part, sources said, the current players like Edsall personally. But he lost their support with his program-wide rigidness -- at times he's taken names off jerseys and banned baseball caps, 'do' rags, untrimmed facial hair and earrings in efforts to stifle selfish individualism -- along with his refusal to play more aggressively and tendency to blame them for losses."
Flood is in much better shape all around. He should be given a multi-year extension!!!!
Most damning, though, multiple sources said players have begun tuning him out.
"Nobody in the locker room would leave next year because Edsall is fired," one source told IMS. "He doesn't have too many fans left in the locker room."
Interesting:
"Off the field, he'd also earned praise for improving the program's academic standing and avoiding off-field issues -- along with the aforementioned recruiting class next to arrive next year. And for the most part, sources said, the current players like Edsall personally. But he lost their support with his program-wide rigidness -- at times he's taken names off jerseys and banned baseball caps, 'do' rags, untrimmed facial hair and earrings in efforts to stifle selfish individualism -- along with his refusal to play more aggressively and tendency to blame them for losses."
Flood is in much better shape all around. He should be given a multi-year extension!!!!
Ugh....we have GOT to make a move...The Twerps are going to hire someone better, as they've got a pledge from their UA guy to make them the next "Oregon"...this is just bad, bad, BAD news for us.
Well competing with Randy has always been relatively easy. Hope they don't get the next hire right.
They they beat us to the punch. I guess we will be the last ones to turn off the light.
I get that your MO is to always spin everything in the best possible way for RU while always keeping the bar set as low as possible. But I'm not sure how or why you think this is good.
Dude. Go do something that makes you happy. You have demonstrated your knack for looking at everything pertaining to Rutgers football in the most negative light. We get it. It is tiresome. And a really poor choice of words.
Did I say it was good? Did you see my other post? I don't see it as good or bad yet. I just is. Julie, what ya got?
I'm surprised by UMd's apparent willingness to pull the rug out from under him mid-season. They had a decent first year in the B1G last season and recruiting seemed to be going well. And this is supposed to be an athletic department with financial problems just about as big as ours has.
RU has done quite well against Edsall so I will miss him if he's gone, LOL. Worse case scenario for us is that UMd might hire Chip Kelly whom I hope never to see again in Rutgers Stadium unless he's there as the head coach or OC of RU.
RU has done quite well against Edsall so I will miss him if he's gone, LOL. Worse case scenario for us is that UMd might hire Chip Kelly whom I hope never to see again in Rutgers Stadium unless he's there as the head coach or OC of RU.
Well, there goes my stock response about Maryland.
A: Do you think Maryland is a threat to Rutgers?
B: Are they still coached by Randy Edsall?
A: Yes
B: Then, no.
A: Do you think Maryland is a threat to Rutgers?
B: Are they still coached by Randy Edsall?
A: Yes
B: Then, no.
Waiting for the posts scolding the board members who penciled in a win against Maryland . . . . .
They have big donors not afraid to make a move when it proves to be beneficial. As well as leadership that understands the value of a "Successful" program vs. middling.
Maryland firing Edsall makes our standards for keeping a coach pretty low.
- please don't tell me what to do and, believe it or not, I'm damn happy!!! Com'on man we've been getting along no need for this!
- there is nothing wrong with my choice of words. It's more than clear what I'm talking about, and is actually a term quite often used, when describing what other school's do when recruiting our state's talent.
I'm fine, I'm ready to tailgate, to get to my seat, and to cheer my team on to victory, so don't worry about my disdain for our current HC'ing situation. I'll be my old chipper self once Bozo is gone (whenever that is...) and, if there is something positive to discuss - like having the nations's top all-around kick returner - I most definitely will do so with as much pride as ANY other poster!
Might as well hop on board, Shift, you'll feel better letting your true emotions out, instead of keeping them bottled up, I know that I do! :smiley:
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How funny, since many posters on this board wanted Schiano fired & Edsall hired back in the day.
Word on the street is Kevin Plank is "all in" (take that FWIW) to get Chip Kelly if (when?) Philly fires him. I've read talk of him being open to offering UA stock options and being willing to work with UMD to go as high as $7 million/year to get him. All message board chatter for now, but we'll see what happens.
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Just to let you know, we are keeping Hasksins.
I may have to check myself into rehab, for numerous things, if they hire Chip Kelly. With all the "speed/athlete" talent available, within 3-hours or so of College Park, this would be a "nightmare" scenario for RU (IMHO).
Yep. Because what 17 year-old kids say on Twitter is ALWAYS the truth.
We don't care. Go away.
That would suck big time, sounds a little like Rich Rod's deal at Arizona where they got a little creative. UA is a great company too and still growing and those options could be worth a lot more over the long haul.
I've never seen Edsall as that good and hiring a recruiter like Locksley didn't help him. I don't think he was a good OC and don't remember him having any track record of that. This is has been one of my points. Don't focus on recruiting so much, focus on guys you think are good coaches that can maximize talent. How'd Hoke do? Butch Jones and his great recruiting in Tenn? I've always said recruiting is a tiered pyramid with the tiers getting wider as you go down. Forget about the actual rank, we're usually going to be in the same tier most of the time regardless of coach. So best to focus on the guy you think has potential to maximize whatever type of players you're realistically going to get year to year.
Regarding Locksley, doesn't Maryland have a top 25 recruiting class coming in next year (well, at this point anyway)? Seems he can at least recruit a little bit, but isn't a great coach.
They did but did it increase his buyout? I'm not sure but I thought it stayed the same?
Their big donor is committed to building the program.
Our big donor is committed to keeping his buddy the head coach.
"by firing Edsall before his original deal ends Jan. 15, 2017, the school will have to pay him for the remainder of this season and an additional $2.6 million: $2.1 million for next year's salary and that half-million buyout."
Maybe I don't even know. Like I've said I don't really follow recruiting. My point is I don't care that much. Recruiting without coaching and development doesn't help and I gave some examples above. Focus on the coaching ability first and the recruiting second especially when it's high level positions of HC or coordinator. The positions coaches are a perfectly fine place to hire top notch recruiters. Coordinators/HC recruiting ability is something to take into account but not my point of emphasis. If you can get both then great but if I have to emphasize one over the other it's the coach ability not the recruiting ability.
So the buyout stayed the same but they have to pay him a year's extra salary. That was kinda dumb on their part. I thought the extension was kind for show and maybe a marginal increase of money owed.
EDIT: It was just a marginal increase of money owed, the 500K. The 2.1M would have been owed anyway as he had 2 years left on his contract at the end of last year. So they would have still owed 2.1M at the end of this year. So they owe an additional 500K.
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I think the major difference is, your players like Flood....opposed to Edsall's players.
that being said, is Flood seriously going to be the coach next year? If not, and with the crap going on there, why in the world haven't they pulled the plug yet?.....no clue. unless, they think they can still go bowling this year with Flood at the helm. gotta go 4-0 against Indiana, Nebraska, Army, and Maryland. not impossible, so we'll see.
good move by Maryland for not even wasting another game on him. look at Illinois.....they're playing much better under their interim coach. but, like Maryland (and unlike Rutgers)...Illinois players hated Beckmen. obviously, Beckmen couldn't get around the crap he was pulling. somehow Flood did.....amazing.
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