Eugene Omoruyi-Eligible in 2016-Commits to Rutgers
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I will say it agian, not for a B1G team. The lack of basketball knowledge on this site is staggering.
Come on. Unless Coach Pike starts handing out cash, cars, chicks and blow, we are not going to get B1G level guys today. We are excited because we couldn't get kids like Eugene the last few years. Eugene will make us better. The kid is obviously smart, and can be coached up. If our staff gets our team to improve as the year goes on, we will start to attract better players. Right now we need to beat the bottom third of the conference. Welcome Eugene.
Why add that statement about the lack of basketball knowledge. Do you know who njhawk is? How about nj4life? I would bet $1000 right now that BKin118 has watched more college basketball games live in an arena than you have and probably every poster here would too.
Yes people here overestimate what he can do we are all Rutgers fans but you refuse to see anything positive as if we are better off putting in Jake Dadika as our emergency power forward. Our biggest weakness this year is depth. He provides depth. Even if he is a MAC level talent he will be useful as the 11th player on the team, 6th off the bench. If you don't see that then your lack of knowledge of how a college basketball team functions is staggering.
Doubleflyer's condensension is epic. He talks down to every fan here like he coached Duke. Funny guy who you have to take with a grain of salt. His crystal ball is way better than mine - lol. I will say this, time will tell this story and he may be right but not because he is omnipotent but just lucky.
Dearest Doubleflyer: Though we don't know anything about one another, I--someone who considers himself to have a lot of basketball knowledge, a-hole--have come to three possible conclusions:
(Remember my comment was about a great pickup for this team at this time, not that it puts in contention for The Dance.)SO:
1) You know better and are yanking our collective chains;
2) You know basketball but are blinded by arrogance, defeatism or Rutgers-hate;
3) You think you know basketball but DO NOT KNOW SHT.
(Remember my comment was about a great pickup for this team at this time, not that it puts in contention for The Dance.)SO:
1) You know better and are yanking our collective chains;
2) You know basketball but are blinded by arrogance, defeatism or Rutgers-hate;
3) You think you know basketball but DO NOT KNOW SHT.
Brain damage.. get it checked out bro. I worry you may pass it on to your offspring...more importantly, I worry that you'll have offspring.
You don't know what will happen because you can't tell the future. You can't tell the difference having a real s+C program will have on the kids we already have. You can't tell what effect having a real coach with have on our kids or the commits coming in. In other words..you don't know shit bro.
I think I know where @doubleflyer 's sentiments are coming from.
In my exchanges with Richie, I told him that in my limited viewings, I think the Canadian kid is a project at the B1G level. Power forward skills but small forward size. Should probably go MM.
But he is very competitive and could play the role of a "power wing" in some sets. He'll also provide much needed depth and will push guys in practice. He is not particularly long but has a nose for the ball and isn't afraid of contact. The important thing is that the coaching staff sees something in this kid that they like and that they think they can develop.
I wouldn't expect much from him this season but it will be interesting to see how he develops over four years.
In my exchanges with Richie, I told him that in my limited viewings, I think the Canadian kid is a project at the B1G level. Power forward skills but small forward size. Should probably go MM.
But he is very competitive and could play the role of a "power wing" in some sets. He'll also provide much needed depth and will push guys in practice. He is not particularly long but has a nose for the ball and isn't afraid of contact. The important thing is that the coaching staff sees something in this kid that they like and that they think they can develop.
I wouldn't expect much from him this season but it will be interesting to see how he develops over four years.
Wow, finally a post worth reading. Seems like a number of people just want to be into a pissing contest with anyone who is not looking at everything this team/staff does with their rose colored glasses.
Reality: No one can be sure of what this kid will be doin gfor the team this year. Be certain that superstars are not being signed in August who had offers from Loyola, possibly Marquette, and a look from Texas. Pikiel has said he he's always looking for under the radar kids and this kid sounds exactly like this. Obviously, the coaches see something in him and they think he can blossom with their coaching. They're not just filling out a roster spot.
But making us a .500 team? Come on. If he's more than the last kid on the scholarship bench in November (even in February) and making significant contributions in the OOC season we should all be surprised. Think of all the players on the roster he'll be passing for playing time.
Let's just stick with "He's got enough potential to make an impact during his 4 years here." Re-read all the posts that proclaim him a GREAT pickup. Can we ban all the negative posts from those people when he's not making double-doubles before the season is over.
I hope he does turn out to be better than the other players at the 3-4 on the roster. That WILL be quite a coup. But there are so many other players on this team that will determine whether we;re a .500 team. It's a disservice to them.
And just because somebody doesn't toe the line, and maybe is more pessimistic than we all think he should be about a particular signing he doesn't deserve the vitriolic commentary.
I guess I'm a troll, too
Reality: No one can be sure of what this kid will be doin gfor the team this year. Be certain that superstars are not being signed in August who had offers from Loyola, possibly Marquette, and a look from Texas. Pikiel has said he he's always looking for under the radar kids and this kid sounds exactly like this. Obviously, the coaches see something in him and they think he can blossom with their coaching. They're not just filling out a roster spot.
But making us a .500 team? Come on. If he's more than the last kid on the scholarship bench in November (even in February) and making significant contributions in the OOC season we should all be surprised. Think of all the players on the roster he'll be passing for playing time.
Let's just stick with "He's got enough potential to make an impact during his 4 years here." Re-read all the posts that proclaim him a GREAT pickup. Can we ban all the negative posts from those people when he's not making double-doubles before the season is over.
I hope he does turn out to be better than the other players at the 3-4 on the roster. That WILL be quite a coup. But there are so many other players on this team that will determine whether we;re a .500 team. It's a disservice to them.
And just because somebody doesn't toe the line, and maybe is more pessimistic than we all think he should be about a particular signing he doesn't deserve the vitriolic commentary.
I guess I'm a troll, too
A kid who comes in to an under-manned roster in August and who, IMO, opinion will get minutes in his freshman year, provide depth in case of injury, and shows every possibility over his Rutgers career is a great pickup given where we are now.
I he gonna turn this mess around. Maybe he'll be able to turn a couple of close losses into close wins.
What you say is what you'd be surprised by, Pritz, is what I expect.
I he gonna turn this mess around. Maybe he'll be able to turn a couple of close losses into close wins.
What you say is what you'd be surprised by, Pritz, is what I expect.
I'm the guy who said he'll help us to .500. I also said he'll be the fourth or fifth guy off the bench. Why doesn't anyone understand how important it was for us to have that 11th person on the team?
He looks like a nice August pickup with some upside. That being said, we have a new coach, lack depth, and are very weak and unproven down low. A .500 season is dreamland and Pikiell should be coach of the year if it happens.
We seem to be on the right track and I'm just looking for improvement, better recruiting/player development and some excitement back to the RAC this season.
We seem to be on the right track and I'm just looking for improvement, better recruiting/player development and some excitement back to the RAC this season.
runroyrun -- I sincerely hope you're right. I'll be rooting.
seals -- When was the last time the 11th guy made a difference? On anybody's team? (He wuoldn't be the 11th guy for long.) When does the 11th guy even see any playing time? I just don't see it happening.
seals -- When was the last time the 11th guy made a difference? On anybody's team? (He wuoldn't be the 11th guy for long.) When does the 11th guy even see any playing time? I just don't see it happening.
doubleflyer appears to be someone who was a Jordan or a Hurley guy. He comments that "this coach" won't get us to .500 in three years.
Omoruyi looks like he could develop into a pretty good ballplayer, and will give us much needed help this year.
The question about how we develop now rests with the coaching staff. The team is there now. What will they do with them? What will we look like? I see strength in the coaching staff up and down the line and think we will be a much better looking ball club this year than in the past four. Whether this will translate to .500 this year is anybody's guess. But to say we will get there or not for certain seems a bit silly right now.
Omoruyi looks like he could develop into a pretty good ballplayer, and will give us much needed help this year.
The question about how we develop now rests with the coaching staff. The team is there now. What will they do with them? What will we look like? I see strength in the coaching staff up and down the line and think we will be a much better looking ball club this year than in the past four. Whether this will translate to .500 this year is anybody's guess. But to say we will get there or not for certain seems a bit silly right now.
The 11th guy sees playing time because when someone sprains an ankle or we get a couple of people in foul trouble we have someone on the bench who can play. With 10 players we still have the talent to be .500-if we got real real lucky with injuries. Now with Omoruyi who has flexibility with positions we don't have to be as lucky. Every year we play short handed and every year the team is burnt out at the end of the season. Not this year.
Last year Duke had the most talent in the ACC and was defending champions yet they were 11-7 in league and at one point dropped out of the top 25 for the first time in forever. Lack of depth and the injury bug were the culprits.
A big point being missed is picking Up another forward may allow Sa to play center instead of the PF if that allows us a means to getting the best five in the court
Actually...more I think about it the more i definately see it playing out that way
I see Laurent and Freeman getting 27 mpg at the three and four spots and Omuruyi, bullock and thiam fighting it out to play the other 26 mpg
That leaves sa at center with doorson and Diallo to man the five soot and we still don't what we have their in health. Bet piekell is worried about injury recovery there if he tried to get the other kid
It's about depth and versatility
Actually...more I think about it the more i definately see it playing out that way
I see Laurent and Freeman getting 27 mpg at the three and four spots and Omuruyi, bullock and thiam fighting it out to play the other 26 mpg
That leaves sa at center with doorson and Diallo to man the five soot and we still don't what we have their in health. Bet piekell is worried about injury recovery there if he tried to get the other kid
It's about depth and versatility
The 11th guy on the bench does not get us to .500. That is crazy most programs only play 8 guys, 9 at most. The hyperbole is what I am responding to, great get getting us to .500 that is simply over the top for a guy who is likely a mid major star, solid A-10 player and end of the bench in the B1G. Next year is the class we should look at but there is nothing to get excited about here.
For those wondering Jordan was a joke but Hurley would have been light years better higher than Pikiell. The idea that we had to hire a guy who was less than stellar at Stony Brook is concerning. Not exactly exciting hire but in the end next years class will start to tell the story of whether he is a good hirer or not.
For those wondering Jordan was a joke but Hurley would have been light years better higher than Pikiell. The idea that we had to hire a guy who was less than stellar at Stony Brook is concerning. Not exactly exciting hire but in the end next years class will start to tell the story of whether he is a good hirer or not.
I believe Pikiell was a much better hire than Hurley. What has Hurley done so far at Rhode Island? He coached Biruta in his 4th and 5th years and got no better results out of him than RU did in his first two years and playing against much tougher teams. Hurley also lied to Biruta. He told him he would get to play away from the basket and would shoot threes. That never happened as he played close to the basket the same as he did at RU. Hurley is a decent coach but he has a real temper and just like Rice he screams and uses a lot of foul language. We shall see what Hurley does this year. They are supposed to be really good this coming year. Pikiell's team is picked last by most people. He is not expected to win a ton of games this season. He inherited very little but again I say we shall see. I think RU will improve over these next few seasons under Pikiell. Rome was not built in a day. Danny boy most likely pulled out of the RU job search because he knew he couldn't get the job done. Pikiell is willing to take on the task and has confidence in himself and his staff.
doubleflyer -- while we're in general agreement with the Eugene signing, The Pikiel/Hurley debate has reached its "wait and see" stage. The thing that made me scratch my head with Hurley was the demand for the 7-year contract. If he felt he couldn't get it done (or at least on the way) in 4-5 years, than he wasn't getting it done. With B1G money coming in, a succesful/on-the-verge BB coach would be able to name his price @year 3-4-5. Or go to a destination job. Other drawbacks have been noted ad nauseum.
Pikiel: while I expected a bigger splash on player signings, at least the assistants hirings have been seemingly top-notch. But I think the quality of future recruiting is dependent on what the team shows on the court, now. We can only wait to see the results of that. But saying his record at SB was "less than stellar" sells him short a bit (and we didn't have AAA choices knocking down our door). The NCAAs for Stoney Brook? Not shabby.
Pikiel: while I expected a bigger splash on player signings, at least the assistants hirings have been seemingly top-notch. But I think the quality of future recruiting is dependent on what the team shows on the court, now. We can only wait to see the results of that. But saying his record at SB was "less than stellar" sells him short a bit (and we didn't have AAA choices knocking down our door). The NCAAs for Stoney Brook? Not shabby.
Pikiell did every bit and more at Stony Brook that Danny did at Wagner. Danny has a five year head start at a program with a pulse. And can coach. Both guys can dribble two basketballs at once.
I love my first look at Pikiell. He's got a shot to be good.
I love my first look at Pikiell. He's got a shot to be good.
I agree with you about one thing--you don't know shit. By all accounts Pikiell has been a terrific hire --you can see it in his recruiting efforts and more importantly , in the assistant coaches he has hired. Guys like Knight and Hobbs seek future head coaching jobs and had other job opportunities besides Rutgers. Do you think they would sign on with Pikiell if they didn't believe he could turn Rutgers around and make it a success?
The truth comes out...this doubleflyer clown is a Hurley lover so he just comes here to bash every move Pikiell makes. Saying Pikiell was less than stellar at SB is just stupid and confirms his bias. SB to the NCAAs is stellar.
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Looks like a very solid recruit this time of year. If he's coachable, then he should be a multi-year contributor with this staff.
Oh, for the good ol' days of late roster add-ons ...
http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2009/09/rutgers_basketball_lands_62_gu.html
Oh, for the good ol' days of late roster add-ons ...
http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2009/09/rutgers_basketball_lands_62_gu.html
Lol. Double doubles?It is a signing, so it is talked about more than players already on the team.
I hear you,though.I hope he is an impact player in his four years here.This year, I see him adding grit to our team. Maybe 3 points and 3 rebound a game.Grit cannot be measured, but is extremely important.
I made a thread for Bk.Doorson and Diallo are both hundred percent, and have been practicing at full contact for a while now.
I am with you as far as those lineups. People were very high on Doorson though the year he played.
Excellent rational response to my Hurley comments. As for the Stony Brook record it took him 10 years to get to the tournament and he lost many big games along the way when they could have gotten to the tournament. In game coaching is a concern but certainly better than Jordan. Wait and see is accurate description of where we are which is the opposite of what the pom pom shakers in this thread are doing. The reality is that we had to hire a guy who had moderate success at a low major school, that does not make me feel comfortable and nothing that has been done to date has changed my reaction to the hire. Hopefully we improve this year and the recruits start coming.
so a coach in one of the worst conferences in the nation winning his conference tournament once in 10 years is stellar? Tim Cluess getting an at large from the MAAC was stellar. Pikiell's performance was nothing to get excited about. I hope he works out but the idea that his tenure at Stony Brook in any way showed he could succeed in the B1G at a program that is short on facilities and reputation makes no sense to me.
So now that we've established that 2flyer is part of Team Hurley, we can put all other comments in the proper context. Pikiell, btw, took a team not in division I when he started to three NITs and one NCAA in ten years. Danny has never been to the big dance (that would be 0 times) and has been to the NIT exactly once. His record at URI is 62-64 over five years. This with the Hurley aura and massive pipeline to recruiting NJ.
Very glad we didn't stub our toes with a Hurley hire.
Very glad we didn't stub our toes with a Hurley hire.
I put my comments up on Hurley yesterday. I figured at that time that flyer was a Hurley guy. Hurley knew he couldn't get the job done at RU so he stayed at RI. I'm glad we didn't hire him with his temper and foul language. The media would have taken RU over the coals. We don't need that. Pikiell seems even keeled and hired very good assistants.
This is not about Hurley, it is about hiring a guy who has not done shit to prove he is B1G material and is doing nothing to change that with these mid major all star recruits.
